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California to Legalize Weed for Everyone
    #8580722 - 06/30/08 05:45 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I don't think this will pass, but it is Cali so you never know...

California to Legalize Weed for Everyone
June 30, 2008 - laist.com

There is an initiative in the works that could end up on the November ballot that allows for marijuana to be sold to anyone, and anywhere that already sells alcohol. Its being called The Inalienable Rights Enforcement Initiative. From the full text of the measure:

   
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This initiative will amend the Constitution of California to defend and safeguard the inalienable rights of the People against infringement by governments and corporations, providing for the lawful growth, sale, and possession of marijuana. Marijuana will be taxed through a system of stamps and licenses--a $5 stamp will be required for the sale of an eighth ounce of marijuana and a $50 annual license will be required for the growth of one marijuana plant. To protect participants and encourage participation in the system, such licenses and stamps will be available anonymously in stores where marijuana is sold.




So instead of getting some quack doctor to give you a prescription for $100 because of your supposed "anxiety" or alleged "insomnia", you will just pay an extra tax each time you buy yourself another 8th.

Aside from allowing all willing adults to be able to buy weed easily, this initiative will start to generate revenue for California, and stimulate our struggling economy. More weed stores means more jobs for Californians, more taxes to be collected, and more people enjoying better weed. And finally marijuana will be put into the same file as Alcohol and Cigarettes where it belongs, instead of it being equated with crack-cocaine and heroine.

The initiative goes on to say why they believe this to be a necessary measure:

   
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We also hold these truths to be self-evident-That, as an intoxicant, marijuana is far less harmful to the health and safety of the People than alcohol--That, as a smoking substance, marijuana is far less addictive or harmful to the health of the People than tobacco--That, even though alcohol is harmful to the health and safety of the People, the prohibition of alcohol from 1920 to 1933 only increased the harms associated with alcohol use: criminals seized control of the alcohol market, crime and violence increased greatly, and poverty, unemployment, and corruption flourished, while otherwise lawful alcohol drinkers were treated as "criminals" subject to detention, arrest, and incarceration, even though they had not harmed the rights of anyone--That, as with alcohol prohibition, the prohibition of marijuana has only increased the harms associated with the use of marijuana: criminals control a multi-billion dollar market, crime and violence have increased greatly, and poverty, unemployment, and corruption flourish, while otherwise law-abiding marijuana smokers are treated as "criminals" subject to detention, arrest, and incarceration, even though they have not harmed the rights of anyone-That the history of marijuana prohibition is a history of repeated injuries and infringements upon the inalienable rights, powers, and best interests of the People.




Fuck Yes! Preach on, brothers! They go on to point out that alcohol, tobacco, and big-pharma lobbyists have the politicians that are supposed to represent the People in their back-pockets and serving the interests of the alcohol, tobacco, and big-pharma industries.

   
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Despite the harms of marijuana prohibition, politicians persist in imposing and upholding marijuana prohibition, because these politicians are not working for the People--they are working for the corporate executives who financed their campaigns, such as corporate executives in the alcohol industry who want to protect their monopoly on intoxication, corporate executives in the tobacco industry who want to protect their monopoly on smoking, corporate executives in the pharmaceutical industry who want to protect their monopoly on expensive medicines, and corporate executives in the many industries threatened by competition with hemp. These corporate executives pull the strings of the government to perpetuate marijuana prohibition despite its harms, because they do not care about the inalienable rights and best interests of the People--they care about taking as much money from the People as possible. These corporate executives also use their control of the mainstream media to make it seem like marijuana prohibition is a failed attempt to serve the interests of the People, censoring the idea that marijuana prohibition is a successful attempt to serve corporate interests at the expense of the People. For these corporate interests, politicians sacrifice the inalienable rights and best interests of the People. This corruption and corporate influence is worse at the national level, where the People can least afford political influence and the media is most effective at manipulating public debate. Because of this corruption, it is futile for the People to turn to the federal government for protection--because the federal government is the source of the harm. The repeated attempts by the People to reduce the harms of marijuana prohibition have been answered only by repeated injury. The harm from marijuana prohibition is ongoing and the need for relief is urgent. Such is the suffering of the People, and such is the necessity that constrains us to alter our former systems of government. A government with a character marked by every act that defines a tyrant is unfit to be the ruler of a free people. Therefore, appealing to humankind for the rightness of our intentions




They need 694,354 signatures by September, 5, 2008. I think it's totally do-able. Its been over a decade since Proposition 215, the Compassionate Use Act of 1996, was passed with over 5 million votes in favor.

So 12 years later... are we more or less tolerant of recreational use of marijuana? For now, we'll have to wait and see.


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Re: California to Legalize Weed for Everyone [Re: veggie]
    #8580730 - 06/30/08 05:48 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

epic


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Re: California to Legalize Weed for Everyone [Re: PsilocybinMike]
    #8580747 - 06/30/08 05:55 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

:thumbup:


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Re: California to Legalize Weed for Everyone [Re: PsilocybinMike]
    #8580754 - 06/30/08 05:58 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

wow, this truly is epic.

i'd give it a 55 to 45% chance for passing, a slight favor to not, but i may just be a bit pessimistic.


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Re: California to Legalize Weed for Everyone [Re: PsilocybinMike]
    #8580756 - 06/30/08 06:00 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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PsilocybinMike said:
epic




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Re: California to Legalize Weed for Everyone [Re: Shamanintraining]
    #8580770 - 06/30/08 06:04 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

ps. here's a link to the initiative if you'd like to read it-

ag.ca.gov/cms_attachments/initiatives/pdfs/i782_08-0009_initiative_compliant.pdf


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Re: California to Legalize Weed for Everyone [Re: Shamanintraining]
    #8580771 - 06/30/08 06:04 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

man its jus gonna get more expensive
with taxes n shit
grrrrrrrrrrrrrr


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Re: California to Legalize Weed for Everyone [Re: Coaster]
    #8580774 - 06/30/08 06:05 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Coaster said:
man its jus gonna get more expensive
with taxes n shit
grrrrrrrrrrrrrr




theres always alaska


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Re: California to Legalize Weed for Everyone [Re: Coaster]
    #8580784 - 06/30/08 06:08 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Coaster said:
man its jus gonna get more expensive
with taxes n shit
grrrrrrrrrrrrrr




i agree:crankey:


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Re: California to Legalize Weed for Everyone [Re: xshadowmage666x]
    #8580800 - 06/30/08 06:14 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

i disagree, you think marijuana is affordable now? it's expensive as fuck. the only reason why pot is so expensive is because it's illegal, and that because price is dictated by supply and demand, i thought you guys learned this in grade school... legal pot = more supply = lower prices

the only thing i disagree with is needing a license to grow a personal amount of pot, that's like taxing personal grows on tomatoes.


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Re: California to Legalize Weed for Everyone [Re: Shamanintraining]
    #8580812 - 06/30/08 06:16 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

OMG, if this happens, california will become one of the wealthiest, if not the wealthiest state. It will create better funds for education, medicine, jobs, and welfare. Truly a break through


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Re: California to Legalize Weed for Everyone [Re: j0nnyb0y05]
    #8580870 - 06/30/08 06:33 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I tend to think nothing much will come of this even if passed, besides pressure on the feds.

Perhaps with a democratic governor, ironically for state's rights in this case, their might be lax enforcement, but who knows.

The problem of asset seizure is what will doom this.  Even those willing to risk criminal prosecution, which may be lax given the state legality, will have to contend with their store and assets being stolen by the feds.  A very effective tool.

Nonetheless, I am very much for this measure as it will put pressure on the feds to either enforce their dumb law or to not enforce it- either way it will raise awareness and public discourse.


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Re: California to Legalize Weed for Everyone [Re: johnm214]
    #8580895 - 06/30/08 06:41 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Up to the people if they want it or not O_o Gotta support it but everyone will be too baked


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Re: California to Legalize Weed for Everyone [Re: johnm214]
    #8580902 - 06/30/08 06:42 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I disagree with you ^.. i think this will catapult the issues of states rights in this matter and we will see a breakthrough on a national level if they can pass this.


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Re: California to Legalize Weed for Everyone [Re: KrishnaDreamer]
    #8580906 - 06/30/08 06:44 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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i disagree, you think marijuana is affordable now? it's expensive as fuck. the only reason why pot is so expensive is because it's illegal, and that because price is dictated by supply and demand, i thought you guys learned this in grade school... legal pot = more supply = lower prices

the only thing i disagree with is needing a license to grow a personal amount of pot, that's like taxing personal grows on tomatoes.



naw dood ur misunderstanding the current situation
there is massive supply
for example the weed clinic i go 2 is non-profit
also they also have at least 5 pounds of weed on deck
they always do
and they never run out
theres just as much supply as there is demand if not more


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Re: California to Legalize Weed for Everyone [Re: johnm214]
    #8580911 - 06/30/08 06:45 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Pardon my ignorance of my own legal system, but how can we ensure that this ends up on the ballot in November?  Does it need to get a certain number of signatures or anything?


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Re: California to Legalize Weed for Everyone [Re: veggie]
    #8580915 - 06/30/08 06:46 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

where can we sign it?


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Re: California to Legalize Weed for Everyone [Re: IslandShroomer]
    #8580965 - 06/30/08 07:03 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Sounds like a wonderful idea.  No longer will thugs and drug cartels be making millions off this plant.  Even if this gets voted in I fully expect the Federal government to fuck everything up.

Even if it doesn't pass, people are still going to get baked like they have for centuries.


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Re: California to Legalize Weed for Everyone [Re: arpnuke]
    #8580975 - 06/30/08 07:07 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Its not going to be any more expensive than when you buy it from your local black market. 50-60 dollars an 8th maybe more depending on who you know. With it being legal the strains only get better. Plus you can grow the shit I mean now you won't get ass raped in prison for smoking it. I would much rather pay a small tax for it.


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Re: California to Legalize Weed for Everyone [Re: Nasrudin]
    #8580980 - 06/30/08 07:08 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Nasrudin said:
Pardon my ignorance of my own legal system, but how can we ensure that this ends up on the ballot in November?  Does it need to get a certain number of signatures or anything?




They need 694,354 signatures by September, 5, 2008.


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