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psylopsycho
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20 Gal Long Aquarium Terrarium
#8567931 - 06/26/08 05:41 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Can anyone link me to a good tek for using a 20 gal aquarium as the fruiting chamber. I really need some good info on this. I want my first run to be a success. Thanks in advance for any help given.
-------------------- Someone actually said: "some 1 told me to try long brown rice and water and vermiculite and pressure cook for 1 hour i did but nothing happen that is y was wonting to no if i need spores ""
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Re: 20 Gal Long Aquarium Terrarium [Re: psylopsycho]
#8567934 - 06/26/08 05:42 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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WWWWWWWWell....
Do you plan on fruiting cakes whole on perlite or do you plan on casing them?
I think one could figure this out if they simply answered the above question ^^^
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Re: 20 Gal Long Aquarium Terrarium [Re: psylopsycho]
#8567990 - 06/26/08 05:57 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Buy a tank hood for your terrarium. Depending on your tank you might have to set it up differently but will work overall. I have done this with a 30 gallon and 10 gallon. So buy the tank hood for your terrarium, the kind for fish that covers all top. Get an air pump, run hose into terrarium that has layer of perlite on bottom into a container with water, i use an extra jar, and stick it in corner. Get a lamp with a full spectrum light bulb 40 watt or less unless you want heat from the lamp, 40 still gives off alot. There you go, make sure to fan it out twice to three times a day. If your tank SUCKS ASS like my 30 gallon and the lid doesnt go directly on the tank and sit by itself, you may need to do some taping, and dont believe grey tape when it says its good against weathering, they lie!
End Result : Tank and hood, damp layer of perlite on bottom, with jar in corner of tank filled with water, Air pump running into jar, lamp above tank not on tank too much heat, get that baby plugged in lets go. OH yeah, and i used a personal fan from Lowes hardware to fan it out, bout 8 inch diameter cost 9 dollars.
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psylopsycho
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Well to be completely honest. I was planning on just fruiting the cakes whole on perlite. So that would be what I was looking for.
On second hand, I was thinking now of using a casing tek of some sort to produce a bigger yield from half of the cakes. being as how I am super new to this, I am kind of intimidated by the casing thing. Is casing really as hard as it sounds? And should I just stick with the cakes the first time around?
-------------------- Someone actually said: "some 1 told me to try long brown rice and water and vermiculite and pressure cook for 1 hour i did but nothing happen that is y was wonting to no if i need spores ""
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Re: 20 Gal Long Aquarium Terrarium [Re: psylopsycho]
#8568010 - 06/26/08 06:01 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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If I were a first timer, introduced into the world of casing.
I would probably be casing some BRF/Verm cakes WHOLE in STRAIGHT Vermiculite. As for the 20 gallon aquarium, take some measurements, width and length, find some baking trays that will fit into those specs nicely.. or you could probably just use the 20 Gall as a monotub type of setup, but instead of spawning to something else, simply case the BRF/Verm cakes WHOLE in straight Verm. As long as you line the bottom with foil or trash bag, should have no problems at all.
That's just me though.
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Re: 20 Gal Long Aquarium Terrarium [Re: psylopsycho]
#8568043 - 06/26/08 06:07 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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just to let you know using an aquarium will make it very heavy and shitty to move around and clean, and everything else. i use one and i wish i had something else.
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I'd stick with cakes to learn the life cycle of the mushrooms with the least chance of failure.
Aquariums are hard to get good air exchange. Aquarium pumps are for fish, not mushrooms. If you're determined to use an aquarium, I'd suggest laying it on its side, with a clear plexiglass cover for the open end, and don't seal it tight.
I think you'll have better luck with the shotgun terrarium tek mainly because air exchange is so much better, and air exchange is the number 1 pinning trigger, and also the number 1 contamination prevention measure. RR
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Re: 20 Gal Long Aquarium Terrarium [Re: psylopsycho]
#8568110 - 06/26/08 06:21 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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lol is RR ever not pushing the shotgun tek? ;p
Yeah there isnt great air exchange but the tank is what we are working with, the fish pump creates air flow within tank and will circulate along with adding humidity.
But yeah caking is good for seeing the cycle and such but you will be pissed after trying a casing and saying to yourself "damn why didn't I do this from the start"
RC baby.
Edited by blindguy114 (06/26/08 06:23 PM)
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psylopsycho
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Re: 20 Gal Long Aquarium Terrarium [Re: blindguy114]
#8568136 - 06/26/08 06:28 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Anyone know where exactly to find a tek on casing my cakes?
-------------------- Someone actually said: "some 1 told me to try long brown rice and water and vermiculite and pressure cook for 1 hour i did but nothing happen that is y was wonting to no if i need spores ""
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Re: 20 Gal Long Aquarium Terrarium [Re: blindguy114]
#8568239 - 06/26/08 06:53 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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get sphagnum peat moss, not the shit in pieces but in a fine soil, mix that with verm and get 50/50 mix. sterilize that in jars like you did your substrate originally. Get a tray, tuppaware, bakeware, w/e your using and put a layer of verm on bottom of tray, spray until moist, and microwave for 10 minutes, leave there until cool takes 2 hours usually. Take out, crumble your substrate into semi small pieces across bottom, you want a thick layer of colonized substrate 4:1 of your compost for casing. spread the pressure cooked 50/50 mix on top so you get nice inch layer if your using say 4 inch layer of colonized substrate.
^ your link to tek ^
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Re: 20 Gal Long Aquarium Terrarium [Re: blindguy114]
#8568347 - 06/26/08 07:22 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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You don't case the bottom, and microwaves are horrible for mycology unless it's brand new. You also don't sterilize casing mix because it's much more susceptible to contamination if sterilized. That's why we pasteurize casing and substrate mixes.
There's actually little to be gained by casing pf cakes. They're already 2/3 vermiculite. They make nice spawn to bulk substrates, or fruited as cakes. You'll rarely get more total product from cased cakes as from using the dunk and roll tek and fruiting them for a few flushes as cakes. RR
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psylopsycho
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Re: 20 Gal Long Aquarium Terrarium [Re: RogerRabbit]
#8568533 - 06/26/08 08:05 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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I guess I should reword my question. Where can i go to read about getting started with bulk substrates?..
-------------------- Someone actually said: "some 1 told me to try long brown rice and water and vermiculite and pressure cook for 1 hour i did but nothing happen that is y was wonting to no if i need spores ""
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