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linux dual boot transfer files b/w??
    #8565176 - 06/26/08 01:05 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

is there a way to dual boot a server adn a linux distro and easily or automatically transfer files b/w them??  also is it possible to keep the server running while using other OS??  thanks


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Re: linux dual boot transfer files b/w?? [Re: the man]
    #8565205 - 06/26/08 01:17 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

should i format the discs to FAT32    what is the disadvantage to that format?


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Re: linux dual boot transfer files b/w?? [Re: the man]
    #8565471 - 06/26/08 04:09 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

> what is the disadvantage to that format?

It is slow, clumsy, and does not support ACLs (access control lists, security permissions, etc)

Oh, and the spec put out by Microsoft is also buggy.  They say "whatever you do, never ever calculate this value using these fields" and then go on to show example code that does exactly what they said never to do.  This happens again and again throughout their paper.  Almost every FAT32 filesystem implementation is buggy, especially at the edges.  In the spec, Microsoft recommends placing artificial limits (pretend the disk is smaller) to avoid the "edge conditions" that are usually buggy in most implementations.  (Microsoft- ignore the problem and pretend it isn't there rather than fix it... the Monopoly at work.)


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Re: linux dual boot transfer files b/w?? [Re: Seuss]
    #8565505 - 06/26/08 05:00 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Well, in their defence, they ignored the problem because they had a much better filesystem (NTFS) - they've been discouraging FAT32 use for a while now. You can't even format a drive for FAT32 in XP. And good riddance, it's slow and buggy as you said.

...but still very compatible. It has its uses.


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Re: linux dual boot transfer files b/w?? [Re: zouden]
    #8565621 - 06/26/08 06:45 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

> they ignored the problem because they had a much better filesystem

No, they ignored the problem because they wanted competition's software to remain buggy.  The problem is in the spec for FAT based filesystems which was released long before NTFS came around.

> ...but still very compatible. It has its uses.

Certainly.  It is the most widely supported cross-platform filesystem.  However, one has to be careful with it as well as it doesn't support all types of files.  (I've seen both Apple and NTFS files get corrupted when copied to a FAT filesystem as the copy drops the parts of the file (resource forks, etc) that are not supported by FAT.)  As you said, still has its uses.


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Re: linux dual boot transfer files b/w?? [Re: the man]
    #8565780 - 06/26/08 08:06 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I use ufs to format my networked drives.  I set up an old computer with 4hdd in it, and installed freeNAS, it is like 32mb and very feature rich.  I formatted all my drives to its recommended file system which is UFS.  I can connect to the server with both my linux box and my windows machines, as well as set up a dlna server for my ps3 to access it.  I also think there is a NFS which may be a good format to go with, I definitely would NOT go with either fat32 or ntfs.  There is also a driver for EXT file systems in windows, if you go with this, get EXT3, since it has a journaling system for possible data recovery.

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Re: linux dual boot transfer files b/w?? [Re: supra]
    #8565829 - 06/26/08 08:28 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

> I also think there is a NFS which may be a good format to go with

NFS is a transfer protocol, not a filesystem type.  (Much the same way samba/CIFS is a transfer protocol for the various MS filesystems/devices.)

> since it has a journaling system for possible data recovery.

Journal filesystems have little to nothing to do with data recovery.  Instead, they help minimize filesystem corruption on power loss making the boot process faster as the drives do not have to be checked for corruption after an unsafe shutdown.  On the down side, there is extra overhead on every filesystem write, as the journal must be updated as well.


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Re: linux dual boot transfer files b/w?? [Re: Seuss]
    #8567772 - 06/26/08 05:05 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

anyone on my original question. 

want to easily access my media via the net
want to be able to use torrents.
thats all i really need and not a lengthy set up  maybe just soem software not a new OS?


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Re: linux dual boot transfer files b/w?? [Re: the man]
    #8568174 - 06/26/08 06:36 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

> is there a way to dual boot a server adn a linux distro and easily or automatically transfer files b/w them??

Yes, when you boot into linux you will be able to mount your windows based filesystems no problem.

With newer distributions it even lets you write to them.

> also is it possible to keep the server running while using other OS??  thanks

Yes, use vmware.

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Re: linux dual boot transfer files b/w?? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #8568205 - 06/26/08 06:45 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

great thanks. will i be able to access the files on the other OS through if using FTP server such as freeNAS? just have to make sure they are detected by the server OS? will there be much problems with teh format of teh discs??  if so i thought i heard somewere you can reformat without loosing data?????    thanks guys


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Re: linux dual boot transfer files b/w?? [Re: the man]
    #8569683 - 06/27/08 01:50 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I get the impression you think this is way harder than it really is. Why the heck are you using FTP?!

Everything will be much easier if you can answer these questions:
1. What are you going to stream your media to?
2. What OS are you most familiar with?


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Re: linux dual boot transfer files b/w?? [Re: zouden]
    #8570328 - 06/27/08 08:50 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

stream media just to other computers.

OS X but know windows ok


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Re: linux dual boot transfer files b/w?? [Re: the man]
    #8572307 - 06/27/08 08:03 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

You don't need a special OS, just enable file sharing in windows, or whatever the OS X equivalent is.

I've got a dedicated box set up for it, running windows, with a bunch of hard drives installed and uTorrent to download TV shows. I can access the files from any computer on the network including my xbox.
Couldn't be easier.


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Re: linux dual boot transfer files b/w?? [Re: zouden]
    #8572487 - 06/27/08 08:59 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

ya i can do that already but i want to access them off of my LAN.

ie watch at a friends house


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Re: linux dual boot transfer files b/w?? [Re: the man]
    #8572700 - 06/27/08 10:00 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Oh you mean over the internet?? Why didn't you say so? There's software to do this: Orb.


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Re: linux dual boot transfer files b/w?? [Re: zouden]
    #8572849 - 06/27/08 10:57 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

is it cross platform namely OS X?? thanks


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Re: linux dual boot transfer files b/w?? [Re: the man]
    #8573102 - 06/28/08 12:42 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Looks like it's Windows only. But it's free and open source, which is good.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orb_(software)


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