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Medical Pot Ineffective as Acute Pain Treatment
    #8559504 - 06/24/08 06:56 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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Oral cannabis (a form of medical marijuana) was ineffective in treating certain types of acute pain and actually increased sensitivity to some other kinds of discomfort, say researchers at the Medical University of Vienna, Austria.

Their study included 18 healthy women who were given oral cannabis or a placebo. The women were then evaluated for heat and electrical pain thresholds in skin areas that had induced sunburn. This is an accepted method of assessing response to acute pain.

"The surprising result of our study was the absence of any kind of analgesic activity of THC-standardized cannabis extract on experimentally induced pain using well-established human model procedures," study author Dr. Birgit Kraft said in a prepared statement. "Our results also seem to support the impression that high doses of cannabinoids may even cause increased sensitivity in certain pain conditions."

The study is published in the July issue of the journal Anesthesiology.

Previous research has suggested that cannabis and tetrahydrocannabinol (THC -- the main psychoactive component of marijuana) may help ease chronic pain in cancer patients, spinal cord injury patients, and people with multiple sclerosis. There have been inconsistent findings about the effects on acute pain.

This new study's findings about oral cannabis and acute pain are seemingly conclusive, according to the researchers.

"From comparisons with previous clinical data, the lack of pain relief from the cannabis dosage and oral administration in our study cannot be considered the result of inadequate dosage or insufficient intestinal absorption," Kraft said. "The high levels of THC detected in the blood of our subjects as well as the occurrence of typical THC side effects argue for sufficient availability, and thus we draw the conclusion that THC was not effective in treating acute pain."

However, cannabis may remain a viable treatment option for certain types of chronic pain.

"Pain is a very complex and subjective phenomena," Kraft said. "Chronic pain has not only been shown to lead to changes in peripheral and central neural processing, but also to be associated with psychosocial problems, physical disorders, and functional disabilities. Recent studies have indicated that cannabis can be effective in treating certain types of chronic pain and helping patients to cope by improving quality of life."


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Re: Medical Pot Ineffective as Acute Pain Treatment [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #8560130 - 06/24/08 09:19 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Marijuana has never helped me with my pain problems, for some reason.. in fact sometimes it makes things even worse. I don't doubt that it helps many people though, because I have an unusual experience with marijuana in general..


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Re: Medical Pot Ineffective as Acute Pain Treatment [Re: Adamist]
    #8560162 - 06/24/08 09:26 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

It's not a pain reliever. It's a relaxer.

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Re: Medical Pot Ineffective as Acute Pain Treatment [Re: dumbfounded1600]
    #8560183 - 06/24/08 09:35 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Well some people with certain chronic pain issues swear that marijuana works better than opiates for relieving their pain... I don't doubt it, because marijuana affects everyone differently. For example many people say it makes them sleepy, when it does the opposite to me. I can NOT sleep while I'm high, it's absolutely impossible because my mind is going a mile a minute.


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Re: Medical Pot Ineffective as Acute Pain Treatment [Re: Adamist]
    #8560192 - 06/24/08 09:39 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I have cronic spinal cord pain from a series of several injuries and pot has been the only thing ever to ease my pain and allow me to operate normally.


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Re: Medical Pot Ineffective as Acute Pain Treatment [Re: TheShroomJew23]
    #8560239 - 06/24/08 09:49 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

were they give marinol, or given bud to smoke cause marinol does about jack shit, and idk if marijuana relieves pain but it makes u forget about it, lol

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Re: Medical Pot Ineffective as Acute Pain Treatment [Re: dumbfounded1600]
    #8560703 - 06/25/08 12:05 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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dumbfounded1600 said:
It's not a pain reliever. It's a relaxer.




Exactly, its not hard to figure this out hope they didn't waste to much money on this study all they would have had to do is smoke a jay and pinch themselves, what smart scientists

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Re: Medical Pot Ineffective as Acute Pain Treatment [Re: JMR]
    #8561117 - 06/25/08 02:38 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

18 people who dont recieve the same benefits as others must represent the entire MJ smoking community, we must just be stupid and huritng


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Re: Medical Pot Ineffective as Acute Pain Treatment [Re: j0nnyb0y05]
    #8561147 - 06/25/08 03:02 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Medical pot is good for giving appetites to cancer and aids patients.

In Canada the government weed is so bad......fuck I could grow better skunk with a blind fold.  They ask for expert growers and give them immunity, but they dont pay nearly enough for good growers to join.

free market pot is best for now


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Re: Medical Pot Ineffective as Acute Pain Treatment [Re: Irishdrunk]
    #8561326 - 06/25/08 05:32 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Cannabis extract might not be as good in all cases as opiates for pain relief? It's clear we need to ban it harder like in the UK.


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Re: Medical Pot Ineffective as Acute Pain Treatment [Re: JMR]
    #8561737 - 06/25/08 09:27 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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JMR said:
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dumbfounded1600 said:
It's not a pain reliever. It's a relaxer.




Exactly, its not hard to figure this out hope they didn't waste to much money on this study all they would have had to do is smoke a jay and pinch themselves, what smart scientists




i agree, thats pathetic that they didn't know that.....don't like oatmeal?


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Re: Medical Pot Ineffective as Acute Pain Treatment [Re: Invisible_Woe]
    #8561832 - 06/25/08 10:03 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

The physiological effects of marijuana do not mimick those of an analgesic; the point of smoking THC to ease acute pain is so the mind is not focused on the pain.  The "biting the bullet" technique has been used on battlefields for centuries, and marijuana's means of blocking pain work the same way.  The pain signal will be equally intense whether someone is smoking marijuana or not; however, pain is much more tolerable while high.

But I guess this study is suggesting that we should abandon any marijuana-related research and dope these women up using pharmaceutical heroin.  Even though heroin/morphine would make a better analgesic, the benefits do not outweigh the risks.  Being an American who hold the inaleinable right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, I believe that these researchers are invading my right to pursue happiness and therefore can go fist themselves.


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Re: Medical Pot Ineffective as Acute Pain Treatment [Re: Adamist]
    #8561881 - 06/25/08 10:23 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

i knew smoking weed eased pain all along


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Re: Medical Pot Ineffective as Acute Pain Treatment [Re: alphabeatu]
    #8562155 - 06/25/08 11:36 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

"This new study's findings about oral cannabis and acute pain are seemingly conclusive, according to the researchers."

What a conclusive study, 18 healthy females. Ignore the all people with aids, cancer, MS, or who happen to be male, these 18 healthy females PROVED no one needs medical pot.

Who gives these morons grants, seriously, what a waste of scientific effort.


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Re: Medical Pot Ineffective as Acute Pain Treatment [Re: skateordont]
    #8562186 - 06/25/08 11:42 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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skateordont said:

What a conclusive study, 18 healthy females. Ignore the all people with aids, cancer, MS, or who happen to be male, these 18 healthy females PROVED no one needs medical pot.

Who gives these morons grants, seriously, what a waste of scientific effort.




Perhaps this was the point?  It's an interesting finding if marijuana alleviates particular types of pain, in particular conditions, but not others.  The obvious next question is "why"?

It's an interesting question and some would think a worthy scientific endeavor. 

This work probably has little to do with the crusade (either for or against) smoking marijuana.


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...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

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