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Re: Poll: do aborts give you a different trip? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4501166 - 08/05/05 08:27 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Re I call BS,

Heres your proof and thanks for the hearty welcome, you are a brainy smurf indeed. Couldn't you just say rather than "I call BS" something like "please post some further information". Or has all civility disappeared from the net.







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Re: Poll: do aborts give you a different trip? [Re: Atman]
    #4501251 - 08/05/05 08:55 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Civility? On the Internet? What are you talking about?


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Re: Poll: do aborts give you a different trip? [Re: harpd]
    #4501921 - 08/06/05 12:32 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I called BS on him, not you, why should I be civil to the guy who wrote it.

And I still call BS, notice he says THEORY. And notice how its based ONLY on the bluer part of the mushroom.


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Re: Poll: do aborts give you a different trip? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4502478 - 08/06/05 02:24 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I will take your response to be that you are questioning CB Golds' findings and not being rude to me. (at least I hope that is the case). Sorry if I was overly sensitive.

Yes it is a only a THEORY explaining why smaller mushrooms are stronger.

What is not disputable is that Christiansen & Rasmussen's finding of increased potency of psilocybin etc from the smaller shroom specimens. These guys are respected reasearchers in their fields.

Thats what I find to be interesting. Look it may not be the case for other species (ie cubensis), but for the liberties it appears to be so.


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Re: Poll: do aborts give you a different trip? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #5464901 - 03/31/06 07:41 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

scatmanrav said:
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trainboy55 said:
isn't that like saying THC is THC? i don't know many pot smokers who would agree that 'weed is weed'.








Not at ALL. Mushrooms are a fungus that produces (in simple terms) by replicating. Mushrooms are made up of the mycelium they grow from, exactly the same. You can cut a peice of mushroom tissue, the smallest speck you cant see, and shoot it into grain and you'll grow clones of that mushroom. Try sticking a peice of bud into soil and see what it gets you. Your comparing plant to animal.

I split my harvest, and keep aborts seperate, and I can tell you after dozens of people trying aborts and fully mature mushrooms, and anywhere in between, that there is no correlation to the size of the mushroom, and its potency. All these rumors come from people trying desparatly to find a way to tell by looking at the shroom if its good or not..does it have a closed cap, is it blue, what size it is, blah blah blah. NONE of it means SQUAT. You cant tell a single thing for sure about a mushroom by looking at it (extreme cases not included).
Gone through a number of piles that look like this in my time growing:


BUT I also believe anything you believe can greatly effect the trip, so if you really believe itll be stonger, then you'll feel it more and it will. That doesnt mean theres more chemicals, just your brain is more open to recieve everything, IMO.




hey can you pm me a pic of that bong if you have any from what i can see it looks almost exactly tyhe same as mine almost heh nice pile of shrooms.. damn i wish i had shrooms out the wazoo like that.


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Re: Poll: do aborts give you a different trip? [Re: MrMolotov]
    #5465006 - 03/31/06 08:07 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

All I know is that smaller mushrooms have more alk than bigger ones per gram.
Aborts may be a different story, but im sure they are damn good, I have tried them and they are atleast as good as you would expect. Per gram, they work just fine.


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Re: Poll: do aborts give you a different trip? [Re: demigodz72]
    #5466040 - 04/01/06 02:42 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

i ate two grams of aborts once and was very suprised at how strong of a trip it was. but it could've been my expectations of the trip. this is something that will be argued about for the rest of shroom-cult existence.


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Re: Poll: do aborts give you a different trip? [Re: shafty]
    #5466903 - 04/01/06 11:44 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

The only way you can find out is testing it right?  Whoever grows on here.... Grow some and pick all the aborts and weigh it... take the aborts and journal your trip... Then weigh out the normal ones to the same size and eat them the following week.... That should clear things up a little :wink:.

But I also believe what a few others have said.  If you think the Aborts are 10x more potent you are going to have a 10x more trip.


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Re: Poll: do aborts give you a different trip? [Re: time2]
    #5475069 - 04/03/06 05:24 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Well, THC is always THC (9-Delta-Tetrahydrocannabinol).
And that's the main stuff that makes weed so sweeeeet. Other substances present, like cannabinols, cannabidiols, other terpenoids and oils just contribute to certain extent to the taste, smoke and effects of weed.
And same may quite possibly apply to shrooms as well: different psilocybin/psilocin ratio, presence of baeocystin or nor-baeocystin, maybe even the thickness of chytine cell walls may be responsible for strength and character of the experience.
And if one is not an orthodox scientist, he may even go further to different DNA and different million-years genetic memories even within the colonies of the same strain.
Shrooms are very mystical. Nobody knows much about them. There is a lot of research to be done yet. I'm planning to undertake one in the near future and get some first-hand information.

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Re: Poll: do aborts give you a different trip? [Re: Atman]
    #5476129 - 04/03/06 09:12 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

yeah i wouldnt quote that source - that is almost like quiting McKenna's inergalactic spore-travel theory...
Some people are certain that aborts are more potent - i dont necessarily think that is the case but until someone does a proper study to determine when the most alkaloids are converted in the life cycle of the mushroom its hard to say.
There are many more serotonin -like alkaloids in Psilocybe mushrooms other than your normal psilocybin/psilocin/baeocystin - but whether these have any effect is unknown.
I do believe that substrate has a big part in it though - tripping on woodlovers is a very difference experience tripping on dung lovers.


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Re: Poll: do aborts give you a different trip? [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #5476381 - 04/03/06 10:04 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

What is true, is that small mushrooms are more potent than the larger ones. Im not too sure about aborts. All I know is that they work just about the same as any size....


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Re: Poll: do aborts give you a different trip? [Re: stemmer]
    #5476522 - 04/03/06 10:38 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Poll: do aborts give you a different trip? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #10596502 - 06/30/09 09:30 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Im not an expert on this but where as humans develop cells as we grow mushrooms already have 100% but they just swell to make the shroom grow so i wonder whether its small but still has the same potency as if it were big??


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Re: Poll: do aborts give you a different trip? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #10643588 - 07/08/09 09:07 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

welp, just downed a ton of aborts so here's hoping! :eek:


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