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Nilla's Scraping PF Tek Experiment [Updated 7/7/08]
    #8579254 - 06/30/08 01:42 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Okay after reading newcomer Nilla's Ideas, and seeing some of his results, I decided to try his scraping tek. I already have a fruiting chamber, though, and no room to try his FC, so I will not be duplicating that portion of his tek.

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I had two 1/2 pint PF cakes dunking already. These cakes were colonized with the Koh Samui Super Strain. The spores I got from a non-vendor, and I believe they were old. They took forever to colonize, in fact one of the cakes is really only about a third of a cake, as it had completely stalled. These two cakes were the only ones that did anything out of 6 cakes inoculated with these spores.

They soaked for 24 hours, then I attempted to scrape them as Nilla suggested. This was actually very easy. I cut the dry verm layer threshold off with a sharp knife, then used the serrated side of a butter knife to scrape the snowy white mycelium off of the sides. It was actually painful for me to do this, as it seems like a waste of beautiful mushroomy goodness. I did not scrape the bottom off, as Nilla says this protects the cakes from contamination when we sit them down on wet paper towels in the FC. Here are the cakes:



And here they are in my FC, sitting on a wet paper towel.

The other cakes are B+ on their 3rd flush. They were dunked for 36-60 hours, and not rolled in verm this time. They were dunked and rolled before and after the first flush. They look a little raggedy now; not sure what I'm going to see with those guys. For their story, check out the link below, "First Growlog."

Anyway, I shall keep you updated. Obviously, this is not a double blind study or anything like that. I'm just giving dude's idea a shot.

Your questions and comments are appreciated!

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Re: Nilla's Scraping PF Tek Experiment [Re: Mad River]
    #8579291 - 06/30/08 01:56 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Awsome bro.
I hope it work out for ya.
Frome experience doing this it seems it work the best the first time around "first flush".
They dont seem to get as fluffy on second and third flush's.

Looks right though.
Make sure to feel that paper towel every few days and if it gets dry add a tad water to it,no bleach.


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Re: Nilla's Scraping PF Tek Experiment [Re: nilla]
    #8579315 - 06/30/08 02:05 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks, man. Will do. :smile:


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Re: Nilla's Scraping PF Tek Experiment [Re: nilla]
    #8579327 - 06/30/08 02:08 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

this is a sweet method i think im gunna try it out this weekend


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Re: Nilla's Scraping PF Tek Experiment [Re: Mad River]
    #8582339 - 07/01/08 01:11 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

A quick update. It's been about a day, and initially I didn't think there had been any growth. However upon further inspection i believe they have gotten whiter. I would not say they have begun to "fluff up" as nilla calls it, by there is some mycelial growth.

I'll keep you updated.


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Re: Nilla's Scraping PF Tek Experiment [Re: Mad River]
    #8585723 - 07/01/08 11:03 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

How about today?


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Re: Nilla's Scraping PF Tek Experiment [Re: nilla]
    #8585808 - 07/01/08 11:24 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Okay, today, still not fluffy, but getting whiter. On an interesting note, however, the bottom is the whitest, and the mycelium is creeping onto the paper towel!

Whatever happens, it's interesting. I only hope to get a spore print from this KSSS strain, so I can have some good spores.


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Re: Nilla's Scraping PF Tek Experiment [Re: Mad River]
    #8585810 - 07/01/08 11:25 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Mad River said:
Okay, today, still not fluffy, but getting whiter. On an interesting note, however, the botom is the whitest, and the mycelium is creeping onto the paper towel!





Just like was predicted.  Mycelium will colonize perlite too which is why you have to put something down when placeing a cake in a FC.


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Re: Nilla's Scraping PF Tek Experiment [Re: legallyhomeless]
    #8585841 - 07/01/08 11:36 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Heres how fluffy mine get.
This is a about a week old.



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Re: Nilla's Scraping PF Tek Experiment [Re: nilla]
    #8585854 - 07/01/08 11:41 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah this is only what, two days?


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Re: Nilla's Scraping PF Tek Experiment [Re: Mad River]
    #8585861 - 07/01/08 11:42 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

HUH?
I wanst insulting you.
Im just showing what to expect.


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Re: Nilla's Scraping PF Tek Experiment [Re: nilla]
    #8585862 - 07/01/08 11:43 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I know that. I was neither insulted, nor suggesting you intended to do so. Peace.


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Re: Nilla's Scraping PF Tek Experiment [Re: Mad River]
    #8585875 - 07/01/08 11:49 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Nilla was rubbing his fuzzy cake in your face. LOL

I think some of our terminology is borderline insane. Go up to a friend and ask them how long it takes their cakes to get fuzzy or what is their average cake birth time.


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Re: Nilla's Scraping PF Tek Experiment [Re: HoleSnype]
    #8585884 - 07/01/08 11:52 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

That is very true. I've told only one friend of mine about this hobby, and when I explain my techniques to him he laughs and says it sounds like I'm speaking in code or a foreign language, LOL! :crazy2:


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Re: Nilla's Scraping PF Tek Experiment [Re: Mad River]
    #8585981 - 07/02/08 12:13 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

HolySnype, I got this mental image of me asking the CIO, "So, how long does it take for your cakes to get fuzzy?" and just had to laugh.

I might even try this tomorrow...people look at me like I'm crazy anyway!!!


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Re: Nilla's Scraping PF Tek Experiment [Re: Hattori Hanzo]
    #8586014 - 07/02/08 12:20 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

lol,,funny shit!


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Re: Nilla's Scraping PF Tek Experiment [Re: HoleSnype]
    #8586953 - 07/02/08 09:48 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

HoleSnype said:
I think some of our terminology is borderline insane.




:rofl2:

So true! Hahahahaha


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Re: Nilla's Scraping PF Tek Experiment [Re: wisp]
    #8587064 - 07/02/08 11:00 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

MMMMMMmmmmmmm......  Fuzzy:crazy2:


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Re: Nilla's Scraping PF Tek Experiment [Re: Humbled]
    #8587148 - 07/02/08 11:49 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

might i ask?.. wtf is the point of this other than a bunch of beginners bouncing around pointless ideas

why the hell would you scrape a cake? why would you leave the uncolonized verm?

all it takes it running your cake under water from the tap and using your fingers to remove any uncolonized areas

cakes aren't hard. you just have to read.


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Re: Nilla's Scraping PF Tek Experiment [Re: anarchOi]
    #8587173 - 07/02/08 11:57 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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might i ask?.. wtf is the point of this other than a bunch of beginners bouncing around pointless ideas

why the hell would you scrape a cake? why would you leave the uncolonized verm?

all it takes it running your cake under water from the tap and using your fingers to remove any uncolonized areas

cakes aren't hard. you just have to read.




Nilla's results from his experiment can't be denied, so they're being tested. I mean - there is the PFTek standard that we all willingly abide by, but that doesn't mean we can't experiment. Because that's right, cakes are easy - and easy to experiment with also, so it's less of a point of why, but rather why not...?
It's good to try out new ideas. And maybe by making the mycelia feel "threatened", by said scraping, will yield new and interesting results.


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