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 Mushr00m_Man
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 Re: Nilla's Scraping PF Tek Experiment  [Re: Mushr00m_Man]
#8588672 - 07/02/08 06:17 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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i think we should just chill and help eachother instead of telling other their methods suck 
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Mad River
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Re: Nilla's Scraping PF Tek Experiment [Re: anarchOi]
#8588908 - 07/02/08 07:20 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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anarchOi said:
might i ask?.. wtf is the point of this other than a bunch of beginners bouncing around pointless ideas
Indeed I am a beginner. I admit it on this forum all the time.
Why do you feel the idea is pointless?
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anarchOi said:
why the hell would you scrape a cake? why would you leave the uncolonized verm?
If you'd take a look at the link in my first post, you'd see why I am giving this a try. I am trying to see if I can grow some large shrooms off of BRF cakes. I really don't understand the other question. It's not very well phrased. I am not leaving any uncolonized verm. The point is to scrape away any uncolonized verm, not leave it. One cake I did was fully colonized, and did not require scraping any uncolonized verm. The other cake had stalled, and taken a very long time to get that far, so rather than toss it, I thought I'd try this.
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anarchOi said:
all it takes it running your cake under water from the tap and using your fingers to remove any uncolonized areas
Normally, and optimally, I would agree with you, and would not normally birth cakes with uncolonized areas anyway.
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anarchOi said:
cakes aren't hard. you just have to read.
Again I agree with you. I don't think cakes are hard. I had a pretty successful first grow, in my opinion, using the PF Tek. You can check the link in my signature, if you'd like to comment.
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anarchOi said:
any improvement in pinset from scraping a cake is not a matter of the mycelium feeling threatened it's a matter of it thinking it is dying
Um, I don't know about you, but if I thought I was being killed, I would feel threatened, but enough anthropomorphizing mycelium. It seems you are arguing po-TAY-toes and po-TOT-oes. I have no idea if this concept contributes to mycelial growth or not, anyway.
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anarchOi said:
do you know anything about the relation of nutrients/substrate mass to pinset?
Care to share your equation with us beginners? It would be helpful, and we'd be grateful. 
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anarchOi said:
even if you do manage to get more pins, the majority will abort and they'll likely be nothing but whisps of mushrooms after drying
More pins is not the point of this method. If you'd have bothered to take a look at the link in the first post, you'd know that. Your comment about "whisps of mushrooms" would appear to be extremely inaccurate.
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anarchOi said:
putting your cakes on wet vermiculite would be more than ill advised
Dude, putting your cakes on wet vermiculite is called dunking and rolling.
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anarchOi said:
you guys needs to come back with more experience under your belts before you start writing teks that will only confuse every other nub that comes along.
I am not writing a Tek. As the title of this thread suggests, I am experimenting with someone else's. It is the responsibility of every newb, myself included, to read things thoroughly and figure it out for themselves. I did it, I'm sure they can, too. As I said this thread is clearly labeled as an experiment. I have seen much more experienced growers than me put out some very questionable information lately that is not clearly noted as misinformation, experimentation, or a joke.
I'm sure you and the status quo will have a long and happy marriage. Good for you.
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Mad River
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Re: Nilla's Scraping PF Tek Experiment [Re: pazzy]
#8588939 - 07/02/08 07:29 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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pazzy said:
Wet paper towel is an invitation for contaminants, cakes don't like being scratched.
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RogerRabbit said:
There's lots of substitutes for perlite. I've used paper towels, and even damp cloth towels to provide humidity in a terrarium. They work fine provided you replace them every few days, or if using cloth, simply run it through the washing machine.
Knock off the rude comments folks. I've known Nilla for several years. He does things a bit differently than I do, but nobody can argue with what works. There's more than one way to do things. It's always nice to expand the knowledge base. 
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pazzy said:Kudos for trying something new though keep us posted.
Thank you. I'll have another update, probably with a pic tonight.
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johnny.fairplay
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Re: Nilla's Scraping PF Tek Experiment [Re: Mad River]
#8589086 - 07/02/08 08:11 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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ner... LOUD NOISES... LOUD NOISES...
I love lamp
... Great old school tek. I'll have to try it next time around to compare with my results and just GAIN a new way of doing things
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anarchOi
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Re: Nilla's Scraping PF Tek Experiment [Re: Mushr00m_Man]
#8589631 - 07/02/08 10:44 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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10 years and you're still scraping cakes? haha
OG growers don't use cakes.. atleast not any with any sense
methods have changed time and time again and this is FAR from anything new
i never got heated, i'm just trying to tell you nubs to move on in life
cakes are a waste of time, effort and resources after the innitial experience is gained
the pictures are NOT impressive..
far from infact
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 HoleSnype
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Re: Nilla's Scraping PF Tek Experiment [Re: anarchOi]
#8589645 - 07/02/08 10:47 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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anarchOi said:
10 years and you're still scraping cakes? haha
OG growers don't use cakes.. atleast not any with any sense
methods have changed time and time again and this is FAR from anything new
i never got heated, i'm just trying to tell you nubs to move on in life
cakes are a waste of time, effort and resources after the innitial experience is gained
the pictures are NOT impressive..
far from infact
That's nice, coming from a noob.
We are really impressed with your bulk grows, like this one....
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/usergallery.php/pid/637154/imgpl/3/imgpp/12
I've had 10X that many shrooms off of a cake.
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nilla
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Re: Nilla's Scraping PF Tek Experiment [Re: HoleSnype]
#8589680 - 07/02/08 10:59 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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That is truely pathetic!!!
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HoleSnype
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 Re: Nilla's Scraping PF Tek Experiment [Re: nilla]
#8589701 - 07/02/08 11:03 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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nilla said:
That is truely pathetic!!!
I know. I decided to look through his gallery ( ). He has several bulk grows, but nothing I can't get off of a cake. Don't get me wrong. I like doing bulk subs too, but cakes are easy and fun. Not all of us are trying to get a ton of shrooms.....
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nilla
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Re: Nilla's Scraping PF Tek Experiment [Re: HoleSnype]
#8589728 - 07/02/08 11:10 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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Heres a funny....
Check this pic out..
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/usergallery.php/pid/608497/imgpl/3/imgpp/12
is it a he or a she??
The finger nails say other wise,,lol
Well, if you are male and these are your hands there very female like..
Anyway,that said hes/she has small hands and im a big guy.
So check out his bulk bigguns compared to my cakes.
I think he's in denile,,,,,of a few things...lol
Edited by nilla (07/02/08 11:16 PM)
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HoleSnype
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Re: Nilla's Scraping PF Tek Experiment [Re: nilla]
#8589737 - 07/02/08 11:13 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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nilla said:
Heres a funny....
Check this pic out..http://www.shroomery.org/forums/usergallery.php/pid/608497/imgpl/3/imgpp/12.is it a he or a she??
The finger nails say other wise,,lol
Well, if you are male and these are your hands there very female like..
Anyway,that said hes/she has small hands and im a big guy.
So check out his bulk bigguns compared to my cakes.
I think he's in denile,,,,,of a few things...lol
You forgot to post the pic, but I assume you are talking about this one...
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/usergallery.php/pid/637894/imgpl/3/imgpp/12
 
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nilla
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Re: Nilla's Scraping PF Tek Experiment [Re: HoleSnype]
#8589757 - 07/02/08 11:19 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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No but thats hella funny too,,,lol
"Hey Girlymon,,why dontcha clip de finga nails"
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Mad River
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Re: Nilla's Scraping PF Tek Experiment [Re: nilla]
#8589835 - 07/02/08 11:35 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ok, no pic tonight as I'm not sure where my camera is at the moment. The update is that the whole cake is looking pretty white and fluffy three days in now, though the top and far side are not quite as fluffy as the side closest to me.
The crescent shaped cake is very fluffy at the bottom, and not so fluffy further up. At the very top it seems that the mycelium is very thin, and looks somewhat bluish, like bruising underneath... Hopefully this is not a contam growing where I didn't scrape aggressively enough...
Both cakes have mycelium growing pretty far out onto the paper towel now. Do you think the towel is too wet, or that this will cause a problem? Any benefit to lifting the cakes or flipping them?
The mycelium is growing pretty far out onto the paper towel now on both of them.
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By the way, anarchOi, I found this Tek that you may find more interesting. 
Edited by Mad River (07/02/08 11:55 PM)
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nilla
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Re: Nilla's Scraping PF Tek Experiment [Re: Mad River]
#8589857 - 07/02/08 11:40 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thats normal.
Make sure the towel stays damp and not soaked,,about the amount you in a casing mix.
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rugergirl79
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Re: Nilla's Scraping PF Tek Experiment [Re: nilla]
#8589869 - 07/02/08 11:42 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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sorry had too....you guys are killing me....awesome....
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blood4blood
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Re: Nilla's Scraping PF Tek Experiment [Re: rugergirl79]
#8589890 - 07/02/08 11:45 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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seriously your all acting like a bunch of immature school kids. grow up and stop crashing this guys thread.
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Mad River
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Re: Nilla's Scraping PF Tek Experiment [Re: rugergirl79]
#8589896 - 07/02/08 11:46 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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nilla
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Re: Nilla's Scraping PF Tek Experiment [Re: rugergirl79]
#8589909 - 07/02/08 11:49 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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YESSSSS!!!!!!,LOL!
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rugergirl79
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Re: Nilla's Scraping PF Tek Experiment [Re: blood4blood]
#8589948 - 07/02/08 11:57 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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blood4blood said:
seriously your all acting like a bunch of immature school kids. grow up and stop crashing this guys thread.
grrrrrr....wtf dude???? and i thought i had some major pms???? were just havin a little fun.....and the op dosent seem to mind..
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Mad River
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Re: Nilla's Scraping PF Tek Experiment [Re: blood4blood]
#8589966 - 07/03/08 12:01 AM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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blood4blood said:
seriously your all acting like a bunch of immature school kids. grow up and stop crashing this guys thread.
The person causing all the asshatery (pronounced: ass-HAT-er-ee) is anarchOi. As long as he wants to flame everyone else on this thread... I say open up the silos.
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rugergirl79
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Re: Nilla's Scraping PF Tek Experiment [Re: Mad River]
#8589975 - 07/03/08 12:05 AM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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and the church of todd has spoken.....amen
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