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Coffee Drinkers Might Live Longer
#8532740 - 06/17/08 07:04 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Coffee Drinkers Might Live Longer June 16, 2008 - Washington Post
Good news for coffee lovers: Drinking up to six cups a day of caffeinated or decaffeinated coffee daily won't shorten your life span, a new study shows.
In fact, coffee might even help the heart, especially for women, the researchers found.
"Our results suggest that long-term, regular coffee consumption does not increase the risk of death and probably has several beneficial effects on health," said lead researcher Dr. Esther Lopez-Garcia, assistant professor of preventive medicine at the Autonoma University in Madrid, Spain.
Her team published its findings in the June 17 issue of theAnnals of Internal Medicine.
Lopez-Garcia stressed that the findings may only hold true only for healthy folk. "People with any disease or condition should ask their doctor about their risk, because caffeine still has an acute effect on short-term increase of blood pressure," she said.
In the study, the Spanish team looked at the relationships between coffee drinking and the risks of dying from heart disease, cancer, or any cause in almost 42,000 men who participated in the Health Professionals Follow-Up Study and more than 84,000 women who had participated in the Nurses' Health Study. At the study start, all participants were free of heart disease and cancer.
The participants completed questionnaires every two to four years, including information about their coffee drinking, other dietary habits, smoking and health conditions. The research team looked at the frequency of death from any cause, death due to heart disease, and death due to cancer among people with different coffee-drinking habits, comparing them to those who didn't drink the brew. They also controlled for other risk factors, including diet, smoking and body size.
The researchers found that women who drank two or three cups of caffeinated coffee daily had a 25 percent lower risk of death from heart disease during the follow-up (from 1980 to 2004) than non-drinkers. Women also had an 18 percent lower death risk from a cause other than cancer or heart disease compared with non-coffee drinkers.
For men, drinking two to three cups of caffeinated coffee daily was a "wash" -- not associated with either an increased or a decreased risk of death during the follow up, from 1986 to 2004.
The lower death rate was mainly due to a lower risk for heart disease deaths, the researchers found, while no link was discovered for coffee drinking and cancer deaths. The relationship did not seem to be directly related to caffeine, according to the researchers, since those who drank decaf also had a lower death rate than those who didn't drink either kind of coffee.
In the past, studies have come up with mixed results on the health effects of coffee, with some finding coffee increased the risk of death and others not.
More recently, research has found coffee drinking linked with a lower risk of type 2 diabetes and some cancers, and preventing the development of cardiovascular disease, Lopez-Garcia said.
The strength of her current study, she said, includes the large number of participants and long follow-up period.
While the study is interesting, it does have its shortcomings, said Dr. Peter Galier, an internal medicine specialist, former chief of staff at Santa Monica UCLA and Orthopedic Hospital and associate professor of medicine at the University of California Los Angeles' David Geffen School of Medicine.
Self-reporting is one shortcoming, he said, because people may have under- or over-reported their coffee consumption, for instance.
"I think what this study tells us is not so much that coffee is the answer to everything," he said. But, rather, that some compounds, such as the antioxidants found in coffee, may be healthy.
Galier's advice for consumers: "I would tell them to weigh the subjective risk of their coffee consumption," he said. For instance, "if they love coffee, but it makes them jittery, and they can't sleep, the need to adjust it," he said. "Look at your symptoms," he tells patients. "If decaf is no problem, I wouldn't put a limit on that." ad_icon
The research was funded by grants from the U.S. National Institutes of Health.
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Re: Coffee Drinkers Might Live Longer [Re: veggie]
#8533006 - 06/17/08 09:28 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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FUCK COFFEE
It might make some people live longer, but not me.
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lol l wanted to quit.. but I think imma go brew some 
Black with one sugar
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Re: Coffee Drinkers Might Live Longer [Re: veggie]
#8533667 - 06/17/08 01:22 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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This article makes me feel much better about drinking coffee. I drink about 5-8 cups of black coffee a day. I love the taste of strong black coffee.
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Re: Coffee Drinkers Might Live Longer [Re: aDoS]
#8533702 - 06/17/08 01:34 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Wait...
So speedy compounds INCREASE the function of your heart? Does this mean that WITHOUT the carcinogens and poisons available in, say, tobacco and marijuana without vaporizer, could be rendered safe by use of these materials in a non-carcinogenic form?
What about tweek, hard, soft, and other amphetamine derivatives? Where are the studies, the experiments, the science? Oh, wait, I forgot, it's taboo. 
Yay coffee. The most used psychotropic drug available to the entire world is now being given good grades. What else would POSSIBLY get good grades without the social stigmas? Should I begin a list?
Marijuana may reduce growth of cancer? We should make our own fucking mainstream news station.
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Re: Coffee Drinkers Might Live Longer [Re: numonkei]
#8534083 - 06/17/08 03:24 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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There was actually an article on here a few months ago about cannabis preventing cancer cell growth...maybe you just missed it.
I dunno..I can believe it, coffee does not = amphetamine. That is like saying codeine = heroin.
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Re: Coffee Drinkers Might Live Longer [Re: aDoS]
#8535408 - 06/17/08 10:04 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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I must add that caffeine indirectly increases dopamine levels in synapses causing this way a lot less damage. Amphetamines block DAT (dopamine transporter, that is) and prevent it from taking dopamine back to the cell. What is more, amphetamine also causes in other manner dopamine to be released more from cells so one's synapses are literally flooded with dopamine bombarding postsynaptic receptors. If someone doesn't know that, I will add that, this causes a massive damage to dopamine receptors. Amphetamines are the most damaging drugs around the world. [EDIT: talking about the hard drugs popularly used by many addicts, leave alone atropine and other poisons like that; just to clarify]
Caffeine = amphetamine isn't like saying codeine = heroin. This is even far more wrong because codeine is in metabolised to morphine which directly acts along with its morphine-6-glucoronide metabolite on opioid receptors. Codeine can be safely injected intramuscularly and i.m. codeine = 60% p.o. codeine.
I'm not denying that caffeine isn't addictive. It is. But the article is about coffee, I guess. Please do not apply such analogies for your own good, do not look an excuse for your drug use if you know deep inside, it is harming. I'm not telling you this because I'm against drug-addicts or something. I've been addicted to strong opioids for almost 2 years now but I've grown up to the point where I can admit, it was my mistake, maybe my stupidity or naivety. It doesn't matter. My fault! Some day you may find in a situation when you have to decide whether you sacrifice for drugs or fight with this terrible illness. My day has come.
Cheers!
PS. Hello to the forum.
Edited by timeless (06/17/08 10:16 PM)
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Re: Coffee Drinkers Might Live Longer [Re: timeless]
#8535586 - 06/17/08 11:05 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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coffee with bud = da bombs
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Re: Coffee Drinkers Might Live Longer [Re: timeless]
#8535906 - 06/18/08 01:06 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
timeless said: I must add that caffeine indirectly increases dopamine levels in synapses causing this way a lot less damage. Amphetamines block DAT (dopamine transporter, that is) and prevent it from taking dopamine back to the cell. What is more, amphetamine also causes in other manner dopamine to be released more from cells so one's synapses are literally flooded with dopamine bombarding postsynaptic receptors. If someone doesn't know that, I will add that, this causes a massive damage to dopamine receptors. Amphetamines are the most damaging drugs around the world. [EDIT: talking about the hard drugs popularly used by many addicts, leave alone atropine and other poisons like that; just to clarify]
Caffeine = amphetamine isn't like saying codeine = heroin. This is even far more wrong because codeine is in metabolised to morphine which directly acts along with its morphine-6-glucoronide metabolite on opioid receptors. Codeine can be safely injected intramuscularly and i.m. codeine = 60% p.o. codeine.
I'm not denying that caffeine isn't addictive. It is. But the article is about coffee, I guess. Please do not apply such analogies for your own good, do not look an excuse for your drug use if you know deep inside, it is harming. I'm not telling you this because I'm against drug-addicts or something. I've been addicted to strong opioids for almost 2 years now but I've grown up to the point where I can admit, it was my mistake, maybe my stupidity or naivety. It doesn't matter. My fault! Some day you may find in a situation when you have to decide whether you sacrifice for drugs or fight with this terrible illness. My day has come.
Cheers!
PS. Hello to the forum.
I love you
And for the guy who said:Quote:
What about tweek, hard, soft, and other amphetamine derivatives? Where are the studies, the experiments, the science? Oh, wait, I forgot, it's taboo. 
you've got to be kidding me. Search for ampetamine or mef on google scholar and tell me there are no studies.
Both are fda approved drugs for christ's sake.
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Re: Coffee Drinkers Might Live Longer [Re: johnm214]
#8536584 - 06/18/08 09:31 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Coming from a study in spain eh? isn't one of their biggest exports coffee? That being said, I'm packing up my daughter and we are going for a trip to Tim Hortons.
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