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US Government Patents Medical Pot
    #8593721 - 07/04/08 12:59 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

http://blog.norml.org/2008/07/03/us-government-patents-medical-pot/
US Government Patents Medical Pot
Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:49:51  By: Paul Armentano, NORML Deputy Director
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The extent of the federal government’s hypocrisy on the issue of medicinal cannabis truly knows no bounds. Don’t believe me? Just click here


    US Patent 6630507 - Cannabinoids as antioxidants and neuroprotectants

    Application: filed on 2/02/2001

    US Patent Issued on October 7, 2003

    Assignee: The United States of America, as represented by the Department of Health and Human Services 

And there you have it. The same federal government that steadfastly denies pot has any medicinal value also holds the medical patents on the plant’s various therapeutic cannabinoids. And they aren’t the only ones who do.

NORML podcaster Russ Belville and I will be discussing this issue in depth — as well as the related issue of whether or not Big Pharma is behind the prohibition of pot — on the Daily Audio Stash next week.

Stay tuned.


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Re: US Government Patents Medical Pot [Re: pabloescabar]
    #8593752 - 07/04/08 01:17 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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And there you have it. The same federal government that steadfastly denies pot has any medicinal value also holds the medical patents on the plant’s various therapeutic cannabinoids. And they aren’t the only ones who do.






No they don't, and do you have a source for the government claiming pot has no medical benifits?  They're certainly wrong if they say so, I'd just no heard them say this.


They've patented certain applications of certain canabinoids.  They've not patented marijuana or even marijuana's use.

While its possible that some of the claimed canabinoids could be naturally occuring in marijuana, no body has shown this to be the case, and I think it would still fail if tried to be applied to a plant or plant-derived extract.

You can't patent a natural organism, and I doubt you can use a patent on a naturally occuring substance to prevent sales of extracts or preperations of natural stuff.  Nonetheless, the onus is on you to prove this can be done, if your claiming that, so I won't worry about it.


And this is old stuff and probably shoudln't be in the news section.  Maybe ask veggie to move to science and tech?

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Re: US Government Patents Medical Pot [Re: johnm214]
    #8593774 - 07/04/08 01:32 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Schedule I drugs

Findings required:

    (A) The drug or other substance has high potential for abuse.
    (B) The drug or other substance has no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States.
    (C) There is a lack of accepted safety for use of the drug or other substance under medical supervision.

That includes cannabis, unfortunately.

Probably what he was referring to.


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Re: US Government Patents Medical Pot [Re: johnm214]
    #8593786 - 07/04/08 01:39 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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johnm214 said:
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And there you have it. The same federal government that steadfastly denies pot has any medicinal value also holds the medical patents on the plant’s various therapeutic cannabinoids. And they aren’t the only ones who do.






No they don't, and do you have a source for the government claiming pot has no medical benifits?  They're certainly wrong if they say so, I'd just no heard them say this.


They've patented certain applications of certain canabinoids.  They've not patented marijuana or even marijuana's use.

While its possible that some of the claimed canabinoids could be naturally occuring in marijuana, no body has shown this to be the case, and I think it would still fail if tried to be applied to a plant or plant-derived extract.

You can't patent a natural organism, and I doubt you can use a patent on a naturally occuring substance to prevent sales of extracts or preperations of natural stuff.  Nonetheless, the onus is on you to prove this can be done, if your claiming that, so I won't worry about it.


And this is old stuff and probably shoudln't be in the news section.  Maybe ask veggie to move to science and tech?



Just Posted the article word for word, I don't have to prove anything, email the guy that wrote it if you really must know


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Re: US Government Patents Medical Pot [Re: johnm214]
    #8593885 - 07/04/08 02:42 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

there was an article where the pigs said they wont declare marijuana a medicine 'just because it makes you feel better' but i didnt save it

morphine heroin and aspirin are medicines that only make you feel better so theres the hypocrisy of that

ofcourse they want to own it all,lucky the weed plant is hardy


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Re: US Government Patents Medical Pot [Re: pabloescabar]
    #8593931 - 07/04/08 03:12 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

ok, I thought this was your analysis.

The patent seems to not cover any common uses of marijuana.


I would also think that the patent couldn't be used to prevent natural medicines from being used, but don't know.  It would make no sense to exclude naturally-occuring organisms from patent but then allow the components to be patented in such a way that allows someone to de facto control the organisms sales and use.

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Re: US Government Patents Medical Pot [Re: johnm214]
    #8594221 - 07/04/08 07:46 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

It might make no sense, but a lot of fucked up stuff is happening with patent laws.
Companies have been buying up patents for all kinds of naturally occurring genes and genetic code.  What percentage of the human genome is now owned by corporations?  I forget, but its something significant.


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Re: US Government Patents Medical Pot [Re: DragonChaser]
    #8594510 - 07/04/08 11:01 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Why is this becoming important now?  The patent was issued in Oct 2003, about 5 years ago.  This should have been mentioned in that letter sent to the DEA head honcho a few months back.  Anyone heard what happened with that letter?  Basically it asked the DEA to consider the science and think more about accepting their own ALJ's decisions.


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Re: US Government Patents Medical Pot [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #8595383 - 07/04/08 03:55 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I do remember that letter, and I'm not sure why this wasn't mentioned.


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