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AstroCat505
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Ideal incubation temp?
#8593428 - 07/03/08 11:20 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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What would the ideal temperature for an incubator be? Or better yet, is 92 degrees to warm for incubation of my colonizing birdseed?
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Re: Ideal incubation temp? [Re: AstroCat505]
#8593437 - 07/03/08 11:23 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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92 degrees is detrimental. 80 max. Room temp is preferred nowadays.
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Re: Ideal incubation temp? [Re: HoleSnype]
#8593489 - 07/03/08 11:40 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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I just throw my spawn in a box and put it in the corner.
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AstroCat505
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I would like to know the highest possible temp to support the fastest colonization.
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Re: Ideal incubation temp? [Re: AstroCat505]
#8593546 - 07/03/08 11:55 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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I would say 80, because the bags generate their own heat. Like I said, you just increase the risk of contams during incubation, for a day or two faster colonization time.
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Re: Ideal incubation temp? [Re: HoleSnype]
#8593549 - 07/03/08 11:55 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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I wouldn't even bother making an incubator. If the temp gets past low-mid 80s it might slow down colonization. Above 86 can stall or kill myc. The mycellium generates heat as it grows, so the jar can be my incubator.
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Re: Ideal incubation temp? [Re: ray40cal]
#8593567 - 07/04/08 12:00 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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as long as your houses temp doesn't drop below 70, just incubate at room temp. Higher temps slow down growth and promote contaminant growth.
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Re: Ideal incubation temp? [Re: ray40cal]
#8593573 - 07/04/08 12:01 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Aight, appreciate the heads up guys.
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Re: Ideal incubation temp? [Re: ray40cal]
#8593578 - 07/04/08 12:02 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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you should try to keep it at a constant temperature, whatever that may be, degree fluctuations could stress the myc
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Re: Ideal incubation temp? [Re: AstroCat505]
#8593580 - 07/04/08 12:03 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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86 degrees is optimal, anymore inhibits colonization. you can get away with lower with minimal inhibition of colonization
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Re: Ideal incubation temp? [Re: Shroomsbrrr]
#8593589 - 07/04/08 12:05 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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ugh, 8s deg is NOT optimal. Your core temps in your substrate jar are 2-4 degrees warmer then ambient temps. 86 would put your jars inner temps close to the 90's which promotes anaerobic activity.
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degree fluctuations could stress the myc
no they wont. The worse that could happen is having your jars be too cool and stall.
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Re: Ideal incubation temp? [Re: Shroomsbrrr]
#8593591 - 07/04/08 12:07 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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86 degrees is ok? I mean in my early experiments with shroom cultivation I remember vaguely that my PF cakes were colonizing at record speeds at mid 80s temp.
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Re: Ideal incubation temp? [Re: AstroCat505]
#8593596 - 07/04/08 12:08 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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no, read my above post, 86 degrees is way too warm.
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Re: Ideal incubation temp? [Re: AstroCat505]
#8593597 - 07/04/08 12:08 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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86 is too HIGH. Your bags will generate their own heat, as previously mentioned 2X in this thread. Don't incubate. If you insist on it, do NOT go above 80, MAX.
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Re: Ideal incubation temp? [Re: coda]
#8593599 - 07/04/08 12:08 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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coda said: ugh, 8s deg is NOT optimal. Your core temps in your substrate jar are 2-4 degrees warmer then ambient temps. 86 would put your jars inner temps close to the 90's which promotes anaerobic activity.
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degree fluctuations could stress the myc
no they wont. The worse that could happen is having your jars be too cool and stall.
i only base that on my own results, with a constant temp i can get 8 day colonization, ive had unprotected jars from the same batch take twice as long
Edited by xenophobe (07/04/08 12:09 AM)
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Re: Ideal incubation temp? [Re: xenophobe]
#8593601 - 07/04/08 12:09 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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8 day colonization from MS innoc or LC?
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Re: Ideal incubation temp? [Re: coda]
#8593604 - 07/04/08 12:09 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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No freaking way from MS.....
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Re: Ideal incubation temp? [Re: coda]
#8593608 - 07/04/08 12:10 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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coda said: 8 day colonization from MS innoc or LC?
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Re: Ideal incubation temp? [Re: xenophobe]
#8593629 - 07/04/08 12:18 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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ok, that's different then If you would have said MS i was prepared to call you a liar lol.
8 day colonization with LC is pretty normal IMO. Slight temperature fluctuations will not harm your grow. However, dropping down below 70 will slow, if not stall, your growth.
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Re: Ideal incubation temp? [Re: coda]
#8593719 - 07/04/08 12:58 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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86 is "ideal" (still to warm IMO) temp for the substrate/spawn. NOT THE INCUBATING TEMP. i try to stay 80-84*F. the size of ur containers is also going to matter, if ur using large bags then they will produce more of their own heat compared to a half pint jar.
there is no right answer to this. different genetics will respond to temps differently. i did a side by side with 2 isolates. 1 was O.I. and 1 was K.S. i had 1 jar of each sitting in room temp and 1 jar of each sitting at 80. the O.I. beat the K.S. at 80* by 6 days. on the other hand my K.S. won at room temp by a few days.
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AstroCat505
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Re: Ideal incubation temp? [Re: striker]
#8593781 - 07/04/08 01:38 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well, with a little adjustment the temp inside my dark box is holding at 82*, I don't think that I could go wrong at this temp
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Re: Ideal incubation temp? [Re: AstroCat505]
#8593819 - 07/04/08 02:09 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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you're still two degrees off. If you went that route you don't want internal temps increasing past 84. Incubators are a waste of time and money unless your house is freezing.
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Re: Ideal incubation temp? [Re: coda]
#8593829 - 07/04/08 02:15 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well my room temp is usually 73 to 75 and that is low for colonization so my incubator consists of an opaque plastic box covered by a piece of foil sitting at the bottom of my closet, the price I paid for it is outrageous amount of $0. The remote temp probe I am monitoring it with reads 81.6*. If this causes total failure then I guess that I you can tell me "I told you so...". PEACE
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coda
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Re: Ideal incubation temp? [Re: AstroCat505]
#8593843 - 07/04/08 02:20 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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im interested to find out how the temp of your incubator is almost 7 degrees higher then ambient temps in the room with no additional heat source.
73-75 is perfect temps to colonize jars, don't know why you think that's too low.
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Re: Ideal incubation temp? [Re: coda]
#8593855 - 07/04/08 02:26 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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All that I can guess is that since the closet door is closed and the immediate space in the closet gets no action from the fans or AC. Plus being in the plastic box is just another form of insulation, and if mycelial growth produces heat like you preach then perhaps the temp probe that is inside the box is registering the sum of room temp, closet space variable, and colonization heat together...
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coda
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Re: Ideal incubation temp? [Re: AstroCat505]
#8593888 - 07/04/08 02:44 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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yah, i thought about that too. But the thing is the core temp is usually only 2-4 degrees higher then the ambient temps. So at best you'd see things in the high 70's. It's possible the temp in your closet may be higher then the temp in the outside room.
You'll be ok though, 81.6 is an acceptable temp for your incubator. Just keep an eye on your jars and watch out for any funky smells.
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