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PKerseyDTHWSH
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Can this terrarium possibly work?
#8587950 - 07/02/08 02:09 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Look at all the holes this guy drills in his terrarium. Can it possible hold humudity with all of those holes. It did not for me the one time I tried it this way.
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Re: Can this terrarium possibly work? [Re: PKerseyDTHWSH]
#8587957 - 07/02/08 02:12 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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You obviously didn't follow the instructions or, didn't use enough perlite. This setup works for many MANY people.
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Re: Can this terrarium possibly work? [Re: endepth]
#8587964 - 07/02/08 02:14 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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No I did follow the instructions. My cakes ended up drying and getting moldy. Now I don't drill holes and just change the air a few times a day and it works great. I wish it worked the other way, so I wouldn't have to change the air at all.
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Re: Can this terrarium possibly work? [Re: PKerseyDTHWSH]
#8587970 - 07/02/08 02:15 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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You still have to fan with that setup. So no you didn't follow the directions.
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Re: Can this terrarium possibly work? [Re: PKerseyDTHWSH]
#8587971 - 07/02/08 02:16 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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RR's videos. They would great. It wasn't the terrarium it was your cakes. I have used this setup for awhile now, and no failures. Other than I did lose a few cakes to cobweb mold but that was my fault.
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Re: Can this terrarium possibly work? [Re: endepth]
#8587979 - 07/02/08 02:18 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well if that guy told me to fan it I would have, but he gives some half ass instructions. Why would you drill the holes if you still have to fan it?
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Re: Can this terrarium possibly work? [Re: MHbound]
#8587980 - 07/02/08 02:19 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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MHbound said: RR's videos. They would great. It wasn't the terrarium it was your cakes. I have used this setup for awhile now, and no failures. Other than I did lose a few cakes to cobweb mold but that was my fault.
I watched that video a few times. Am I missing something? Does he say anything about fanning them?
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Re: Can this terrarium possibly work? [Re: PKerseyDTHWSH]
#8587983 - 07/02/08 02:21 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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half assed??? hardly!! buy his video, this is just some of the clips from his vid. RR's videos are worth their weight in gold. If you follow his instructions to a T, you shouldnt have any problem!!! I still use pearlite and it works just fine. kat
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Re: Can this terrarium possibly work? [Re: rugergirl79]
#8587987 - 07/02/08 02:22 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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no, I think I'll stick to what is working for me. I still am wondering what the purpose of the holes are if you still have to fan the cakes.
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Re: Can this terrarium possibly work? [Re: PKerseyDTHWSH]
#8587991 - 07/02/08 02:24 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Don't be an idiot. Those clips on youtube are very short segments of the full video. It's not his fault you didn't read enough to do the job properly.
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Re: Can this terrarium possibly work? [Re: PKerseyDTHWSH]
#8587995 - 07/02/08 02:25 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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FAE....mushies need fresh air, or you will get some short fat mutations, or long and leggy mushies.
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Re: Can this terrarium possibly work? [Re: endepth]
#8587996 - 07/02/08 02:26 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah OK, again, so what is the purpose of the holes?
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Re: Can this terrarium possibly work? [Re: rugergirl79]
#8588000 - 07/02/08 02:28 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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rugergirl79 said: FAE....mushies need fresh air, or you will get some short fat mutations, or long and leggy mushies.
I know they need fresh air. Thats why I fan mine 3 times a day. I don't drill any holes though.
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Re: Can this terrarium possibly work? [Re: PKerseyDTHWSH]
#8588001 - 07/02/08 02:28 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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PKerseyDTHWSH said: Yeah OK, again, so what is the purpose of the holes?
So co2 can escape in between fanning.
Do a search for RR's shotgun FC.
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Edited by endepth (07/02/08 02:28 PM)
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rugergirl79
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Re: Can this terrarium possibly work? [Re: PKerseyDTHWSH]
#8588002 - 07/02/08 02:28 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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well, this is from the main man himself....i happened to use the search function!!! <<<i suggest this for most of your questions.
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RogerRabbit said: Water doesn't drip out the bottom, because there should be no standing water in the perlite anyway.
We all (should)know that the key to preventing contaminants in fruiting chambers is fresh air exchange(FAE). Therefore, the more air exchange you can provide without loosing humidity is the best situation. However, fanning is a pain in the ass, and many of us must leave for 8 or more hours per day to earn a living, leaving the tubs to sit unattended. This results in molds such as cobweb and/or trichoderma from the stale air. Having the holes alleviates the problem.
The holes in the bottom increase humidity. How? It's a development from something I learned working on the Alaska Pipeline project in the 1970's, helping to engineer the supports that are actually self contained refrigeration units that keep the tundra frozen even in summer so they don't shift, thus preventing the pipeline from rupturing. The supports require no electricity to operate.
The methodology is this: Air currents travel from high pressure to low. Heat expands the air, thus causing low pressure. Cold compresses the air, thus causing high pressure. The damp perlite is cold, so the air surrounding the perlite is our 'high' pressure. The substrates within a terrarium produce heat, as does the lights shining through the sides or top, thus the air in upper terrarium becomes 'low' pressure. This causes air to want to flow through the perlite and into the terrarium, but only if there is an entry point at the bottom for the air to be drawn in. The air, by natural convection passes through the perlite, absorbing moisture as it does. It then enters the terrarium, and is expelled through the holes above. This natural circulation provides FAE without fanning, while keeping the humidity higher than it would otherwise be.
I developed this over the last year, but am just now releasing it after a full year of testing, so don't look for anyone else besides myself to have used this system yet. It works. Oyster mushrooms still should be fanned a time or two per day, but every other species has done very well with this system with no fanning, and humidity maintains between 95% and 98% provided four to five inches of damp perlite are used. Smaller depths may work with smaller terrariums, but with the 106 liter terrarium I've posted pictures of, four to five inches is best. RR
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Re: Can this terrarium possibly work? [Re: rugergirl79]
#8588006 - 07/02/08 02:30 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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OK, thanks. That answers my question.
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Re: Can this terrarium possibly work? [Re: rugergirl79]
#8588010 - 07/02/08 02:31 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Can this terrarium possibly work? [Re: endepth]
#8588019 - 07/02/08 02:33 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Why wack me with a stick, i am not the one wanting to be spoon fed!!
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Re: Can this terrarium possibly work? [Re: rugergirl79]
#8588036 - 07/02/08 02:38 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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rugergirl79 said: Why wack me with a stick, i am not the one wanting to be spoon fed!!
Are you saying because I asked the question I want to be spoon fed? I thought this was the forum to ask this type of stuff. Thanks for the help, but if you don't want to answer the question, then don't and I'm sure someone else will help.
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Re: Can this terrarium possibly work? [Re: endepth]
#8588041 - 07/02/08 02:39 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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endepth said: It's not his fault you didn't read enough to do the job properly.
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