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mutant? lumps instead of pins <<<<<now with pics>>>>> * 1
    #8507136 - 06/10/08 11:58 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

just got home from work to find the cake covered in lups insead of pins (look like tey are made ou fo the same stuff as pins but aint pins)

so a few questions(this is the first flush for these cakes)
will these cakes develop pins or will it be lumps all the way

will the whole syringe produce these lumps

will it stay all mutated on all flushes

how do you know when to pick these lumps and can i dry them in the same way as usual

thx

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Re: mutant? lumps instead of pins [Re: kevkaos]
    #8507308 - 06/10/08 12:57 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

It's a total guess, but maybe the lumps will form dark heads in the next 24hrs.  I had some pins form on a tub before I initiated fruiting conditions, and they were like little fingers, but with no pinheads on them, for the first 24.


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Re: mutant? lumps instead of pins [Re: abica]
    #8507312 - 06/10/08 12:59 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

cool thats poss, they just seem real big
would be cool if thats the case cos that would mean they would be propa fat

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Re: mutant? lumps instead of pins [Re: kevkaos]
    #8510510 - 06/11/08 08:40 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

pics




ok i know the pics aint great just hope you get the idea

these lumps have no head/cap and ain't really pin shapes more like small stones

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Re: mutant? lumps instead of pins --how with pics [Re: kevkaos]
    #8510542 - 06/11/08 08:55 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

man i have been having shitty results with some cakes like that, though they are in a new FC im trying to regulate, casings in a good FC ive used for awhile.

Ive also got little "stone" like growths of mycelium on my cakes, no pins.

The FC fluctuates from 73-80 =/ im pretty sure their confused and keep growing, but really havnt done many cakes either...2nd flush of a cake is in there that was originally  in other FC, only has 1 mushroom as second flush :frown:

I figured even though it was reaching 80 degrees whenever i couldn't control it ( 2-3 hours before i wake up ) when i could drop it to around a constant 72-74 for a full day that it wouldn't matter and that my damn fungus would get the idea.

P.S. i'm impatient, im used to fast fruiting, its been 8 days on the cakes. My casings take 4 days to see pina colada flavored nerds ( thats white for all you who don't buy the multi colored nerds )

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Re: mutant? lumps instead of pins --how with pics [Re: blindguy114]
    #8510619 - 06/11/08 09:36 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

ok found some pics in another post that better shows what im talking about





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Re: mutant? lumps instead of pins --how with pics [Re: kevkaos]
    #8510627 - 06/11/08 09:39 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Okay nevermind, with that clarity i can tell that is nothing like what i got haha. I've just got fluffly white bumps that are about that size but are just clumps of mycelium growth.

That.... That just looks like its growing headless mushrooms, it may be a retard?

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Re: mutant? lumps instead of pins --how with pics [Re: blindguy114]
    #8511378 - 06/11/08 01:37 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

anyone????

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Re: mutant? lumps instead of pins --how with pics [Re: kevkaos]
    #8511400 - 06/11/08 01:41 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Those are cancer emitting orbs. Soon they will detach themselves from the cakes, and float around your living area doing what they do best- emitting cancer radiation.

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Re: mutant? lumps instead of pins --how with pics [Re: nolongerinuse]
    #8511408 - 06/11/08 01:43 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

If it is just fluffy mycelium clumps, then it sounds like humidity could be too high or they are just getting ready to pin. But in those pictures it looks like a bunch of mutated pins.

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Re: mutant? lumps instead of pins --how with pics [Re: Jrsxt]
    #8511556 - 06/11/08 02:16 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

yeah i was thinking mutated pins
it prob cancer tho lol
just wanted some opinions cos it was on two cakes
cheers folk

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Re: mutant? lumps instead of pins --how with pics [Re: kevkaos]
    #8511692 - 06/11/08 03:00 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Blistering happens sometimes.  You didn't give any information on your growing conditions, such as light, air exchange and humidity.  Usually, correcting problems in those three areas will get your cakes flushing.
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Re: mutant? lumps instead of pins --how with pics [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #8511744 - 06/11/08 03:15 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

humidity is controlled by 5inch of perlite ain't got a hydrometer
air exchange is controlled by fanning 4-6 times a day although im at work so it can be 8hrs between  first and second fan (have lots of holes in tank tho) temp wasn't great last week as we had bad weather, light is controlled by time of day

ain't had any problems with my other cakes

one thing it could be now i think about it the perlite has been in there for about 3 weeks could this be the problem?

if so should i re hydrate the perlite (take it out and re soak it or should i buy some more

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Re: mutant? lumps instead of pins --how with pics [Re: kevkaos]
    #8511760 - 06/11/08 03:19 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Hmmm, might be early signs of dormant mold?

Sometimes those mutants uncurl after a few days and become HUGE humpback fruits. I'd watch those cakes a little closer, but you'll probably be fine.

Are you misting at all, holes in the FC? The FAE sounds good, 5" of perlite should be plenty.




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Re: mutant? lumps instead of pins --how with pics [Re: numonkei]
    #8511764 - 06/11/08 03:21 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

yeah mist about 3 times a day morning/noon/night

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Re: mutant? lumps instead of pins --how with pics [Re: kevkaos]
    #8511775 - 06/11/08 03:24 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Hmmm... yeah, probably keep an eye on them for discoloration. This might not the be problem, but sometimes excess mutants has been an early sign of mold, in my experience.

Are you using, what, a shotgun FC?




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Re: mutant? lumps instead of pins --how with pics [Re: numonkei]
    #8511781 - 06/11/08 03:26 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

yeah shotgun with a clear bag as a lid

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Re: mutant? lumps instead of pins --how with pics [Re: kevkaos]
    #8516320 - 06/12/08 05:07 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

ok these growths/mutants/blisters are getting bigger

have re hydrated the perlite and am starting to see pins(well a pin)

my question is should i pick theses growths off or should i let them mature?

will my next flush be the same or will it improve now  i have re hydrated the perlite

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Re: mutant? lumps instead of pins --how with pics [Re: kevkaos]
    #8595322 - 07/04/08 03:36 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

could blisters form in the jar and almost looking like a wedge from a circle?

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Re: mutant? lumps instead of pins --how with pics [Re: milkman]
    #8595499 - 07/04/08 04:30 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

i've had this problem with several grows when using MS.  Mostly happened when i grew golden teachers.  Never got the fuckers to fruit, the lumps just ended up yellowing and hardening up.


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Re: mutant? lumps instead of pins --how with pics [Re: nolongerinuse]
    #8595673 - 07/04/08 06:06 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

kevkaos I've had some odd growths myself, these were unattached to anything, they were brown all over, it was like a cap formed from nothing but there was no veil and no place for a stem to attach, it was just fleshy cap with a few malformed gills inside





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Those are cancer emitting orbs. Soon they will detach themselves from the cakes, and float around your living area doing what they do best- emitting cancer radiation.




I so want to be there when that happens

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Re: mutant? lumps instead of pins --how with pics [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #8596555 - 07/05/08 03:10 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

I actually experienced the same problem with some orissa spores I bought from a non-vendor a couple months ago.. The company kinda rhymes with Spores Have-No-Fun!!  Nothin' but Myc piss and fungal blobs on my casing..  I was actually contemplating killing myself...  Until I received a divine message from one of the Psilocybe Saints known as St. Paul Menace who introduced me to a faultless strain that I have not looked back on...  Nor shall I ever!


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Re: mutant? lumps instead of pins --how with pics [Re: coda]
    #8657143 - 07/19/08 11:48 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Give them a nice cold shock, and see if that helps them turn over. It can't hurt, but it might help...


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Re: mutant? lumps instead of pins --how with pics [Re: HazeyRoms]
    #8657347 - 07/20/08 01:16 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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Give them a nice cold shock, and see if that helps them turn over. It can't hurt, but it might help...




cold shocking does absolutely nothing for ps.cubensis, it's a myth.

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Re: mutant? lumps instead of pins --how with pics [Re: wasting_space]
    #8657557 - 07/20/08 02:41 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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I actually experienced the same problem with some orissa spores I bought from a non-vendor a couple months ago.. The company kinda rhymes with Spores Have-No-Fun!!  Nothin' but Myc piss and fungal blobs on my casing..  I was actually contemplating killing myself...  Until I received a divine message from one of the Psilocybe Saints known as St. Paul Menace who introduced me to a faultless strain that I have not looked back on...  Nor shall I ever!




Aw man, I'm trying to get a print of that P.Menace strain it seems to have a real good reputation on here but for some reason I can't get into the marketplace yet, I think I have the criteria to get in but can't find it!

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    #8657692 - 07/20/08 04:19 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

definitly mushrooms spiece from chernovil ;(


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Re: mutant? lumps instead of pins --how with pics [Re: jeetered]
    #8657776 - 07/20/08 05:33 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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Give them a nice cold shock, and see if that helps them turn over. It can't hurt, but it might help...




cold shocking does absolutely nothing for ps.cubensis, it's a myth.




It does something - it slows growth to a crawl for a little while and gives contams a little window to take hold while the mycellium is still slow to react. That's at least something.


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Re: mutant? lumps instead of pins --how with pics [Re: PowerOfTheCoir]
    #8659704 - 07/20/08 04:36 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

-Thank you guys for the knowlege, I will not take the chances of cold shocking ANYMORE.

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Re: mutant? lumps instead of pins --how with pics [Re: HazeyRoms]
    #8659949 - 07/20/08 05:35 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

I am having trouble with these things too these lumps.  I have been spending hours on this site trying to figure out why they are there.  Alot of people that have them have fluctuating temps into the eighties then down to the seventies, or sixties to seventies, bad air exchange, not enough light, or humidity problems.  On other posts I have read it seems like they are some form of mutant that maybe Lysol has caused?  Some people get pins on a second flush some don't also.  I do not know but I cleaned out my entire set up, perlite, tubs everything last night and regulated everything really well.  The cakes look a little different today they had aerial growth which no longer is there and I think I see some small pins.  If I figure anything out I will post.  I hope it works out for ya

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Re: mutant? lumps instead of pins --how with pics [Re: grasshrum]
    #8663779 - 07/21/08 04:05 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Rumor control - Lysol doesn't cause mutants.

If used nearby mycellium, but never allowed to actually touch it, the fumes will have no effect.

Lysol is mostly concentrated alcohol. If it contacts living myc tissue directly, it will kill the tissue. This usually results in pins/ect. aborting and other tissue just remaining dead (and vulnerable to contamination) until the surviving mycellium can recolonize that area. It does not change the genetic code of anything, so it doesn't cause mutations. If a growing mushroom has some cells killed but does not abort, then the remaining cells may grow and this uneven growth will cause a deformation. Clones made from the living areas, however, would produce the original shroom without the Lysol deformities.


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Re: mutant? lumps instead of pins --how with pics [Re: PowerOfTheCoir]
    #8664112 - 07/21/08 05:43 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Lysol/ammonia affected mushroom below, deformed and sterile


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Re: mutant? lumps instead of pins --how with pics [Re: PowerOfTheCoir]
    #8664137 - 07/21/08 05:49 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

oh ok I just thought it may be a possibility not because of the anti mold/fungus/bacteria/etc ingredients.  I was thinking it was because chemicals in foods made today have been shown to stimulate weird growths including cancer in humans.  I was thinking that another ingredient in it got on the cake through the humidity since I sprayed down my fc with Lysol three weeks prior and the cake had drops on it.  Then I thought one of the ingredients not the disinfectant ingredients stimulated weird growths.  Any who, whatever it was, Everything I did the night before got them pinning.  So if you are having the blob problem I would suggest Cleaning everything out completely and perfectly regulating their environment.  It worked for me.

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