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are synchronicities real?
    #8538465 - 06/18/08 08:31 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

or am i associating my thought to the stimulus because the stimulus triggered the thought?

or am i making the stimuli mean more than what it actually is?

why do i try to make sense our of non-sensical things?

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Re: are synchronicities real? [Re: TameMe]
    #8538477 - 06/18/08 08:34 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I've had things happen to me that are just too improbable to be coincidences.

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Re: are synchronicities real? [Re: JH05]
    #8538489 - 06/18/08 08:38 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

like??....

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Re: are synchronicities real? [Re: TameMe]
    #8538518 - 06/18/08 08:45 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Porn star named Stacey, sometimes spelled Stacy. I'm arranging files on my laptop, and I see that I have two folders for her, one with each varied spelling of her name. Fast-forward a few minutes later: the lady at the place I was at gets a call from a Stacy and says "how do you spell your name, with an e or without?"

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Re: are synchronicities real? [Re: TameMe]
    #8538528 - 06/18/08 08:47 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Probabilistically, synchronicities HAVE TO HAPPEN. Do they have any cosmic meaning? No!


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Re: are synchronicities real? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8538587 - 06/18/08 09:05 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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OrgoneConclusion said:
Probabilistically, synchronicities HAVE TO HAPPEN. Do they have any cosmic meaning? No!




They have the meaning that you decide they have - whether they do or not....
Probabilistically the chances are slim that they have "cosmic meaning", but "slim" doesn't mean that there is no chance at all....   

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Re: are synchronicities real? [Re: PhanTomCat]
    #8538602 - 06/18/08 09:12 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

What are the odds that your handle is PhantomCat and that you have a phantom cat as your avatar? It is just mind-boggling!


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Re: are synchronicities real? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8538622 - 06/18/08 09:18 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

EXACTLY my point....    :smile:
It was the only picture I took that night that turned out so dark,
AND my buddies cat was actually looking in my direction for that one to catch the eye reflection....

I am pretty sure that some planets were lined up that night, thus making it a cosmic synchronicity....
Those kind are legit....  :thumbup:


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Re: are synchronicities real? [Re: PhanTomCat]
    #8538693 - 06/18/08 09:39 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Probabilistically is an actual word?


Anyways, coincidences happen but mean nothing except what what you apply to them.

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Re: are synchronicities real? [Re: Boots]
    #8538761 - 06/18/08 09:56 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Probabilistically is an actual word?





Probably. :crazy:


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Re: are synchronicities real? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8538770 - 06/18/08 09:58 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

:rofl2:


It worked out fine in the spell check....  :ohwell:


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Re: are synchronicities real? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8538833 - 06/18/08 10:16 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Do they have any cosmic meaning? No!





Thats a pretty bold statement :awesome:


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Re: are synchronicities real? [Re: Asante]
    #8538837 - 06/18/08 10:17 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

there doesn't seem to be any evidence to indicate to me that synchronicities are the result of anything greater than coincidence. maybe i'm just hard-head, idk


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Re: are synchronicities real? [Re: whatsgrimace]
    #8539593 - 06/19/08 03:34 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I got a bit worried today, I thought I was getting a bit spaced out and thought of myself as a ghost, and then the first song I go to queue up in winamp is called "Ghost 0234", then, I was thinking about a potential personality split in my mind, and as it brushed my mind I closed the back door with the curtain half in half out; split.

Meh.


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Re: are synchronicities real? [Re: burgatory]
    #8539760 - 06/19/08 05:49 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

lol

crazy

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Re: are synchronicities real? [Re: JH05]
    #8540023 - 06/19/08 08:08 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: are synchronicities real? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8540648 - 06/19/08 12:30 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Probabilistically, synchronicities HAVE TO HAPPEN. Do they have any cosmic meaning? No!




Pffft. Shows what you know. Coincidences have to happen. Syncronicities are coincidences with a third element of transpersonal significance.

Go read some Carl Jung and get back to us.  :discorex:

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Re: are synchronicities real? [Re: PhanTomCat]
    #8540755 - 06/19/08 01:04 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Quote:

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Probabilistically, synchronicities HAVE TO HAPPEN. Do they have any cosmic meaning? No!




They have the meaning that you decide they have - whether they do or not....





Yup, this is pretty much my belief. The more you tend to think that synchronicities have purpose behind them, the more you notice them and the more you tend to apply them to your life. If you choose to apply them to your life and your life changes as a result, well....couldn't that mean that those synchronicities really DID have a purpose? At least to the relevant person.

Maybe the don't have any meaning cosmically speaking, but personally speaking....who knows, I'm willing to accept the possibility.


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Re: are synchronicities real? [Re: TameMe]
    #8540876 - 06/19/08 01:42 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Synchronicities as described by Jung include an inner psychic event that coincides temporal-spacially with an outer physical event. This has to do with his understanding of the nature of phenomenal reality as being "psychoid," which is to say that space-time is both psychic and physical - just as humans are. Hey, what a coincidence! Human beings are also woven from the strands of space and time, we are co-extensive with the universe of space-time, not separate.

If two corellated particles, according to quantum mechanics, that are separated by a distance so great that their correlation cannot be caused by 'signaling' (because signaling would have to exceed the speed of light), but their movements are correlated instantaneously, there then has to be more than a physical cause. In the same vein, if two people separated by say, 100 million miles (an astronaut and someone on Earth) had an instantaneous telepathic moment, a physical signaling could not be the cause because electromagnetic energy would still take almost 10 minutes to travel that distance. How then to account for the instantaneity? Because, theoretically, psyche transcends space-time. That is to say, 'our minds are one' - kinda like a Vulcan mind-meld only more far out because not only is time transcended but space is as well. Time and space are irrelevant to this kind of simultaneity and real synchronicities are like this in that they are not physically causal. Hence "Synchronicity: An Acausual Connecting Principle."

The Chinese who developed the I Ching based upon what Jung called Synchronicity, said, casually, of acausal phenomena that 'certain things like to happen together.' An accepting mentality, a Ch'an or Zen mind simply nods OK whilst the one-sided rationalist just cannot let go of his/her cause-effect addiction to grok the phenomena that defies causality. Rationality has its obvious importance in the realm of micro-thought, but in the realm of macro-thought, transrational is the shibboleth. That realm operates on intuition, not discursive reason. It is like Newtonian physics that operate in the macro-world, but not in the micro-world of quantum physics. The micro works within the macro. The rational operates by virtue of the consciousness that is transrational, and which is by nature transcendental - the psychic side of reality. Buddhism says pretty much the same thing.


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Re: are synchronicities real? [Re: Middleman]
    #8540982 - 06/19/08 02:20 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Pffft. Shows what you know. Coincidences have to happen. Syncronicities are coincidences with a third element of transpersonal significance.





Syncronicities are coincidences with a third element of added delusional importance.

I was reading a frontier book last month and the main character told how Native Amercians would sleep with dogs to stay warm in the harsh winters. Just then a song from 'Three Dog Night' came on the radio and my life was forever changed by the chock-full-of-meaning' synchronicity.

Today I raise Huskies for a living - NOT!


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