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    #8584997 - 07/01/08 05:49 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/search/ProductDetail/SIGMA/L7007


You can buy it, in theory.

There is just this little problem:

"Ordering Instructions and Help

Due to the hazardous nature of many of the products we sell, all requests to order / request quotes on-line are reviewed to verify that you are part of an organization that is an existing Sigma-Aldrich customer.

If your organization has not ordered from us in the past, and you wish to place an order, please contact your Local Office directly so a new account can be established or fill out an on-line My Profile form to request access to the site"


Do you think you can get over it? :biggrin:


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Re: Sigma-Aldrich [Re: Hiei]
    #8585020 - 07/01/08 05:58 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Sure, if you can fake a DEA license. Which I kinda doubt you can.


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Re: Sigma-Aldrich [Re: LSDreamer]
    #8585189 - 07/01/08 06:55 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Interesting, so who would and could legitimately buy this?


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Re: Sigma-Aldrich [Re: openmind]
    #8585419 - 07/01/08 08:04 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Research scientists. I doubt they do much if any business in the US though. That is assuming its a legit company.


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Re: Sigma-Aldrich [Re: blewmeanie]
    #8585491 - 07/01/08 08:18 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

ha, i wonder how much a gram goes for.


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Re: Sigma-Aldrich [Re: Hiei]
    #8586197 - 07/01/08 10:58 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

I can speak from experience on this.  You would still need to show Aldrich that you have received permission from your government to possess the substance.  Once you have satisfied them (so they can't be held liable) they are quite happy to sell you anything.

Also, you don't purchase research licences, at least not where I live.  Around here, the procedure is simply to write to the proper government body (the health agency in the case) requesting permission to possess whatever restricted substance and give them a justification for why you need to possess it and why you are qualified to investigate it.  Licences are temporary and generally allow one to possess small amounts of a substance at a time.


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Re: Sigma-Aldrich [Re: Plasmid]
    #8586213 - 07/01/08 11:02 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

btw imagine how absolutly pure that is....
(million dollar lab, agonizingly slow recrystalization..)


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Re: Sigma-Aldrich [Re: Krackers]
    #8586549 - 07/02/08 01:15 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

At the front of the Aldrich catalogue, they have a list of all hazardous substances which they point out you need special permission to purchase (I think not only do you need exemption from the relevant controlled substances act, but in order to import a product from Aldrich into another company, you have to tell your government exactly where you're buying it from so Aldrich points this out on that page).

The page is just one big fat list of any drug or precursor that basically anyone would want: lysergic acid, LSD, heroin, cocaine, etc.

I think for items like this, you have to ask the company for a quote.  It's going to be similar to buying a piece of equipment from a company.  A typical substance would likely have a standard price, but imagine the premium they could charge you on a controlled substance.

It's sort of a monopoly for them because research labs can also obtain permission to manufacture small amounts of controlled substances, but they have to be kept in safes.  At a pharmaceutical company I once worked for, the safe was more like a walk-in closet with a bank vault door protecting it.  Apparently, even the fire department was to be denied access to it.

I don't know if they'd both with an agonizingly slow recrystallization.  HPLC probably does the job pretty well for most substances being manufacture by known methods.  You wouldn't want to rush the crystallization, of course.


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Re: Sigma-Aldrich [Re: PilzeEssen]
    #8587245 - 07/02/08 10:27 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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PilzeEssen said:
ha, i wonder how much a gram goes for.




1mg for 80 euros, so a bit over $100,000 per gram assuming there isn't a bulk discount. Street is cheaper.

edit -- look under Price and Availability: http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/search/ProductDetail/SIGMA/L7007


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Re: Sigma-Aldrich [Re: Plasmid]
    #8587251 - 07/02/08 10:28 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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Plasmid said:
Also, you don't purchase research licences, at least not where I live.  Around here, the procedure is simply to write to the proper government body (the health agency in the case) requesting permission to possess whatever restricted substance and give them a justification for why you need to possess it and why you are qualified to investigate it.  Licences are temporary and generally allow one to possess small amounts of a substance at a time.



I'd wondered about that... So researchers/labs never have a free license to possess say, LSD, they have permission to possess a certain amount of LSD, based on the needs of their current project? Interesting.


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Re: Sigma-Aldrich [Re: astronaut]
    #8587591 - 07/02/08 12:05 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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astronaut said:
Quote:

PilzeEssen said:
ha, i wonder how much a gram goes for.




1mg for 80 euros, so a bit over $100,000 per gram assuming there isn't a bulk discount. Street is cheaper.

edit -- look under Price and Availability: http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/search/ProductDetail/SIGMA/L7007




Forget that.  It shouldn't be any more than $10,000/g, and more along the lines of 8000 a G.


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