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Re: I'm interested in chaos theory... [Re: DieCommie]
#8525829 - 06/15/08 02:20 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Lots of simplified ways to describe Chaos Theory to non-math-minded type people, none of which really describe it by themselves.
I honestly feel like the name of the theory itself should make it clear what it states. It's kind of an obvious fact of the universe.
Something which seems unremarkable to you now might make a huge difference down the road, and there's no way to know for sure ahead of time.
I'm sure the progenitors of chaos theory had a lot of fun coming up with ideas like that a butterfly fluttering its wings might trigger a disaster on the other side of the world. For all you know it happens every day, but can you really know for sure?
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Re: I'm interested in chaos theory... (moved) [Re: AnarchoTrip]
#8526089 - 06/15/08 07:23 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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This thread was moved from Philosophy & Spirituality.
Reason: This thread has nothing to do with Philosophy or Spirituality. Please stay on topic.
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Re: I'm interested in chaos theory... (moved) [Re: Diploid]
#8526652 - 06/15/08 12:25 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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how did this have nothing to do with philsophy?
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Re: I'm interested in chaos theory... (moved) [Re: AnarchoTrip]
#8526667 - 06/15/08 12:31 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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One of my favorite books, and a very well written one on chaos theory. Some parts my go above your head, but if you can remember anything from high school physics, it shouldent.

Chaos
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Re: I'm interested in chaos theory... (moved) [Re: AnarchoTrip]
#8526719 - 06/15/08 12:46 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
AnarchoTrip said: how did this have nothing to do with philsophy?
Diploid
How does it have anything to do with philosophy? I asked you that and you replied...
and yes, I'm interested in the mathematical/physics chaos theory.
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Re: I'm interested in chaos theory... (moved) [Re: DieCommie]
#8526745 - 06/15/08 12:58 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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...we're getting into grey here.
I'm interested in the overviewing "theory" of the Chaos theory, and I consider this more philosophical than mathematical. I'm NOT interested in memorising formulas and reading about other-dimension matricies--I consider that all mathematical/scientific.
My bad, I guess.
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Re: I'm interested in chaos theory... (moved) [Re: AnarchoTrip]
#8526846 - 06/15/08 01:35 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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And that book has very little to do with mathematical formulas or "other dimensional matrices"....
It is based on the the fact that no matter what area of science, math, life, everything that can be observed, there are phenomina which are far from the predicted observation. Which IS chaos theory.
If you dont want to hear about math, or science, dont ask a question that is based in the two. Chaos theory was 'created' to begin to understand why small changes in predetermined situations result in drastically different outcomes.
Fractals, attractors, the golden ratio, Bifurcation, are all chaotic phenomenon. Essentially its a system that tries to reach a point but never does, and never repeats, chaotic.
If you want to discuss WHY chaos exists, then that i can see as philosophical, else it is a mathematical/physics issue.
That book is really your best bet at understanding it, if i wanted to confuse you id refer you to a textbook, not a book of elaborate explanations and the history behind most all discoveries of chaos.
Sorry to rant, but asking a question then being offended at answers given, is really annoying to me.
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Re: I'm interested in chaos theory... [Re: AnarchoTrip]
#8530513 - 06/16/08 04:24 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Chaos theory in math/science is covered in the CD-ROM Solid Gold Gnarly Math, at http://www.gnarlymath.com It's also covered briefly in an ebook found at http://www.gnarlymath.com/gnarnews.html
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