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KingOftheThing
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Fox News is FUCKING CRAZY
#8589926 - 07/02/08 11:53 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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they are just straight propaganda, nothing more. even if rightwing hicks want to say cnn is left biased, they dont do crazy shit like fox. video at link
http://mediamatters.org/items/200807020002
Fox News airs altered photos of NY Times reporters

 Summary: During a segment in which Fox & Friends co-hosts Steve Doocy and Brian Kilmeade labeled New York Times reporter Jacques Steinberg and editor Steven Reddicliffe "attack dogs," Fox News featured photos of Steinberg and Reddicliffe that appeared to have been digitally altered -- the journalists' teeth had been yellowed, their facial features exaggerated, and portions of Reddicliffe's hair moved further back on his head.
On the July 2 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends, co-hosts Steve Doocy and Brian Kilmeade labeled New York Times reporter Jacques Steinberg and editor Steven Reddicliffe "attack dogs," claiming that Steinberg's June 28 article on the "ominous trend" in Fox News' ratings was a "hit piece." During the segment, however, Fox News featured photos of Steinberg and Reddicliffe that appeared to have been digitally altered -- the journalists' teeth had been yellowed, their facial features exaggerated, and portions of Reddicliffe's hair moved further back on his head. Fox News gave no indication that the photos had been altered.
After putting up the photos of Steinberg and Reddicliffe, Fox & Friends also featured a photograph of Steinberg's face superimposed over that of a poodle, while Reddicliffe's face was superimposed over that of the man holding the poodle's leash.
Below is a screenshot of Fox & Friends featuring the photo it used of Steinberg, with the original photo on its left. Comparing the two photos, it appears that the following changes have been made: Steinberg's teeth have been yellowed, his nose and chin widened, and his ears made to protrude further.
Similarly, a comparison of the photo of Reddicliffe used by Fox News and the original photo suggests that Reddicliffe's teeth have been yellowed, dark circles have been added under his eyes, and his hairline has been moved back.
From the July 2 edition of Fox & Friends:
DOOCY: And before we go today, something's been bugging me. A couple of days --
KILMEADE: Well, go back outside.
DOOCY: We will. A couple of days ago, when most newspapers in America were doing these positive stories about how Fox News Channel, once again, number one --
KILMEADE: Like the LA Times.
DOOCY: -- for many, many years. There was a hit piece by somebody in The New York Times. The writer was a fellow by the name of Jacques Steinberg, and he's been doing a bunch of attack stories on Fox News Channel. Well, there's some backstory to it, and that is this: His boss, the guy who assigned him to this, is a fellow by the name of Steven Reddicliffe, and Mr. Reddicliffe actually used to work for this company. He worked -- I think he was the editor in charge of TV Guide until circulation went down under his tenure --
KILMEADE: Right.
DOOCY: -- something like, 40 percent. So, he got fired, and according to Radar Online, this guy has had an ax to grind.
KILMEADE: Yeah, he does, because, I think, Steve, according to reports -- according to Radar and another online magazine -- he was making close to a million dollars here, and now with his new job --
DOOCY: Yeah.
KILMEADE: -- he's making significantly less. How about a tenth of that?
DOOCY: So, anyway, Radar says he's had an ax to grind, and that's why he sends his attack dog Jacques Steinberg out -- that fellow right there, the writer for The New York Times -- to do these hit pieces. So, he essentially is his attack dog. His -- his poodle, if you will.
KILMEADE: So --
DOOCY: Oooh! Very, very nice.
KILMEADE: -- Radar Online has unlocked the mystery. And there you go, because that story was oddly in the Arts section of The New York Times, in the Sunday Times.
DOOCY: Anyway, we just thought we'd -- cute. I wonder if he's going to show him at Westminster this year.
KILMEADE: I'm not really sure. We know a beagle won last year, and this -- he's dressed as a poodle. ____________
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that was retarded.
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Not suprised.
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Re: Fox News is FUCKING CRAZY [Re: dill705]
#8590482 - 07/03/08 04:31 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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FOX News successfully argued in court that it was not a news program, but an entertainment program. If you stop looking at it as news, it can become rather funny. Especially when the lefties get their panties in a wad over some childish satire.
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An outrage to be sure. I've never seen any of the lefties distort George Bush's picture before. 
I seem to recall a certain other news organization that was busted altering war photos, a New York newspaper manipulating photos of a candidate for Governor of Virginia, USA Today tampered with a photo of Condoleezza Rice, and CBS even did it with Katie Couric to make her look thinner. There was another I read about just a couple of weeks ago that was done by some alternative news website over pics of some Jewish leader who apparently didn't look Jewish enough for them. I'm sure there are more I'm forgetting.
So tell me, which is more egregious - the one who was obviously engaging in satire, or the one who tried to make people believe it was real?
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Re: Fox News is FUCKING CRAZY [Re: Seuss]
#8590902 - 07/03/08 09:09 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Seuss said: FOX News successfully argued in court that it was not a news program, but an entertainment program.
Then why do they still call themselves Fox News? And why are they run by News Corporation?
If they were clear satire, that would be one thing. But I know for a fact that people get their news from Fox. This is why everytime I go visit my relatives I have to sit down and explain to them that arresting 18 year olds for pot possesion is not "fighting terrorism," because they "learned" on Fox news that terrorists fund their organizations by selling pot.
Fox, the channel that uses archived footage that is over 15 years old of Arabs burning american flags everytime something happens in the Middle East. That isn't satire, that is dangerous and inflammatory misrepresentations of reality.
The best thing I can imagine is every vestige of Fox being systematically dismantled. Granted, the same goes for many other media outlets, but Fox takes the cake.
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lonestar2004
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Quote:
HagbardCeline said:
which is more egregious - the one who was obviously engaging in satire, or the one who tried to make people believe it was real?
exactly.
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Re: Fox News is FUCKING CRAZY [Re: lonestar2004]
#8590993 - 07/03/08 09:49 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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I loved the whole Michelle Malkin (such an insidious name, amirite?), with the video of that USMC Moriarty chap tossing a puppy off a cliff. She, rather than being factual, she took up the torch of counter-propaganda, and insisted the video was fake.
What lies would they be willing to tell after a real atrocity (which we'll likely never hear from them about anyway), rather than simple animal cruelty?
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Re: Fox News is FUCKING CRAZY [Re: Minstrel]
#8591203 - 07/03/08 11:12 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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That isn't satire, that is dangerous and inflammatory misrepresentations of reality.
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Seuss
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Re: Fox News is FUCKING CRAZY [Re: SoY]
#8591259 - 07/03/08 11:29 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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> So tell me, which is more egregious - the one who was obviously engaging in satire, or the one who tried to make people believe it was real?
Such as the NY Times. I agree, completely. I find it rather funny how FOX "News" parodies "objective journalism", such as what the NY Times puts out. At one time, I thought it was really annoying, but once I realized that FOX News considers itself entertainment rather than journalism, it all kind of made sense.
> Then why do they still call themselves Fox News? And why are they run by News Corporation?
I suspect they call themselves FOX News because of the irony. News Corporation is the name of a company and encompasses much more than FOX News.
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riceandpeas
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Re: Fox News is FUCKING CRAZY [Re: Seuss]
#8591437 - 07/03/08 12:49 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Seuss said: > So tell me, which is more egregious - the one who was obviously engaging in satire, or the one who tried to make people believe it was real?
Such as the NY Times. I agree, completely. I find it rather funny how FOX "News" parodies "objective journalism", such as what the NY Times puts out. At one time, I thought it was really annoying, but once I realized that FOX News considers itself entertainment rather than journalism, it all kind of made sense.
> Then why do they still call themselves Fox News? And why are they run by News Corporation?
I suspect they call themselves FOX News because of the irony. News Corporation is the name of a company and encompasses much more than FOX News.
Do you have a link to this case where Fox claimed they weren't a news channel?
It's a ridiculous argument anyway as any news show can also call itself entertainment, that's why you have good looking broadcasters and nice studios.
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Before Fox News, my life had no direction. After I discovered it I began watching it regularly and became a fanatic neocon. I joined the crusader church in my area and we meet regularly to plan world domination.
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Re: Fox News is FUCKING CRAZY [Re: riceandpeas]
#8591769 - 07/03/08 02:39 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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riceandpeas said:
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Seuss said: > So tell me, which is more egregious - the one who was obviously engaging in satire, or the one who tried to make people believe it was real?
Such as the NY Times. I agree, completely. I find it rather funny how FOX "News" parodies "objective journalism", such as what the NY Times puts out. At one time, I thought it was really annoying, but once I realized that FOX News considers itself entertainment rather than journalism, it all kind of made sense.
> Then why do they still call themselves Fox News? And why are they run by News Corporation?
I suspect they call themselves FOX News because of the irony. News Corporation is the name of a company and encompasses much more than FOX News.
Do you have a link to this case where Fox claimed they weren't a news channel?
It's a ridiculous argument anyway as any news show can also call itself entertainment, that's why you have good looking broadcasters and nice studios.
Yes, I'm curious myself. Like all of the news shows and the newspapers there is a reporting part and an opinion part. The only time there is a problem is when there is a confusion between the two.
As to KOTT's high dudgeon over Fox and Friends (NOT a primarily news show any more than Today with Katie "the Commie" Couric) skewering a couple of NY Times douches who were mean to them, feh, who gives a fuck. Is one of them KOTT's lover? Why would he possibly give a fuck?
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hahaha
fox news is awesome
on 9/11 I obviously.. like all other americans.. was watching the news the whole fucking day
fox news at one point had a graphic behind their talking heads that was simply the words
"WHAT'S GOING ON!?!?"
from that day forward, they were awesome
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Re: Fox News is FUCKING CRAZY [Re: Mushmonkey]
#8595748 - 07/04/08 06:52 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Fox is pretty childish this sure takes the cake though. I never thought I'd see them intentionally skewing pictures to make people look that much worse than in reality (with the exception of Hanity and Colmes). Steinberg looks like an ogre or something and Reddicliffe's forehead is so skewed and doctored it doesn't even look natural. I've gota wonder how the average fox viewer took this one.
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Oh yeah, I saw that article. Fox News certainly is the worst of the worst, and they seem to have outdone themselves this time.
Imagine the kind of person who must watch Fox News. They see that on TV and don't know its doctored. It says a lot about them.
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Re: Fox News is FUCKING CRAZY [Re: HippyInASuit]
#8596052 - 07/04/08 09:32 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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I don't think anyone could really see those and not think they were shopped. Seriously. Unless it was 11 am and they already had a case of beer under their belt
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Re: Fox News is FUCKING CRAZY [Re: Mushmonkey]
#8596091 - 07/04/08 09:55 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Fox News is FUCKING CRAZY
Yes. They are nothing more than the propaganda arm of the RNC. It is the LAST place I would turn to if I wanted to get unbiased account of the news. Actually most of the MSM has a pro-republican slant to it...despite the fact that republicans whine about the media being 'liberal'.
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Re: Fox News is FUCKING CRAZY [Re: Libertine]
#8596129 - 07/04/08 10:18 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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lolwut
you're silly. you big silly you.
the MSM is right-wing, that's a good one. you forgot the APRIL FOOL'S!
HAY I've got an idea, go over the past 30 years of reports on gun control and count the number of times semi-automatic firearms are referred to as machine guns or assault weapons or 'the type of gun that you pull the trigger and it goes bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap-bap'.
protip: you'll run out of fingers and toes
fear mongering in order to push a leftist, nanny-state system of beliefs. that's what the MSM gets you.
The difference with Faux Noose is they push a rightish, nanny-state system of beliefs.
The difference between the two is the rightist nanny state allows more freedom through greater erosion of privacy, while the leftist nanny state allows greater privacy through greater erosion of freedom. at least, that's how it's working out.
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Re: Fox News is FUCKING CRAZY [Re: Mushmonkey]
#8596155 - 07/04/08 10:32 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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LOL...well I don't base my observation on one subject like the 2nd amendment. Nor are all liberals against the 2nd amendment...I know I'm not. The MSM is corporate. The R's are the more corporate friendly of the two parties. They would prefer to see the R's run things because that usually 'better for business'. And the a lot of how news is covered in the MSM is usually controlled by people above the 'News Division' on the corporate ladder. You think GE would let NBC news run anything that would hurt their profits? It is all about $$$ and cents...business.
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Re: Fox News is FUCKING CRAZY [Re: Libertine]
#8596277 - 07/04/08 11:37 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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your 4th sentence is in grievous error.
BOTH parties are corporate friendly, and to think otherwise is to make yourself their fool. Do you think corporations hire lobbyists to walk around handing out money (OH SORRY -- free trips and dinners and entertainment, THAT'S NOT MONEY THOUGH LOL!) and when they go up to Republicans the guy can't get enough, but the Democrats turn them away?
Are you seriously claiming that you believe a Democrat is made of some kind of stronger moral fiber than a Republican when it comes to corporate bribery?
Psst, Clinton's the one who signed the DMCA. o hai nafta. oh and the telecom act of 96, lol@clearchannel. He may have been getting his dick sucked by an intern, but all the while he was firmly sucking on the corporate cock.
and I like how you give as an example a corporate entity restricting the news that could be run as an example of Republican control of the media. You first made a dangerous assumption that Corporate = Republican, and then used that assumption to justify another belief.
Very bad and wrong. Sorry.
MSM has a big-money corporate leaning, the overwhelming majority of news journalists are left-leaning (if not outright left-laying, after leaning so far they fell flat on their face), and tell me you don't believe that, knowing full well they have a left-leaning slant to the news and that the majority of their customers either don't care or agree with that viewpoint that they would continue on their merry, successful way.
In other words, the MSM leaning left has worked for CNN and MSNBC and CSPAN and what the fuck ever else -- why would they change? You don't shoot the horse that wins the race.
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Re: Fox News is FUCKING CRAZY [Re: Mushmonkey]
#8596309 - 07/04/08 11:58 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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I never said both parties weren't corporate friendly. All I said was that the R's were a bit friendlier.
To quote myself:
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The R's are the more corporate friendly of the two parties.
I am not saying D's aren't/can't be bribed. Yep, they have some members who have been just as corrupt as the R's. Just it seems more R's are getting caught...especially lately. There is a republican DoJ in place so one would think less R's would get caught. But for some reason (Hmmmm...I wonder why?) more R's have got into trouble recently for corruption. But even just in the case of supporting legislation that is pro-corporate the R's seem to support it more often...they are more pro-business. Again that is not to say that a good many D's aren't.
Again I disagree on the MSM being 'liberal'. I look around the channels and see people like Lou Dobbs, Joe Scarborough (who I kinda like but who is conservative), Pat Buchanan is all over MSNBC, and I could go on and on. The rest of the MSM isn't as conservative as Faux News but they sure as hell ain't liberal either.
And BTW C-Span is strictly non-partisan. An information only channel with no real analysis. Live coverage of House and Senate debates, committee hearings and confirmation hearings, etc.
Calling it a night...to be continued?
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