However you mention "dune grass" now unless Astoria's soil is sterile, I imagine there are a bunch of little buggers living along with that dune grass that go by the name of actinomyces.... and if there are well then get this...

While they are decomposing animal and vegetable matter, actinomycetes liberate carbon, nitrogen and ammonia, making nutrients available for higher plants. They are found on every natural substrate, and the majority are aerobic and mesophilic. Five percent or more of the soil's bacterial population is comprised of actinomycetes.

I fully understand that azurescens is a "wood decomposer" that's way I say it requires a casing layer with a high N:C ratio to induce fruiting, unlike compost loving species that favor a high C:N ratio.

I'm suggesting that the carbon to nitrogen ratio plays a key role in the initiation of pinning and primordia formation.... this would explain why mushrooms usually form once the entire substrate has colonized...

I'm not suggesting the dune grass is saturated with ammonia. I'm suggesting the mycelium can sense the C:N & N:C shift in the substrate and that's how they know the substrate is running out of nutrients. Instinct then kicks in and that's how they know it's time to go dormant, fornicate or die.

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Personally I don't have any experience with the azurescens mushroom.

I've just been doing alot of research lately and I've been focusing on the C:N ratios of various substrates. I think 'maybe' this plays some sorta role in fruit initiation and was wondering if anyone else ever bothered to look at the C:N ratios of various substrates and there effect upon growth and/or fruiting.

It seems the C:N ratio of woodchips ranges from 500-100:1, green foliage ranges from 80-30:1 and straw is about 100-40:1. It just seems to me that a layer of grass ontop of wood chips creates to distinct nutritional zones.

Azurescens could very well bee right, I was just throwing out an idea.

Congratulations on fruiting the semilanceata, serbica and baeocystis indoors! Where did you get these rare cultures and did you take any photos?

i have at the moment azures, bohemica, baeocystis and cyanes in the fridge....hmmm i just fruited the azures indoors 2 times...

BiO.

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camel

Another reason I am quite certain you are doing a little fibbing here is that you say "you didn't think it was worth taking a picture of only a couple of fruits". Well, I find that hard to believe considering that "those couple of fruits" happen to be fruits of a species that nobody else seems to be able to cultivate at all indoors.

It would be like me saying "Well I grew a Pan Cyan with a 10" wide cap, but since it was the only one that popped up, I figured it wasnt worth the time for me to take a picture of it" Just nonsense.

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camel

i smell something behind zappo!!!!

BiO.

Gartz did it. Granted it was diffuclt and very low yielding but he did do it.

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camel

aaaaaaahhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!

and this were not the only he fruited ....another attempt on compost also frutificated

BiO.

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camel

here another fruiting of semis on dungcompost(aged, the compost is more like soil than a compost you would use for cubes...also the PH should be slightly in the sour range)

BiO.

you see only on the above pic that the semis were building little sclerotia....but none on the straight compost...