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First post, 2nd grow.
    #8507123 - 06/10/08 11:52 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Hello community! Long time lurker, first post. This is my 2nd grow attempt, the first being a young teenage immature attempt where I picked the fruits before they could barely mature like a greedy impatient fool (lol)

Hindsight is 20/20 isnt it?

Well I just inoculated 12pints of BRF.

6pints equador
6pints mazapatec

All from THE.


I cant wait, im also trying to get into weilii hunting since I am in the appropriate area. I may as well considering there are plenty of others right under my nose finding them and having a blast.

I mainly want to meet some folks if possible and just be in the community. Ill let you know how the grow goes :smile:

Edited by RogerRabbit (06/11/08 07:22 AM)

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Re: First post, 2nd grow. [Re: digitizedsoul]
    #8510235 - 06/11/08 06:53 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

1.5 days since inoculation. Nothing yet.

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Re: First post, 2nd grow. [Re: digitizedsoul]
    #8510319 - 06/11/08 07:25 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Welcome to the shroomery.  I edited your post to remove your location, which is strongly discouraged here for your own safety.

It will take a week to see growth from spores in most cases.  Put them away and forget it for awhile, which gives you plenty of time to study the forum and learn while you wait.
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Re: First post, 2nd grow. [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #8510343 - 06/11/08 07:34 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Good call, and thanks.

Yeah I know the usual time is around a week, but last time I had a stroke of luck on a few that colonized rather quickly.

That was a long time ago though and my memory could be deceiving me.

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Re: First post, 2nd grow. [Re: digitizedsoul]
    #8510420 - 06/11/08 08:07 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Probably is. wait patiently, you will see growth later next week if things are right. Good Luck


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Re: First post, 2nd grow. [Re: Mephisto616]
    #8511290 - 06/11/08 01:18 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

I wonder which will colonize faster? The mazapatec or ecuador strain.

Both spore syringes were very healthy and FULL of spores which was very nice.

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Re: First post, 2nd grow. [Re: digitizedsoul]
    #8518738 - 06/13/08 07:53 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

3 days. Still not even a spot of Myc growth on any of the 12 jars.

I inoculated them a few hours after boiling. They felt normal to the touch. I wonder if they were warmer inside then I Thought?

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Re: First post, 2nd grow. [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #8518757 - 06/13/08 08:04 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

RogerRabbit said:


It will take a week to see growth from spores in most cases. 
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Re: First post, 2nd grow. [Re: blood4blood]
    #8523433 - 06/14/08 12:49 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

:grin:

Got growth in most jars at innoc points :smile:

That beautiful white burst.... oh how I love it..

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Re: First post, 2nd grow. [Re: digitizedsoul]
    #8526061 - 06/15/08 06:41 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Here is a pic from yesterday...


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Re: First post, 2nd grow. [Re: digitizedsoul]
    #8526093 - 06/15/08 07:25 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

:dancingshroom::dancingshroom::dancingshroom::dancingshroom::dancingshroom::dancingshroom::dancingshroom::dancingshroom:

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Re: First post, 2nd grow. [Re: Blutjager]
    #8526109 - 06/15/08 07:35 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

I know i'm stoked. Although i'm still trying to decide what to do with 6 pints of mazapatec and 6 pints of equador.

I wanted to try making a case out of 3 of each, just birthing the remaining 6 into a FC.

I wonder what a good intro basic casing method would be... Pure perlite? Perlite / vermiculite?

I want to get one of those flushes like you see folks posting pics of all the time with an entire tray full of healthy full size mushrooms :smile:

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Re: First post, 2nd grow. [Re: digitizedsoul]
    #8526646 - 06/15/08 12:24 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

No thoughts eh? I don't believe that for a second :smile:

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Re: First post, 2nd grow. [Re: digitizedsoul]
    #8529007 - 06/16/08 05:39 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Ok well I guess no one know anything about casing? Either that or they have no desire to share it with me in answer form.


My next question is could my jars colonization time be quickend by putting the jars in my outside storage closet instead of my inside one? Temps can reach 85-90 out there and rarely see above 70-72 in here with the A/C.

They are colonizing, but AGONIZINGLY slow and I was just curious if that is the cause. All other things are flatline (moisture content was spot on, etc)

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Re: First post, 2nd grow. [Re: digitizedsoul]
    #8532705 - 06/17/08 06:16 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Wow.... really not feeling the love here which is strange. I see it, its there, just not getting any :frown:

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Re: First post, 2nd grow. [Re: digitizedsoul]
    #8532708 - 06/17/08 06:23 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Stop bumping your own thread, half of the Shroomery is asleep right now.

Here:

http://www.shroomery.org/54/50-50-Casing-Tek

The temps your jars are at presently are fine. 85-90 is way too high and the mycelium will suffer for it.

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Re: First post, 2nd grow. [Re: wisp]
    #8533178 - 06/17/08 10:17 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Sounds good i'll keep them inside.

They are just colonizing rather slowly compared to what i've read from others.

I did use really coarse grade vermiculite instead of the fine grade stuff, so maybe that is contributing?

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Re: First post, 2nd grow. [Re: digitizedsoul]
    #8533806 - 06/17/08 02:12 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

First off, your jars are very, very full, which is going to increase the time it takes for full colonization (More fruits though, I suppose, so, it's a good tradeoff IMO)

But, it's not uncommon for a jar to take 15-30 days after germination to achieve full colonization.

I was growing some enoki mushrooms (:D) on BRF cakes, and my last jar took over 3 months to fully colonize... The others took less than a month... And all came out fine, contam free.

Just put it on a shelf, up high, and come back in 10 days or so. It's been 7 days... Seriously, barely enough time to germinate let alone grow...!

For my first flush, I normally get around 4g "street dry" or 3g "Cracker dry" (I make chocolates for friends)... To do this, I use a full jar like you have, and use a bit of honey in the water used to hydrate the verm/brf cakes before steam sterilization... But, the best way to get good fruits is a large amount of FAE, pick up a cheap 10$ aquarium pump and an airstone on an online auction site, and have it pump air into a glass of water in the FC.

Basic casing, I'd just use a 50/50 mix of your choice, Coco coir is alright, but it's got nutrients in it, which increases your chances of contams... I've always used potting soil + verm successfully, with 3-4 flushes per casing without contams...

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Re: First post, 2nd grow. [Re: Kagenical]
    #8534327 - 06/17/08 04:35 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Awesome reply thanks bro.

Yeah i'm considering casing 3 of each strain since I have 6 jars of both, and just cake birthing the remaining 3 of each strain. That should give me ample shroomage from 6 cakes if both casing attempts fail miserably from my newbiness.

I will probably do something simple like peat moss / vermiculite as a caseing. I really want a pan full of nice tall juicy fruits :laugh:

I am trying to stock up for the rest of the year. It is a bit tough with my travel / work schedule so my goal is to do this to a point where I won't have to grow again for a while.

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Re: First post, 2nd grow. [Re: digitizedsoul]
    #8536837 - 06/18/08 11:19 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

3 jars haven't germinated yet but i'm going to leave them for a while to not waste spores re-innoculating.

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Re: First post, 2nd grow. [Re: digitizedsoul]
    #8536886 - 06/18/08 11:32 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Read buddy, seriously, read, read, READ.

Tek's, FAQ's and if you have specific questions then post them here.

We're glad you're excited, and wish you luck, but this isn't a forum for posting progress on your grow, that's the Grow Log forum, this is for specific queries.

Keep reading, you'll find everything you want to know, and more! And if you don't, search for it here. And if you still find nothing, then post a question.

Best of luck. :thumbup:




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Now with Pics [Re: digitizedsoul]
    #8689054 - 07/27/08 04:36 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Here are the pics of what turned out:

First flush, two cakes still in jars.



Nice view



Nice up close (can't focus camera sucks)



This is the best shot I have :laugh:



I can't wait for the rest of them to start fruiting. They are all several days behind on birthdays so that explains it. Also 3 of them are mazapatec which seem to be fruiting / colonizing / pinning and pretty much everything a lot slower than the EQ's.

Thanks for viewing, enjoy the mycoporn :laugh:

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Re: Now with Pics [Re: digitizedsoul]
    #8689129 - 07/27/08 04:54 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

do the paper towels keep the hummidity up or is there something I cant see in the pictures?

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Re: Now with Pics [Re: digitizedsoul]
    #8689130 - 07/27/08 04:54 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

What are you doing to keep the moisture up?


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Re: Now with Pics [Re: The]
    #8689141 - 07/27/08 04:57 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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do the paper towels keep the hummidity up or is there something I cant see in the pictures?




Paper towels can be used effectively to raise rh if perlite can not be obtained.

Perlite is preferred, but paper towels will suffice.


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Re: Now with Pics [Re: psylopsycho]
    #8689151 - 07/27/08 05:00 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Heh, I actually moved my tub over to a different area with better lighting for the photos, and that was a blanket underneath that you could see through.

I do use paper towels though in the areas between cakes and the corners where water pools. I find this to be an effective method so far.

I think with the mycelium growing all over the base of those big ones that perhaps my RH is even a bit high?

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Re: Now with Pics [Re: digitizedsoul]
    #8691557 - 07/28/08 08:24 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Anyone have any thoughts on mycelium growing on the base in large quantities? High RH? Will this matter since i'm going to harvest the entire "clump" ?

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Re: Now with Pics [Re: digitizedsoul]
    #8691627 - 07/28/08 09:02 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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Anyone have any thoughts on mycelium growing on the base in large quantities? High RH? Will this matter since i'm going to harvest the entire "clump" ?




Its still mycelium,it just looks funny but every things made of the same stuff = No Problems :thumbup:

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Re: Now with Pics [Re: Blutjager]
    #8691980 - 07/28/08 11:31 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah I figured. I bet that clump will weigh at least 4g dry with the whole "mass" of it on a scale.

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