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Re: Terrence McKenna`s Philosophical Contributions [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8525833 - 06/15/08 02:29 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I enjoy reading Terence McKenna. He had a flare with writing and articulating. He may have been wrong about some things, but he was an explorer. He's helped me understand certain experiences I've had, better than I could've on my own. He was a beautiful dude, don't see what's not to like about him...

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I've done similar things as what he did with his voice, on DMT. I can't say it changed my DNA,




You similarly changed DNA without changing DNA

AND

You made a sound with your mouth.


What an amazing person! Teach me next.




You simply misunderstand what I said. I meant that with my vocal chords I made similar sounds as Terence McKenna (while on DMT). No need to be uptight...you ceaselessly are unhelpful and rude to me and others, why? "What an amazing person!"


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Re: Terrence McKenna`s Philosophical Contributions [Re: KetamineKatalyst]
    #8525854 - 06/15/08 02:43 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I might be missing out on a huge part of this discussion... BUT

I read True Hallucinations a while back. McKenna discussed his trip to the Amazon, wherein which he, his brother, and some traveling companions went searching for an obscure tribal administration of DMT, but ended up just eating gigantic amounts of mushrooms and smoking B. caapi on a daily basis.

Through their mushroom exploration, Terence's brother Dennis "realized" that he could induce trancelike states, gain Akashic wisdom, and alter space/time and DNA through certain vocal modulations. His ontological assumptions were rapidly disproven by his own companions, and his deteriorating mental condition at that time is reflected upon in the same book I mentioned before. Terence was not some lunatic who took down too much drugs. He was a VERY RATIONAL PERSON who took down too much drugs.

OC, I'm disappointed in you for taking McKenna's ideas out of context to portray him as a lunatic.


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Re: Terrence McKenna`s Philosophical Contributions [Re: KetamineKatalyst]
    #8525855 - 06/15/08 02:43 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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I meant that with my vocal chords I made similar sounds as Terence McKenna...




There was no audio CD with "True Hallucinations" yet you know the sounds were similar.

Amazing!


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Re: Terrence McKenna`s Philosophical Contributions [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #8525860 - 06/15/08 02:47 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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OC, I'm disappointed in you...




Now I shall require years of therapy. :cryariver:


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Re: Terrence McKenna`s Philosophical Contributions [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #8525867 - 06/15/08 02:50 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Terence was not some lunatic who took down too much drugs. He was a VERY RATIONAL PERSON who took down too much drugs.





Wacky is as wacky does.


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Re: Terrence McKenna`s Philosophical Contributions [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8525878 - 06/15/08 02:59 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Wacky is as DMT does, you mean. :lol:


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Re: Terrence McKenna`s Philosophical Contributions [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #8525940 - 06/15/08 03:43 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

"...it's our world and our children's world and were not going to see it run over the edge by a bunch of constipated gentlemen..."



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Re: Terrence McKenna`s Philosophical Contributions [Re: MokshaIs]
    #8525953 - 06/15/08 03:52 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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a bunch of constipated gentlemen




An emotional and inaccurate assessment of those holding a different belief than the quotee. Hardly up to academic standards.


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Re: Terrence McKenna`s Philosophical Contributions [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8526687 - 06/15/08 12:37 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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I meant that with my vocal chords I made similar sounds as Terence McKenna...




There was no audio CD with "True Hallucinations" yet you know the sounds were similar.

Amazing!




:lol: :flowstone:

I've heard quite a few people make use of their vocal chords in strange ways on DMT, you should try it some time :thumbup: I intuitively understand that Terence was doing the same sort of thing, making peculiar tones that are otherwise hard to make when sober. It vibrates your whole body intensely, and sometimes can end in convulsions. It can also sound like a war-cry :tongue2:

Doubt me all you want Orgone, it's not my mind that's closed in this matter... :flowstone:


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Re: Terrence McKenna`s Philosophical Contributions [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8526735 - 06/15/08 12:54 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Terence was not some lunatic who took down too much drugs. He was a VERY RATIONAL PERSON who took down too much drugs.





Wacky is as wacky does.




No one knows this better than you.


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Re: Terrence McKenna`s Philosophical Contributions [Re: KetamineKatalyst]
    #8526746 - 06/15/08 12:59 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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I meant that with my vocal chords I made similar sounds as Terence McKenna...




There was no audio CD with "True Hallucinations" yet you know the sounds were similar. My voice had never done this before to my knowledge.

I have always had great respect for TM. He was a great and IMO, courageous explorer.

Amazing!




:lol: :flowstone:

I've heard quite a few people make use of their vocal chords in strange ways on DMT, you should try it some time :thumbup: I intuitively understand that Terence was doing the same sort of thing, making peculiar tones that are otherwise hard to make when sober. It vibrates your whole body intensely, and sometimes can end in convulsions. It can also sound like a war-cry :tongue2:

Doubt me all you want Orgone, it's not my mind that's closed in this matter... :flowstone:




I had this experience myself while high dosing shrooms on a mountainside where I spent an amazing night by myself and some wild hallucinations. I have always enjoyed and respected TM.


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Re: Terrence McKenna`s Philosophical Contributions [Re: Icelander]
    #8526774 - 06/15/08 01:07 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Terrence McKenna was a mystic shaman. Not a philosopher. :thumbdown:


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Re: Terrence McKenna`s Philosophical Contributions [Re: AnarchoTrip]
    #8526786 - 06/15/08 01:11 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Were all philosophers.

What, by the way is a Mystic Shaman? Did you make that up?


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