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Re: to use air pumps or not
    #85232 - 05/01/00 02:59 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

I tried to build my secound terrarium as you described. I used 2 fish pumps inside a tupperware container with a hepa filter sealed into the lid. I also made a small hole in the side of the terrarium and covered it with one of thoes 3 micron filters(for air escape). I was very dissapointed because I was unable to keep a steady humidity. It was more than likely possible to work this bug out. However, I didn't have time because I had cakes ready to go.

Many people have done this with no problems so it can be done.

In other words be prepared for some experimenting.



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Re: to use air pumps or not
    #85234 - 05/02/00 02:16 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Buy an igloo or coleman cooler at WM and youve got yourself an already sealed container with a sturdy lid. You simply carve out a rectangle in the lid and replace the hole with some plexiglass or glass if you wish and silicon glue. There is already a convenient drainage hole at the bottom from which you can run a small tube through to pump air into the chamber. Carbon dioxide will always hang out on the bottom of the cooler since of course CO2 is more dense than regular air. The tube that is strung through the drainage hole can be tape on the inside of the cooler near the top. And this helps you avoid drilling an extra hole specifically for it. There will be enough room left in the drainage conduit for air to vacate the inside of the cooler. once the air pumps is turned on the air sitting near the bottom will be forced out the drainage hole and fresh new air will replace the stale old air.

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Re: to use air pumps or not
    #85236 - 05/03/00 05:05 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

...use them and buble the Air trough one or better two jars filled with water, I have them running all the day...the jars stand inside the terrrium on a heating cable.....

B.T.W my terrarium is selfmade with a big container and a plastic foil roof...i isn't even near to air tight...

In my Experience (with casings)...airation prevents contamination better then sterility, clean working room etc....(in the fruiting phase)



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Re: to use air pumps or not
    #85237 - 05/04/00 08:30 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

yes, do use the pump(s). keep the air moving.
Also, make a few holes at the opposite end for air-flow. While it is quite possible to have success with simple fanning technique, I prefer either an air-pump or cool-mist humidifier with plastic tubes running to fruiting-chamber. These are in addition to perlite on bottom(use at least 10% h202 to prevent contamination and keep it fresh) During fruiting I recommend leaving the lid off an inch or so(more fresh air) though others seem to have luck with a tightly sealed container.good luck.


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Re: to use air pumps or not
    #85238 - 05/06/00 12:02 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Should I just run my tubes to the bottom of the contaiuner (using a big container and perlite for humidity) and have a hole with filter over it on the side (above perlite), or should I bubble somehow? How should I do this bubbling? I assume putting the tubes in a beaker with water or something inside the terranium, but then again I'm not sure, if I am casing in SOS casings, have the lid cracked for the tubes (or a hole drilled) can I just put the tubes down in the perlite or under the wire mesh under the SOS casings? Will this keep ~80% humidity (optimal for casings right).


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Re: to use air pumps or not
    #85239 - 05/06/00 03:37 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

The first part sounds good with the tubes and the holes. The bubbler deal is noisy I found.
There are two ways to bub. One withtubes in a jar with water or perlite. The other is a bubbler stone. I picked one up to see how it works.It isnt necessary but some like them a lot i've heard.
Theres only one way to find out,try it,experiment,see what works best for your conditions. Either an aquarium air-pump or a cool-mist humidifier works well to permit many air-exchanges. This removes gases and keeps the water evaporating from the perlite too.


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