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Obama Leads Mccain in OH, PA, FL
    #8538829 - 06/19/08 12:15 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I am not in any way, shape, or form convinced that polls mean anything at all this early in the campaign.  There is plenty of debate to be had over the next five and a half or six months.  But I'm posting this for Lonestar, who posts every poll he can find that presents Obama in a less than favorable light.  This one is, I think, telling.  All of those polls done while Hillary was still running were flawed, simply BECAUSE she was still running.  It's a totally different race when it's a two man contest.

I think it's B-Rock's election to lose.  If he doesn't screw up and do/say something incredibly stupid, he should be able to beat Saigon John.  That said, since Obama is not older than the fucking dinosaurs like his opponent, there is always the possibility he will do something idiotic and politically immature.

But I think he wins.  My opinion.  We'll see if the world comes to and end when it does, as our pet conservatives here have predicted.

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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Sen. Barack Obama is leading Sen. John McCain in the crucial swing states of Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida, according to a new survey.

Obama lost the Democratic primary in Pennsylvania by 9 percentage points. But a Quinnipiac University poll released Wednesday shows him leading McCain by 12 points, 52 to 40 percent.

In Ohio, a state Obama lost to Sen. Hillary Clinton by 10 points in March, he's leading McCain 48 to 42 percent.

And in Florida, where he did not campaign this primary season and lost an unsanctioned Democratic contest, he leads McCain 47 to 43 percent.

The Ohio and Florida results are reversals from Quinnipiac polls published a month ago, when Clinton was still in the race and McCain led Obama in hypothetical match-ups.

In the waning days of her campaign, Clinton argued to voters and superdelegates that she should be the nominee because she was the stronger candidate to beat McCain in these swing states during the general election.

Democrats in all three swing states say they'd like to see her on the ballot this fall, but independent voters give the idea a thumbs-down by margins of 9 to 16 percent. Video Watch more on who independents are favoring »

Quinnipiac surveyed between 1,300 and 1,500 voters in each state June 9-16. The polls had margins of error of plus or minus 2.5 percentage points for Pennsylvania and 2.6 percentage points for Ohio and Florida.

If the swing state momentum for Obama catches on all over the country, there may be a new electoral map. Interactive: CNN's latest Electoral College map »

The latest CNN national poll, conducted by the Opinion Research Corporation, shows Obama running strongest in the West -- and not just California.

"The 10 Rocky Mountain states have been traditionally the most Republican part of the country. So that's why it's so amazing that the polls show Obama doing well out here," said Bob Loevy, a political science professor at Colorado College.

Nevada, New Mexico and Colorado, three Western states that Bush carried by narrow margins in 2004, now look vulnerable to a Democratic takeover, even though they all border McCain's Arizona.
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So what's behind the change?

"In the upper-class suburbs of Denver that used to be so solidly Republican, a lot of aspects of the Bush administration have not played well there," Loevy said. "His war policies, his policies on abortion, gay marriage ... simply have not played well with the old Republican Party out there in the Rocky Mountain west. So it's in the upscale suburbs that we see the strongest shift to the Democrats."

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/18/swing.state.poll/index.html




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Re: Obama Leads McCain in OH, PA, FL [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #8540221 - 06/19/08 11:25 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

To ALL the Creepy Obama followers!

Wanna make a BET!



Fact: McCain will win easily in November because Obama Is A Deranged Idiot. Around 60 million Americans will not vote for McCain but against Obama...


I am willing to bet on it!



If Obama wins November 4th 2008 i will ban myself from the shroomery until after the January 20, 2009 Obama swearing-in ceremony.And if McCain wins you ban yourself from the Shroomery until after the McCain swearing-in ceremony.



Does anybody want to make that bet?





Many posters here would LOVE to see Lonestar go away!
(at least for a little while)



Who's IN?


Who honestly believes that Empty suit Obama has a chance?


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Re: Obama Leads McCain in OH, PA, FL [Re: lonestar2004]
    #8540260 - 06/19/08 11:49 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I honestly believe B-rock has a chance.  But, as I have said more than once, it is too early to tell.  Creepy followers can be found on both sides of the aisle.

For the record, I enjoy your posts as they give needed balance to the forum.  It takes two sides to debate.

A better question for you is how will you respond if Obama actually wins?  I never liked the taste of crow.


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Re: Obama Leads McCain in OH, PA, FL [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
    #8540337 - 06/19/08 12:31 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Senor_Hongos said:
I honestly believe B-rock has a chance.  But, as I have said more than once, it is too early to tell.  Creepy followers can be found on both sides of the aisle.

For the record, I enjoy your posts as they give needed balance to the forum.  It takes two sides to debate.

A better question for you is how will you respond if Obama actually wins?  I never liked the taste of crow.




I've enjoyed your posts, and i know what its like to eat crow. ( i predicted in 2006 that the Reps would hold the House and pick up a few seats in the Senate):crazy2:


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

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Re: Obama Leads McCain in OH, PA, FL [Re: lonestar2004]
    #8540363 - 06/19/08 12:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

:lol:

Oopsey.

Here's hoping better luck on your prediction this time.

:cheers:


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Re: Obama Leads McCain in OH, PA, FL [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
    #8540390 - 06/19/08 12:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Lonestar, I would rather you NOT run away if Obama wins. In fact, I look forward to teasing you for an entire year if it happens.

So a better bet would be, change your signature to this if Obama wins:



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Re: Obama Leads McCain in OH, PA, FL [Re: supernovasky]
    #8540397 - 06/19/08 12:58 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Polls that came out with those 3 also show him winning in Virginia.


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Re: Obama Leads McCain in OH, PA, FL [Re: supernovasky]
    #8540402 - 06/19/08 12:58 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

:rotfl:

we do need to come up with something.:)


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We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

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Re: Obama Leads McCain in OH, PA, FL [Re: supernovasky]
    #8540441 - 06/19/08 01:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

supernovasky said:
Lonestar, I would rather you NOT run away if Obama wins. In fact, I look forward to teasing you for an entire year if it happens.

So a better bet would be, change your signature to this if Obama wins:






Now that would be something. I want to see this happen, and if Obama is ahead in the only three states that matter, than there is definite potential.

Name your bet lonestar.


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Re: Obama Leads McCain in OH, PA, FL [Re: lonestar2004]
    #8540516 - 06/19/08 01:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I like the signature idea.  That way each side can play.

I hate the :rotfl: emoticon.  It looks like a teabag.  I guess that shows where my mind is.


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Re: Obama Leads McCain in OH, PA, FL [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
    #8540531 - 06/19/08 01:46 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Alright. So we should start it here.

We'll have a list of people on either side that will change their siggies should Obama or McCain Win.

If the Obama side wins, McCain supporters change their siggies to:



If the McCain side wins, you McCain supporters need to come up with a good siggie picture.


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Re: Obama Leads McCain in OH, PA, FL [Re: lonestar2004]
    #8540809 - 06/19/08 03:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

50$

who's going to be escrow?


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Re: Obama Leads McCain in OH, PA, FL [Re: afoaf]
    #8541103 - 06/19/08 05:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I'll hold it.


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Re: Obama Leads McCain in OH, PA, FL [Re: zappaisgod]
    #8541164 - 06/19/08 05:32 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I'll paypal you $50 tonight if lonestar accepts.

finally, money where mouth.


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Re: Obama Leads McCain in OH, PA, FL [Re: zappaisgod]
    #8541166 - 06/19/08 05:33 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I'll put $50.00 on McCain winning Florida, anyone wanna match that?


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Re: Obama Leads McCain in OH, PA, FL [Re: Chemy]
    #8541284 - 06/19/08 06:07 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Chemy said:
I'll put $50.00 on McCain winning Florida, anyone wanna match that?




Too early to get a good read, but I might take you up on that once things really get underway


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Re: Obama Leads McCain in OH, PA, FL [Re: afoaf]
    #8541854 - 06/19/08 08:55 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

afoaf said:
I'll paypal you $50 tonight if lonestar accepts.

finally, money where mouth.





Lord can we just go with the Sig idea?


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

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Re: Obama Leads McCain in OH, PA, FL [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
    #8541864 - 06/19/08 08:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Senor_Hongos said:
I like the signature idea.  That way each side can play.

I hate the :rotfl: emoticon.  It looks like a teabag.  I guess that shows where my mind is.





I'll never use it again.:grin:


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama


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Re: Obama Leads McCain in OH, PA, FL [Re: lonestar2004]
    #9148473 - 10/28/08 04:10 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

double post.


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Edited by pinkfloydms (10/28/08 04:11 PM)


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Re: Obama Leads McCain in OH, PA, FL [Re: lonestar2004]
    #9148474 - 10/28/08 04:10 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Bumping to refresh lonestar's memory. :wink:


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so yeah:
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Best story ever!

www.panicstream.com :thumbup:


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Re: Obama Leads McCain in OH, PA, FL [Re: pinkfloydms]
    #9148502 - 10/28/08 04:16 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

If obama wins i will change my signature to this




for one month!;)


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America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

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Re: Obama Leads McCain in OH, PA, FL [Re: lonestar2004]
    #9148526 - 10/28/08 04:22 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

:lol:


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so yeah:
- 'sex' five times
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- once with a cadaver
- and thrice with actual women(all of which were prostitutes)
Best story ever!

www.panicstream.com :thumbup:


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