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Re: Analysis: Faked birth certificate suggests Obama may not be US citizen [Re: lonestar2004]
    #8560026 - 06/24/08 08:50 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I honestly dont believe the story at all.  But it is an interesting what if scenario...

What if its discovered he is not native born just before the election... or just after?  Or once he is in office?  hmmm....

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Re: Analysis: Faked birth certificate suggests Obama may not be US citizen [Re: DieCommie]
    #8560041 - 06/24/08 08:54 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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DieCommie said:
I honestly dont believe the story at all.  But it is an interesting what if scenario...

What if its discovered he is not native born just before the election... or just after?  Or once he is in office?  hmmm....





the V.P. pick would be huge.:grin:


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Re: Analysis: Faked birth certificate suggests Obama may not be US citizen [Re: Redstorm]
    #8560262 - 06/24/08 09:55 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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The desperation is amazing. Are you guys THAT afraid that Obama is going to defeat McCain?




What is your objection to Obama providing his birth certificate to the FEC? It is clear that what we've seen so far isn't the real deal. It is - at best - an electronic mockup of it.




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Re: Analysis: Faked birth certificate suggests Obama may not be US citizen [Re: Phred]
    #8560273 - 06/24/08 09:59 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

There is no problem but its also outrageous to state jumping to conclusions because it hasnt already been provided. Maybe Obama isnt a shroomery member and hasnt heard of this outlandish speculation yet. Im sure if he is asked to provide a certified birth certificate it will be provided.

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Re: Analysis: Faked birth certificate suggests Obama may not be US citizen [Re: lonestar2004]
    #8560474 - 06/24/08 11:03 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

This is so fucking crazy.

What an absolutely Republican tactic.

And you morons wonder why everyone thinks you're a bunch of sleaze-balls.

Obama isn't a citizen now?  He forged his birth certificate?  Really?

Redstorm is certainly right.  It reeks of desperation.


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Re: Analysis: Faked birth certificate suggests Obama may not be US citizen [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #8561218 - 06/25/08 04:20 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

> What an absolutely Republican tactic.

I think you mean political tactic.  Pretending that the Republican party is the only one that does this kind of crap is delusional.  Politicians, for the most part, are slime- regardless of political party.  The Democrat party is just as bad as the Republican party at this kind of stuff.


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Re: Analysis: Faked birth certificate suggests Obama may not be US citizen [Re: Seuss]
    #8561598 - 06/25/08 08:28 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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Seuss said:
> What an absolutely Republican tactic.

I think you mean political tactic.  Pretending that the Republican party is the only one that does this kind of crap is delusional.  Politicians, for the most part, are slime- regardless of political party.  The Democrat party is just as bad as the Republican party at this kind of stuff.




I agree that the Democrats are just as bad as the Republicans when it comes to sleazy underhanded tactics.

However it is very typical of the GOP to bring Obama's citizenship into question, and is not something I would see the DNC doing. Let's face it, the GOP gets a lot of votes by pandering to the xenophobic crowd.


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Re: Analysis: Faked birth certificate suggests Obama may not be US citizen [Re: gluke bastid]
    #8561614 - 06/25/08 08:34 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

that's a fair point.

obama's not a real citizen
kerry isn't a real soldier
gore isn't a real human

seems like a recurring theme.


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Re: Analysis: Faked birth certificate suggests Obama may not be US citizen [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #8561826 - 06/25/08 10:01 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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Madtowntripper said:

And you morons wonder why everyone thinks you're a bunch of sleaze-balls.

Obama isn't a citizen now?  He forged his birth certificate?  Really?

Redstorm is certainly right.  It reeks of desperation.





Moron? thats it?

Congratulations to u and afoaf! i expected much more name calling from u two for even questioning the CHOSEN ONE....


Thank You! :happyheart:


At this time I'm not saying that Obama is not a Citizen of the U.S. All I want to know why he has a fake Document on his website!


Why is the man who wants to be The President of United States presenting a fake document on his website as proof of citizenship?

I expect most of you on the Shroomery not to question this Document. (its not surprising.)

IMO THAT FORGED DOCUMENT WOULD NEVER GET PAST THE DEPT. OF MOTOR VEHICLES OR EVEN A LITTLE LEAGUE BASEBALL COACH!


anyway i emailed Drudge last night about the fake Birth Certificate. (nothing yet:grin:)

:paranoid:


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Re: Analysis: Faked birth certificate suggests Obama may not be US citizen [Re: KillerPicklez]
    #8561828 - 06/25/08 10:02 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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KillerPicklez said:
Im sure if he is asked to provide a certified birth certificate it will be provided.





lets wait and see....


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Re: Analysis: Faked birth certificate suggests Obama may not be US citizen [Re: gluke bastid]
    #8561901 - 06/25/08 10:30 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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gluke bastid said:
Quote:

Seuss said:
> What an absolutely Republican tactic.

I think you mean political tactic.  Pretending that the Republican party is the only one that does this kind of crap is delusional.  Politicians, for the most part, are slime- regardless of political party.  The Democrat party is just as bad as the Republican party at this kind of stuff.




I agree that the Democrats are just as bad as the Republicans when it comes to sleazy underhanded tactics.

However it is very typical of the GOP to bring Obama's citizenship into question, and is not something I would see the DNC doing. Let's face it, the GOP gets a lot of votes by pandering to the xenophobic crowd.





The DNC? Just look at what Obama does!

Obama had no problems disqualify ALL his opponents in the Illinois State Senate race in 1996 by challenging all of their petition signatures.



"In his first race for office, seeking a state Senate seat on Chicago's gritty South Side in 1996, Obama effectively used election rules to eliminate his Democratic competition."

As a community organizer, Obama helped register thousands of voters. But when it came time to run for office, he employed Chicago rules to invalidate the voting petition signatures of three of his challengers.

The move denied each of them, including incumbent Alice Palmer, a longtime Chicago activist, a place on the ballot. It cleared the way for Obama to run unopposed on the Democratic ticket in a heavily Democrat district.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/29/obamas.first.campaign/?iref=mpstoryview



Obama has no problem opening up sealed divorce records of Hull and Ryan when he ran for the US Senate office in Illinois


"When Obama was running for the state US Senate nomination, he was running against a guy named Blair Hull. Obama was way behind until his staffers put enough pressure on reporters to dig into Hull's sealed divorce records. They eventually got them opened and found a never-proven allegation of domestic violence by Hull against his then-wife, and that was it. Hull was history, Obama was the Democrats nominee....."



Next:


"When Obama was running for the US Senate, he was running against a Republican named Jack Ryan. Ryan was also divorced and once again the press went digging and unsealed Ryan's divorce and child-custody records. There was nothing as repulsive as violence, but there were some deliciously lurid allegations of a sexual nature that came to light -- and Ryan quit the race, leaving Obama virtually unchallenged in the race.




"Barack Obama's backers emailed reporters about the divorce controversy, but refrained from on-the-record commentary about the divorce" :rolleyes:



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Ryan_(Senate_candidate)

http://wizbangblog.com/content/2008/06/08/change-thats-more-than-skin-deep.php



Obama loves to dig into all kinds of shit but GOD FORBID we ask the man about a fake Document on his website...."Change you can believe in" :rofl2:


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Re: Analysis: Faked birth certificate suggests Obama may not be US citizen [Re: lonestar2004]
    #8562026 - 06/25/08 11:06 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Have I missed something?  What constitutes proof that the doc on his site is a fake?


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Re: Analysis: Faked birth certificate suggests Obama may not be US citizen [Re: SoY]
    #8562091 - 06/25/08 11:21 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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SoY said:
Have I missed something?  What constitutes proof that the doc on his site is a fake?





Link
http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12939.htm


personally i would not have accepted it as a little league baseball coach.

i doubt even the DMV would accept this document.


or the post office.


no seal

no stamp

no signature




where did this thing come from?


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Re: Analysis: Faked birth certificate suggests Obama may not be US citizen [Re: gluke bastid]
    #8562206 - 06/25/08 11:47 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

> However it is very typical of the GOP to bring Obama's citizenship into question

... and it is very typical of the left to bring McCains citizenship into question.  In case you missed it, there are several lawsuits against McCain running for president based upon his citizenship.

As you said, but fail to accept...

> I agree that the Democrats are just as bad as the Republicans when it comes to sleazy underhanded tactics.

You said it yourself, and you are correct.

http://howappealing.law.com/InlandEmpireVotersVsUSA.pdf

The complaint was filed by Andrew Aames, a Riverside lawyer volunteering for a Democratic Congressional Campaign (that is registered as a Republican. :rolleyes:).

But it doesn't stop there... oh no... there are more than one:

http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080522/NEWS08/894678839/-1/news08 by Fred Hollander.

etc...

How many people are suing Barack Hussein Obama to prove that he is a US citizen?

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Re: Analysis: Faked birth certificate suggests Obama may not be US citizen [Re: DieCommie]
    #8562221 - 06/25/08 11:49 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

lonestar are you freakin' serious with this topic? isn't there some kid who went to high school with obama that stole a candy bar when he was twelve that you can try to link obama to? or possibly obama once spelled america with a k when he was 5 and therefore he know hates america? perhaps obama once failed a math test and is therefore unable to get our economy out of the tanker?

stop grasping at straws and stick to real issues please. conservative bloggers aren't issues btw.


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Re: Analysis: Faked birth certificate suggests Obama may not be US citizen [Re: SlashOZ]
    #8562270 - 06/25/08 12:00 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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SlashOZ said:
lonestar are you freakin' serious with this topic?

stop grasping at straws and stick to real issues please. conservative bloggers aren't issues btw.




Yes.



BTW Phred would be the first to warn me if this was not an issue Worthy of debate.(Phred has deleted threads of mine in the past)


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Re: Analysis: Faked birth certificate suggests Obama may not be US citizen [Re: Seuss]
    #8562317 - 06/25/08 12:11 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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> However it is very typical of the GOP to bring Obama's citizenship into question

... and it is very typical of the left to bring McCains citizenship into question.  In case you missed it, there are several lawsuits against McCain running for president based upon his citizenship.




I did miss that. I've been doing my best to ignore the presidential race in order to protect my own sanity. I know what each candidate claims to stand for, so the details of each one's respective smear campaign is not really of interest to me.

Quote:

As you said, but fail to accept...





I don't fail to accept that the DNC will do anything to cheat their way into power. It might as well be the first sentence in their charter.


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Re: Analysis: Faked birth certificate suggests Obama may not be US citizen [Re: gluke bastid]
    #8562332 - 06/25/08 12:15 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

> I've been doing my best to ignore the presidential race in order to protect my own sanity.

Something I should do as well... *sigh* 

> It might as well be the first sentence in their charter.

Nah, then people would accuse the DNC of copying the GOP.  :grin:


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Re: Analysis: Faked birth certificate suggests Obama may not be US citizen [Re: Seuss]
    #8562425 - 06/25/08 12:44 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Seuss said:
> I've been doing my best to ignore the presidential race in order to protect my own sanity.

Something I should do as well... *sigh*




But let's admit it. It's hard to look away from such sensationalism. It's a junior high school popularity contest on a national level. It's an ugly car crash, but you can't help but peek.

Quote:

> It might as well be the first sentence in their charter.

Nah, then people would accuse the DNC of copying the GOP.  :grin:




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Re: Analysis: Faked birth certificate suggests Obama may not be US citizen [Re: gluke bastid]
    #8562438 - 06/25/08 12:47 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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gluke bastid said:

One of my favorite HSTisms: Only losers play fair, and all winners have blood on their hands.




:laugh:


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