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    #8559174 - 06/24/08 05:09 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

mkay first off, props to ralph for expedient and discreet service!
got my spores today and just finished jarring up the BRF cakes in 1/2 pint jars.

how big of a factor is sterility before any pressure cooker use?
i wore some gloves and wiped off the sides of the top of the jars before closing, and have rubbing alcohol to sterilize things if necessary.

any chance the PC will blow up my jars?
i know but i've never used one before.. help!

i haven't even opend the spore box, but i won't till the jars are sterilized..

so excited for this~!
gonna pick a quick colonizer to get started :laugh:


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Re: omgot all my stuff ready... final prep questions everybody! [Re: wishywashy]
    #8559193 - 06/24/08 05:14 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

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how big of a factor is sterility before any pressure cooker use?
i wore some gloves and wiped off the sides of the top of the jars before closing, and have rubbing alcohol to sterilize things if necessary.




Its not all that important, you know you are pressure cooking them.. :wink:  Some people take more precautions than others.  My buddy takes very little precaution prior to pressure cooking.   

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any chance the PC will blow up my jars?




Not unless you had them at some astronimical numbers like 100 psi for 2 hours or something.
They will be fine at 15psi.  Make sure to raise them off the bottom of the cooker.


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Re: omgot all my stuff ready... final prep questions everybody! [Re: wishywashy]
    #8559202 - 06/24/08 05:17 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

As long as you don't put a ridiculously intense flame to the pressure cooker the jars will be fine.Pf tek for simple minds

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Re: omgot all my stuff ready... final prep questions everybody! [Re: echoesSG]
    #8559218 - 06/24/08 05:22 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

k i got a rack that came with the PC. it don't have a pressure-ometer though! that's the scary part... what would the public recommend?


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Re: omgot all my stuff ready... final prep questions everybody! [Re: wishywashy]
    #8559254 - 06/24/08 05:36 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Follow your pressure cookers instructions...And to correct someone above yes they can blowup even when followed properly. Loosen the lids of your jars lightly, and cover with tin foil to keep the water from leaking through the rim.


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Re: omgot all my stuff ready... final prep questions everybody! [Re: wishywashy]
    #8559261 - 06/24/08 05:39 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

The thought of PC'ing without a "pressure-ometer" (pressure gauge) is kinda scary to me. Does it have a relief valve? Worse case scenario, is the relief valve is out-of-cal and fails, and your seal blows.

Still, I wouldn't mess with it.


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Re: omgot all my stuff ready... final prep questions everybody! [Re: HoleSnype]
    #8559283 - 06/24/08 05:49 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

My gram pressure cooked jellies and meats and whatnot her whole life with an old style pressure cooker. No dials, no gadgets just a pop off valve. Guess what? She never blew up anything. Yes, a jar will pop now and then, but its the nature of pressure cooking. Make sure the lids are on upside down so they cant seal and caps are loose and if it bugs you, grab an oven mitt, and pull the popoff when you hear it boiling. If it steams your good. They really arent as dangerous as one would think, but like anything else, common sense rules and err on the side of caution.

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Re: omgot all my stuff ready... final prep questions everybody! [Re: PIrg]
    #8559370 - 06/24/08 06:23 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Here is a solution. Forget the pressure cooker and boil the jars. BRF jars do not need to be pressure cooked. If you follow the methods on the "Lets grow mushrooms" videos on youtube, the success rate is very high.

You only need a PC for grains, WBS, and things like that.

Look up the lets grow mushroom videos on youtube. You will be surprised how easy it is.


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Re: omgot all my stuff ready... final prep questions everybody! [Re: HoleSnype]
    #8559482 - 06/24/08 06:52 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Guys, this is not like handling Potassium metal where you have to be so damn careful not to have it spontaneously com-bust in your face.  If you have a pressure cooker, USE IT!  Boiling is "acceptable" with the PF tek, not "prefered".  It would be a down right shame to leave that resource out of the cultivating process.  STERILITY IS GOLDEN in this hobby.  If you don't have the instructions for your PC, then GOOGLE THE DAMN THING.  It's out there.  If your PC doesn't have a pressure gauge, then it probably has weights to adjust pressure.  If it's the "rocker" type of weights, then it's 5psi with no rings on, 10psi with one ring on, and 15psi with 2 rings on.  Either way, google it.

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Re: omgot all my stuff ready... final prep questions everybody! [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #8559540 - 06/24/08 07:04 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

If the guy is worried about using his PC, he should boil them. I highly recommend that he does what he is comfortable with. Boiling is highly succesful for PF jars.

All in all, it's the same damned thing. The only difference is a PC boils hotter because the pressure keeps the water from flashing into steam. 212 degrees is more than enough to sterilize a pf jar.


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Re: omgot all my stuff ready... final prep questions everybody! [Re: HoleSnype]
    #8559620 - 06/24/08 07:23 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Everyone is right in this matter, but for that one person where it explodes they will wish they had never fucking done something stupid. I take the rubber seal off of mine, and pressure cook. It does just fine, and I never have to worry about too much pressure but serves its purpose. I did that after learning the hard way.


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Re: omgot all my stuff ready... final prep questions everybody! [Re: MHbound]
    #8559748 - 06/24/08 07:51 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

It`s good to "test drive" a pressure cooker before using it for real..so you don`t get scared or something if you never used it before. Just read through this -> http://www.fungifun.org/English/Pressure-Cooker-Use

But anyway it can really be scary. I have a PC, it`s was unused util recently but it isn`t anything special, it`s just a cooker with no gauges and stuff, all metal. It bursts like hell when pressurized, you don`t wanna be near it. It`s so agressive. Its like I`m having an insane dog in my kitchen :smile: Also don`t touch it with hands if you have a PC like me.

If you suspect that something is going wrong just turn off the heat and wait until it cools down.

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Re: omgot all my stuff ready... final prep questions everybody! [Re: blackclw]
    #8561510 - 06/25/08 07:42 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

whoops.. left my cake jars out over night! how does this bode for my jars?


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Re: omgot all my stuff ready... final prep questions everybody! [Re: wishywashy]
    #8561512 - 06/25/08 07:43 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

You need to be more specific. Either way, one night isn't going to hurt anything.


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Re: omgot all my stuff ready... final prep questions everybody! [Re: HoleSnype]
    #8567868 - 06/26/08 05:24 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

are the sterilized BRF cakes supposed to smell like something? they smell lik  kind of burnt rice i'm not sure, but the jars are still intact. i PC'd them for about an hour with 5 1/2 pint jars around 4:30 today. it's now 7:30. when's good to innoc? i wanna do it tonite :laugh:


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Re: omgot all my stuff ready... final prep questions everybody! [Re: wishywashy]
    #8567883 - 06/26/08 05:28 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

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are the sterilized BRF cakes supposed to smell like something? they smell lik  kind of burnt rice i'm not sure, but the jars are still intact. i PC'd them for about an hour with 5 1/2 pint jars around 4:30 today. it's now 7:30. when's good to innoc? i wanna do it tonite :laugh:




They will kinda of smell like a cooked substrate.. really a kind of weird smell if you're not familiar, it might even trick your nose into believing its a "bad smell" but I assure you its not.  An hour is not necessary, however, they will be fine.  I prefer 45mins or so.

I would let them cool for another 2-3 hours and inoculate those bad boys.  (MAKE SURE the glass of the jars are cool to the touch)

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Re: omgot all my stuff ready... final prep questions everybody! [Re: wishywashy]
    #8567893 - 06/26/08 05:32 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

rite! for my first ever innoc will be B+. got 2 of them from ralph. couple hours from now i will come to u guys for step by step sterile innoc instructions :smile: i'm more confident when the shroomery holds my hand through things like this lol


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Re: omgot all my stuff ready... final prep questions everybody! [Re: wishywashy]
    #8567929 - 06/26/08 05:41 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

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i PC'd them for about an hour with 5 1/2 pint jars around 4:30 today. it's now 7:30. when's good to innoc? i wanna do it tonite :laugh:




I've always read to wait overnight to inoculate your PC'd jars. They can feel cool enough, but still be too hot in the middle.  It would suck to be so close to success, only to accidentally cook your spores because you didn't follow instructions!

I just plan on a tomorrow inoculation if I PC today, that way I'm sure my jars are cool enough.  :rockon:


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Re: omgot all my stuff ready... final prep questions everybody! [Re: BrandNewbie]
    #8567994 - 06/26/08 05:58 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

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i PC'd them for about an hour with 5 1/2 pint jars around 4:30 today. it's now 7:30. when's good to innoc? i wanna do it tonite :laugh:




I've always read to wait overnight to inoculate your PC'd jars. They can feel cool enough, but still be too hot in the middle.  It would suck to be so close to success, only to accidentally cook your spores because you didn't follow instructions!

I just plan on a tomorrow inoculation if I PC today, that way I'm sure my jars are cool enough.  :rockon:




Well. I beg to differ, but once the glass of the jars are cool, usually 4-6 hours in my experience(9-10 years.. no im not an expert, just some experience)... they are just fine to inoculate.    So if you "really" want to save 12 hours by innoculating 4-6 hours after pcooking and they have cooled.  I see no problem. 

Nothing wrong with waiting, either. :smile:


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Re: omgot all my stuff ready... final prep questions everybody! [Re: wishywashy]
    #8568075 - 06/26/08 06:12 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

i could just poke my finger in the substrate to see if the middle's hot right?

*edit* jooooooke that's a contam factor lololol */edit*


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