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Americans, Citizens of All Nations, of All Ideologies, Should Watch This Speech
    #8580643 - 06/30/08 03:20 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Obama pumped out another excellent speech, this time about patriotism.  It's very low on partisanship, and I think everybody can agree with what he is saying here.


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Re: Americans, Citizens of all nations, of all ideologies, should watch this speech [Re: Ferris]
    #8580646 - 06/30/08 03:20 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

watch what speech?

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Re: Americans, Citizens of all nations, of all ideologies, should watch this speech [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #8580670 - 06/30/08 03:27 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: Americans, Citizens of all nations, of all ideologies, should watch this speech [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #8580675 - 06/30/08 03:29 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

The

"I will never question the patriotism of others in this campaign. And I will not stand idly by when people question mine.”

Speech....:rolleyes:



Chris Matthews and  Kieth Oblermann will cream in their panties over this speech....

You can read the speech here.

http://thepage.time.com/obamas-prepared-remarks-in-independence-missouri/


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Re: Americans, Citizens of all nations, of all ideologies, should watch this speech [Re: Ferris]
    #8580676 - 06/30/08 03:30 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

only 20 more seconds till it starts!


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I like free markets and all. Truly I do, at least in general, but there needs to be some kind of oversight in recognition of sustainability. Life works the same way, on a bunch of sustainable systems. Why not honor what made us what we are and take some lessons? Nature FTW!

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Re: Americans, Citizens of all nations, of all ideologies, should watch this speech [Re: lonestar2004]
    #8580775 - 06/30/08 04:05 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Why is the Cain part of J-Mac's name capitalized in your sig?

Is it because he's so old he needs one? Really the only reason I can think of.

I can't wait to vote in my first presidential election for Obama. See sig, or watch hours of his speeches.

Then if your still undecided, watch hours of McCain speeches.

See who keeps you interested and feeling engaged in America.


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My advice is to find those things that give pleasure and do them often without too much attachment and relax and wait for the show to end.

-Icelander-

I like free markets and all. Truly I do, at least in general, but there needs to be some kind of oversight in recognition of sustainability. Life works the same way, on a bunch of sustainable systems. Why not honor what made us what we are and take some lessons? Nature FTW!

~dill705~

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Re: Americans, Citizens of all nations, of all ideologies, should watch this speech [Re: dill705]
    #8580854 - 06/30/08 04:28 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Wow, can't wait to see what obama and McCains  speech writers have come up with this time!  They're so good at making politicians sound sincere, moving, and important.


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Re: Americans, Citizens of all nations, of all ideologies, should watch this speech [Re: joekenorer]
    #8580866 - 06/30/08 04:31 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

If a man can't speak on his own, without pages of notes to keep him on mark, then he isn't worth a damn in the first place.  ESPECIALLY for president.  People so rarely mention the despicable act of reading someones else's words as their own.


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My favorites are weeping willows, which aren't really weeping at all. They're very wispy, witty and will dance in the breeze with you. Nothing like a tree that wants to dance with you. Although it doesn't like its thin limbs being pulled at all, it absolutely LOVES it when you walk through them, letting them gently slide over your face and shoulders. If you're naked, the willow considers it to be sex. It will orgasm on your mind and you will blow dream chunks into outer space. All very fun until your neighbor sees you.                                    -The Joekenorer

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Re: Americans, Citizens of all nations, of all ideologies, should watch this speech [Re: joekenorer]
    #8580936 - 06/30/08 04:54 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Last time I checked, Obama wrote most of his speeches and very rarely is seen checking notes.


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Re: Americans, Citizens of all nations, of all ideologies, should watch this speech [Re: joekenorer]
    #8580938 - 06/30/08 04:54 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Watch the speech and you can clearly see that he rarely, if ever, looks at any notes or papers.


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My advice is to find those things that give pleasure and do them often without too much attachment and relax and wait for the show to end.

-Icelander-

I like free markets and all. Truly I do, at least in general, but there needs to be some kind of oversight in recognition of sustainability. Life works the same way, on a bunch of sustainable systems. Why not honor what made us what we are and take some lessons? Nature FTW!

~dill705~

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Re: Americans, Citizens of all nations, of all ideologies, should watch this speech [Re: dill705]
    #8580953 - 06/30/08 04:59 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Really?  I haven't watched any of his speeches.  Maybe thats why he's so popular, people feel like he really is speaking from his own mind.

Congrats to Obama on my behalf, then.  I hope future prospects will see how well its done for him, and speech writers will faze out.


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Re: Americans, Citizens of all nations, of all ideologies, should watch this speech [Re: joekenorer]
    #8581013 - 06/30/08 05:17 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

If you're of voting age, and even if you're not, I strongly suggest you get involved and start checking BOTH candidates out.

Then, realize Obama is better, smarter, and has better judgement, and vote Obama this November!


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My advice is to find those things that give pleasure and do them often without too much attachment and relax and wait for the show to end.

-Icelander-

I like free markets and all. Truly I do, at least in general, but there needs to be some kind of oversight in recognition of sustainability. Life works the same way, on a bunch of sustainable systems. Why not honor what made us what we are and take some lessons? Nature FTW!

~dill705~

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Re: Americans, Citizens of all nations, of all ideologies, should watch this speech [Re: lonestar2004]
    #8581108 - 06/30/08 05:45 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

lonestar2004 said:
The

"I will never question the patriotism of others in this campaign. And I will not stand idly by when people question mine.”

Speech....:rolleyes:



Chris Matthews and  Kieth Oblermann will cream in their panties over this speech....

You can read the speech here.

http://thepage.time.com/obamas-prepared-remarks-in-independence-missouri/




So, what problems do you find with this speech? Nominees should have dick measuring contest about which one loves America more? I think he's spot on in this speech.

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Re: Americans, Citizens of all nations, of all ideologies, should watch this speech [Re: Redstorm]
    #8581132 - 06/30/08 05:51 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Yay, I find myself agreeing with you there Redstorm. Not to often of an accurance.

:thumbup:


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My advice is to find those things that give pleasure and do them often without too much attachment and relax and wait for the show to end.

-Icelander-

I like free markets and all. Truly I do, at least in general, but there needs to be some kind of oversight in recognition of sustainability. Life works the same way, on a bunch of sustainable systems. Why not honor what made us what we are and take some lessons? Nature FTW!

~dill705~

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Re: Americans, Citizens of all nations, of all ideologies, should watch this speech [Re: Redstorm]
    #8581452 - 06/30/08 07:02 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

he's waiting for the blogosphere to tell him why...


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Re: Americans, Citizens of all nations, of all ideologies, should watch this speech [Re: afoaf]
    #8581603 - 06/30/08 07:47 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

:lol:


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My advice is to find those things that give pleasure and do them often without too much attachment and relax and wait for the show to end.

-Icelander-

I like free markets and all. Truly I do, at least in general, but there needs to be some kind of oversight in recognition of sustainability. Life works the same way, on a bunch of sustainable systems. Why not honor what made us what we are and take some lessons? Nature FTW!

~dill705~

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Re: Americans, Citizens of all nations, of all ideologies, should watch this speech [Re: afoaf]
    #8581604 - 06/30/08 07:47 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

he's waiting for the blogosphere to tell him why...



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Re: Americans, Citizens of all nations, of all ideologies, should watch this speech [Re: thedefone]
    #8581897 - 06/30/08 09:30 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I think it's great that you can tell how patriotic your presumed-president is, now that he wears his USA flag lapel pin.  Want some freedom fries with that?

Because if the media has taught me anything, it's that real patriotism is small, meaningless symbolic gestures and phrases, while supporting a self-destructive policy, and promising that which is illegal for the government to provide.


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Re: Americans, Citizens of all nations, of all ideologies, should watch this speech [Re: Minstrel]
    #8582066 - 06/30/08 10:05 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

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I think it's great that you can tell how patriotic your presumed-president is, now that he wears his USA flag lapel pin.  Want some freedom fries with that?

Because if the media has taught me anything, it's that real patriotism is small, meaningless symbolic gestures and phrases, while supporting a self-destructive policy, and promising that which is illegal for the government to provide.




You didn't listen to the speech did you??  GTFO

He attacked just the sort of sentiment that you are accusing him of.


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Re: Americans, Citizens of all nations, of all ideologies, should watch this speech [Re: afoaf]
    #8582095 - 06/30/08 10:11 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

This guy's observations save me some typing. http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives2/2008/06/020877.php

I really don't understand how Barry managed to get himself a reputation as some kind of a great orator. It baffles the hell out of me. I've seen videos and read transcripts of the speeches folks are swooning over, and they leave me scratching my head. Yes, there's the occasional deft turn of phrase but on the whole they are at best decent and at worst hilariously inept - especially when it comes to facts. This guy makes Dan Quayle look like a genius.





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