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Truth, Love and God
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Love is the truth, the answer. The answer and the solution to human weakness and suffering which plagues us with the illusion of separation from each other, from this earth, and from everything. Everything you see is God. Everything you see is derived from nature and is a form of energy. It has all come from the same light that gave birth to everything. The conception that you are any different from anything you look it or touch is an illusion for it will all eventually be restored to the the light.
Love is what brings us together. Love is the solution to everything. We often act in ways that don't represent our thoughts without the realization of doing so. Being truthful in every aspect of the word, with yourself and others, is love. Don't act with pride, greed, hate, jealousy. Realize yourself and know your weakness. Open your eyes and be aware of the love and the hate. Use your love to fight the hate.
We must strive to overcome our weaknesses with love. Give love to one another and let it spread so that your light may be felt.
Don't be fake, even if you are kind in this way. Show your enemies the truth so that you are one with love and not the evil that has empowered the downfall of many of the children of humanity.
Be one with Truth, Love and God.
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Re: Truth, Love and God [Re: ohmyradical]
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just some thoughts
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Re: Truth, Love and God [Re: ohmyradical]
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our weaknesses with love
Where does tough love fit in??
Sunshine/light has the power to fuel life. Also it has the power to burn/cook a human being.
Does the Sun care??
Where does love come from??
And what is TRUE love??
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Tough Love is Love, yes. Soft love is not really love. The truth you have found is your weapon to fight against the evil your brother's blindness has brought about. If your eyes are open, don't just witness, but teach and open the eyes of those around you.
Sunlight does have the power to fuel life, yes. But what about the light that is God. Have you ever read of near death experiences. Do you ever wonder why they come back changed and preach about love and the white light? I have died and have seen the light believe it or not. My lungs failed me and I couldn't breathe and was clinically dead for about a minute. In that minute, I was one with the Creator and I knew all of my wrong-doings and understood all the hate I had conflicted others with. But He understood why I had chose to do the things to do and urged me to go back and give my love to others.
We have all been born before, you see. When you die, you will remember where your place in everything is. We are souls brought here to learn so that we may become one with truth.
The sun is just as much us and God as anything else in the earth. Everything has been made with purpose with the Maker's plan to be fulfilled.
Love comes from the realization of self, and the realization of self as one with everything, truth, one another, God, plant life. It is that voice in your head that you call your conscience. It is the voice in your head that truth.
True love is God. And know yourself and you will find true love.
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Re: Truth, Love and God [Re: ohmyradical]
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I have died and have seen the light believe it or not.
And I have died and been given a vision also. Why are they different??
Everything has been made with purpose with the Maker's plan to be fulfilled.
I am not a 'Maker' also...?? Why not??
and the realization of self as one with everything, truth, one another, God, plant life.
Is one allowed the FREEDOM to purposely cut themselves off from this system?? At least with belief, subjectively??
It is that voice in your head that you call your conscience. It is the voice in your head that truth.
There was a time when I would agree. You're talking to a recovering schizophrenic. Any ideas on how to get those 'voices' out of your head?? That'd be nice. The voices parrot whatever you're most afraid of, and everything that you would never want to hear, see, feel. Do you believe in the shadow as a REAL component of the psyche?? I do. How come I didn't get White Light??
True love is God.
I've experienced a fiery, angry, wrath type God. Judgment if you will. And I flipped him off cause I didn't feel love, more punishment. Why??
A good BULLSHIT story is suspect.
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Brother, tell me more about your experience. Rarely have I heard of a negative near-death experience. Perhaps you need to look inside yourself and find out why you were subjected to such an experience. I hope you are not directing that last comment towards me. In my experience I was being sucked into a void, but the void was a shining white light that was comforting, although I knew once I got there that there would be no turning back. I was judged in a way, but offered comforting and an enlightening sense of new beginning and love. I returned thankful and changed.
I am not schizophrenic, but in my own thought pattern I have found the cycle of anger, lust, greed, hatred, as well as peace, love, happiness, and understanding. There are single thoughts or thought streams that are purely love and to me that is the voice of God.
You are a maker, of your own reality. But what about the intelligence beyond you?
You cannot cut yourself away from God. And God is everything. You can try to shut everything out, but your soul will be brought back to the light.
And if you died and saw an God of judgement, then why do you reject Him. If you believe that your vision was real, then why do you respond to a higher power with hate? Maybe you should look to love in yourself brother.
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Re: Truth, Love and God [Re: ohmyradical]
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NICE MAN.
Brother, tell me more about your experience.
I'll PM it to you, perhaps. Its hard to pull all together in narrative with text... I'll get it to you. It was over three years ago and I'm still trying to condense things into a droplet, of sorts.
Perhaps you need to look inside yourself and find out why you were subjected to such an experience.
Emerald city turned city of the rising Son. Fuckin snake haven. Demons, man. Pressure. I felt like BAD SHIT flowed to me, which I perhaps don't even believe in, but it was not of my experience, If you know what I mean.
Gnosis bolt to the crown, hovering saucers, and word/image association tests of meaning and route.
I hope you are not directing that last comment towards me.
Omni broadcast for the storytellers.
But what about the intelligence beyond you?
What do you know of this intelligence??
You cannot cut yourself away from God. And God is everything.
Western civilization is proof that this is entirely possible. DUDE IS MIA, mane.
And if you died and saw an God of judgement, then why do you reject Him.
For his nonacceptance of REALITY. And exclusive head space priority. And his agents of the game. PROBABLY ALL ME, IMO.
If you believe that your vision was real, then why do you respond to a higher power with hate?
I was convinced that I was mentally ill. I believed that I had ruined the function of a healthy brain by pursuing the voices that you speak of. Absolutely seriously. IS IT ALL IN MY HEAD...?? Like the ones holding the sacred symbol(s) told me??
Maybe you should look to love in yourself brother.
It overflows under the right circumstances. But its not something that I'm willing to display for everybody, cause they don't really deserve it in my EYES.
A lot of people in my mind haven't even taken the first steps, imo.
Is it that they don't care?? Not interested?? Convinced otherwise?? I'm insulted by that. And also insulted by the Church.
What is this middle ground?? And why is God not described as Both??
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What do you know of this intelligence??
The intelligence I have seen beyond this world was one so pure it is indescribable. Its power and love was so far beyond anything even concievable to mankind that it gives me chills to think about. We are all Gods in our own reality, but if we aren't one with our true self, then how are actions and thoughts worthy of even ourselves? It is as if we are are all kings to our own castle, but if we go around destroying our castle or let it decay, we have nothing. Similiarly, we are all Gods of our reality, but if our thoughts and actions aren't alligned with love, we are letting ourselves perish.
Western civilization is proof that this is entirely possible. DUDE IS MIA, mane.
I agree with your line of thought here. But in time, the people and ideas the rule us will pass and in their futures beyond this existence they will learn the truth. They will know their faults.
For his nonacceptance of REALITY. And exclusive head space priority. And his agents of the game. PROBABLY ALL ME, IMO.
I was convinced that I was mentally ill. I believed that I had ruined the function of a healthy brain by pursuing the voices that you speak of. Absolutely seriously. IS IT ALL IN MY HEAD...?? Like the ones holding the sacred symbol(s) told me??
I have always believed that schizophrenics are either here to relay or accept a message or souls that have progressed thoughout their lives to the point where they are held to a higher standard. I believe you may be the latter. You seem to be an enlightened individual. No, I don't think it's ALL in your head. But rather exposure to some of these voices has affected your own mind enough to remove you somewhat from what many like to call a normal reality. But try to remember your place in existence, brother.
It overflows under the right circumstances. But its not something that I'm willing to display for everybody, cause they don't really deserve it in my EYES.
A lot people in my mind haven't even taken the first steps, imo.
Is it that they don't care?? Not interested?? Convinced otherwise?? I'm insulted by that. And also insulted by the Church.
What is this middle ground?? And why is God not described as Both.
You are right when you many haven't take the first steps. They are lost and blind. But don't respond to their weakness with a lack of love. For this is most likely why they walk with eyes closed. But use your intelligence to guide them. Give the tough love, as you metnioned. Be your enemies or be your friends, they deserve your compassion and love so that they may eventually see well enough to look inside themselves.
The church is full of many blind people. Religion is corrupt. This is nothing new and I know you understand this as do many others. These people are our enemies, but we must love them. Again, tough love. We cannot stand around and watch them perish, or we are as guilty as them.
Human understanding is often inadequate to get it's head around God. We are all deprived of knowledge in some form, for none of us of perfect. I know there are many things I lack and I have many weaknesses also. But we are all suffering in some form and longing for love, often subconciously. To find it, we need to realize ourselves and our union with everyone else. Then maybe the church and all those hipocrites who are as blind as the murderers and politicians and anyone who fails to recognize their place in exististence will see well enough to get off the banstand and accept the truth.
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Re: Truth, Love and God [Re: ohmyradical]
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Cooped up in a castle?? I'd rather demolish the castle with a SHIT CATAPULT, haul the stone out in the middle of nowhere, and build a crazy calender in astrological alignment. You know something that we can ALL maybe dance around... Certain times of the year... While we get IT slammed through the BULLSHIT belief of the time. Perhaps with the assistance of the OG himself on the mic.
But try to remember your place in existence, brother.
Well... I'm the Christ, no?? Aren't we all??
These people are our enemies, but we must love them.
A shot in the top of yer ass is what you get For exploring your mind to come back with some REAL SHIT.
People will get what's coming to them... Do I hear wailing and gnashing of teeth?? I'd LOVE to help.
But, YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE ME. THAT'S HOW IT WORKS.
"Take just what I came for, then I'm our the door again..." -MJK
FOR THE KINGDOM IS AT HAND, BROTHER. (imo)
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Re: Truth, Love and God [Re: ohmyradical]
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ohmyradical said: Love is the truth, the answer. The answer and the solution to human weakness and suffering which plagues us with the illusion of separation from each other, from this earth, and from everything. Everything you see is God. Everything you see is derived from nature and is a form of energy. It has all come from the same light that gave birth to everything. The conception that you are any different from anything you look it or touch is an illusion for it will all eventually be restored to the the light.
Love is what brings us together. Love is the solution to everything. We often act in ways that don't represent our thoughts without the realization of doing so. Being truthful in every aspect of the word, with yourself and others, is love. Don't act with pride, greed, hate, jealousy. Realize yourself and know your weakness. Open your eyes and be aware of the love and the hate. Use your love to fight the hate.
We must strive to overcome our weaknesses with love. Give love to one another and let it spread so that your light may be felt.
Don't be fake, even if you are kind in this way. Show your enemies the truth so that you are one with love and not the evil that has empowered the downfall of many of the children of humanity.
Be one with Truth, Love and God.
Well stranger I will have to take issue with your post with all your dont's.
In fact you sound just like the Baptists I had to live through as a child.
Can you please show some evidence that there is a God.
Who are you to tell us how to behave? What gives you the authority to speak thus?
While I can agree with some of what you say I certainly don't agree with your presentation of yourself as an authority.
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Re: Truth, Love and God [Re: Icelander]
#8497202 - 06/07/08 07:45 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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The evidence is all around you. Look to your neighbor, look to your sorroundings. Look to yourself, and you see God. I am not writing here because I have authority over anything or anyone, but because I am here to spread love and truth in what I have come to concieve. You have your own free will, and as Buddha said
"Do not agree with anything you hear, even if I say it, unless it agrees with your own understanding."
If you do not understand what I say when I say Love is the answer, and if you fail to comprehend the meaning of God is Love, then my words have no meaning to you. But if you would like to take this discussion further, please go ahead, my friend.
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Re: Truth, Love and God [Re: ohmyradical]
#8497210 - 06/07/08 07:48 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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"Do not agree with anything you hear, even if I say it, unless it agrees with your own understanding."
I might use that ONE, dang.
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Cooped up in a castle?? I'd rather demolish the castle with a SHIT CATAPULT, haul the stone out in the middle of nowhere, and build a crazy calender in astrological alignment. You know something that we can ALL maybe dance around... Certain times of the year... While we get IT slammed through the BULLSHIT belief of the time. Perhaps with the assistance of the OG himself on the mic.
By castle I mean self, soul body spirit.
Well... I'm the Christ, no?? Aren't we all?
Yes, IN THAT THOUGHT we are all Christ.
A shot in the top of yer ass is what you get For exploring your mind to come back with some REAL SHIT.
People will get what's coming to them... Do I hear wailing and gnashing of teeth?? I'd LOVE to help.
But, YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE ME. THAT'S HOW IT WORKS.
"Take just what I came for, then I'm our the door again..." -MJK
FOR THE KINGDOM IS AT HAND, BROTHER. (imo
You cannot fight fire with fire, brother.
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Re: Truth, Love and God [Re: ohmyradical]
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This is not evidence my friend. I see the wonder of nature everywhere but do not need a god for that.
I do believe, as my subjective belief, that love is the answer to humanities problems. But that is a subjective belief of my own and my limited understanding of the Universe. I would never claim that I know this is absolutely correct.
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Re: Truth, Love and God [Re: ohmyradical]
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Rarely have I heard of a negative near-death experience.
I have read of many. The reason many people have not, is because THEY DON'T SELL BOOKS nor do they jive with the popular notion of a BEAUTIFUL AND HEAVENLY AFTERLIFE.
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I also have read of several myself. Some have described it as a hellish experience.
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By castle I mean self, soul body spirit.
YES, I know. I was actually speaking on the subject also...
You cannot fight fire with fire, brother.
How about with 'living waters.' Or FLESH and BLOOD...??
I'm digging a certain story from my childhood... THE SWORD IN THE STONE.
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Fair enough. It was my near death experience that made me believe in God without a doubt. Maybe you should read about near death experiences some.
http://www.near-death.com/oakford.html
^that is a really good one.
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Re: Truth, Love and God [Re: ohmyradical]
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What about the blindness with awareness, backfromthedead? Use your words as weapons.
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I'm 55 and have read hundreds of them. My personal belief is that they are the dream of the dying (or possibly dying) mind. Sort of a way to ease into death without excessive trauma sort of like going into shock from physical injury.
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This may be why near death experiences are often different in different cultures.
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But what about those who have been clinically dead and have witnessed doctors treat them? Or even better yet, witnessed confirmed events that happened in other wings of the hospital or other rooms? How do you explain this Icelander? My experience was more real than my existence here and the only thing that is anything like it (which is actually a lot like it) is DMT.
have you ever tried DMT Icelander?
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This may be why near death experiences are often different in different cultures.
But they simply are not at all. In fact, the exact opposite.
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I can't explain it. I find it interesting but do not think that speculating on it would prove to be a sure truth.
I have been put under several times in my life and haven't had the experience.
I have experience with DMT.
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Or even better yet, witnessed confirmed events that happened in other wings of the hospital or other rooms?
What did YOU witness in another room while unconscious or are you just parroting another's unsubstantiated story?
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ohmyradical said: This may be why near death experiences are often different in different cultures.
But they simply are not at all. In fact, the exact opposite.
Not true as far as I have read. Not everyone sees a tunnel or white light or God or dead relatives or wise teachers. So you will need to provide some proof that these experiences prove the existence of a God or an afterlife.
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Negative near-death experience> I have heard of a few too. But not quite as described by backfromthedead and I am always interested to hear negative experiences. I believe in hell, but only in a temporary sense. I allign my thoughts with Buddhism on that one. I don't believe in an eternity in hell, and I believe an eternity in heaven is rarely come by. I believe whatever we are subjected to, we are so that we may learn from it.
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I have also heard of NDEs where the experiencer was conscious but nothing was happening other than being surrounded by darkness.
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Interestingly not a single Christian having an NDE sees Mohamed nor does a single Muslim see Christ (unless they were raised in one religion and later converted).
This is pretty solid evidence that all NDEs are merely projection.
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What did YOU witness in another room while unconscious or are you just parroting another's unsubstantiated story? I didn't witness anything. I was immediately sucked out of this world. But if you did just a small amount of research, you would find that there have been confirmed events with the clinically dead claiming to have witnessed events near their body that have actually happened. My experience was amazing and beautiful and indescribable, but provides little evidence about anything for you. You may find others experiences more enlightening.
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Icelander said: I also have read of several myself. Some have described it as a hellish experience.
LITERALLY HELL
LAKE OF FIRE
DANTE'S INFERNO
It was like a Niacin flush, also. Like I was literally 'burning.' And I smelled dead. My entire apartment wreaked. It was so real. Very fuckin scary.
Especially alone, in a city, with no friends or family... That shit should be done in nature, imo.
And then everybody just brushes it off like nothing happened.
I swear that people 'knew' somehow... And its like people were dropping hints... Cause I was obviously LOST, absolutely.
People were crying in the next apartment, and I swear that they responded to my thoughts. But its like I didn't believe it.
And ultimately I felt like I was breaking a promise, or something.
Fuckin most bizarre shit I think one can go through...
I was treated by an Egyptian doctor, and I knew that he knew what was going on... He wouldn't tell me anything. Like I was on the wrong side of the equation...
I left treatment in far worse shape mentally than I had ever been. Listening to my families account of what they saw after I was drugged beyond any recollection is VERY unsettling.
Its as if the good Doc let the ghost into the machine with extremely powerful chemicals for my family to see, on purpose. They didn't see an angel, ya know??
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I believe we see God and some misconcieve God to be what they have always accepted. In any case, we have seen I higher power and this is evidence of just that.
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Good post. For you your experience supports your belief. For others (like me) a similar experience could lead to a different conclusion and belief.
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LITERALLY HELL
LAKE OF FIRE
DANTE'S INFERNO
It was like a Niacin flush, also. Like I was literally 'burning.' And I smelled dead. My entire apartment wreaked. It was so real. Very fuckin scary.
Especially alone, in a city, with no friends or family... That shit should be done in nature, imo.
And then everybody just brushes it off like nothing happened.
I swear that people 'knew' somehow... And its like people were dropping hints... Cause I was obviously LOST, absolutely.
People were crying in the next apartment, and I swear that they responded to my thoughts. But its like I didn't believe it.
And ultimately I felt like I was breaking a promise, or something.
Fuckin most bizarre shit I think one can go through...
I was treated by an Egyptian doctor, and I knew that he knew what was going on... He wouldn't tell me anything. Like I was on the wrong side of the equation...
I left treatment in far worse shape mentally than I had ever been. Listening to my families account of what they saw after I was drugged beyond any recollection is VERY unsettling.
Its as if the good Doc let the ghost into the machine with extremely powerful chemicals for my family to see, on purpose. They didn't see an angel, ya know??
I am sorry you had to experience that. How was such an experience brougt about? It sounds like something that happened to my friend on a high dose mushroom trip
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LITERALLY HELL
LAKE OF FIRE
DANTE'S INFERNO
It was like a Niacin flush, also. Like I was literally 'burning.' And I smelled dead. My entire apartment wreaked. It was so real. Very fuckin scary.
Especially alone, in a city, with no friends or family... That shit should be done in nature, imo.
And then everybody just brushes it off like nothing happened.
I swear that people 'knew' somehow... And its like people were dropping hints... Cause I was obviously LOST, absolutely.
People were crying in the next apartment, and I swear that they responded to my thoughts. But its like I didn't believe it.
And ultimately I felt like I was breaking a promise, or something.
Fuckin most bizarre shit I think one can go through...
I was treated by an Egyptian doctor, and I knew that he knew what was going on... He wouldn't tell me anything. Like I was on the wrong side of the equation...
I left treatment in far worse shape mentally than I had ever been. Listening to my families account of what they saw after I was drugged beyond any recollection is VERY unsettling.
Its as if the good Doc let the ghost into the machine with extremely powerful chemicals for my family to see, on purpose. They didn't see an angel, ya know??
How interesting. This could or could not be the result of some type altered brain chemistry. IMO it says nothing about you personally or where you are gonna end up.
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Re: Truth, Love and God [Re: ohmyradical]
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Just like I thought - a parrot.
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But if you did just a small amount of research...
So much for your enlightened state. You are wrong in your assessment of me and your presentation is far from loving. 0 for 2.
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The danger in doing "research" when you have a strong propensity for bias (belief) is that you often skip over or de-emphasise things that don't support your beliefs. This IMO, is often unconscious.
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ohmyradical said: I believe we see God and some misconceive God to be what they have always accepted. In any case, we have seen I higher power and this is evidence of just that.
I'm still not convinced that what I experienced was in anyway outside of my own imagination.
In that way, I maintain that we are all the 'higher power'... And that truly the body IS the temple.
Organizations of WE are something more, I would assume.
I feel we are the intelligence behind creation. Now we need to work together. Obviously.
Shit is... How you say...?? Finished.
How does everybody feel about Christ and mushrooms?? I feel that might make the difference, perhaps. Maybe healing, maybe hell... Naughty or nice?? And some Cannabis cookies for Santa's Clause??
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I am sorry you had to experience that. How was such an experience brougt about? It sounds like something that happened to my friend on a high dose mushroom trip
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I think love and self actualization would be much better than the idea of Jesus.
Whatever possible or type of intelligence there might be behind creation, I believe it is beyond our abilities of comprehension at this stage of our development and most likely forever.
I do agree that we need to find a way to work together for our mutual benefit but don't know how that might possibly happen except personally.
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IMO it says nothing about you personally or where you are gonna end up
But, I might have 'brothers' there, and they might need help with that...
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I'm still not convinced that what I experienced was in anyway outside of my own imagination.
In that way, I maintain that we are all the 'higher power'... And that truly the body IS the temple.
Organizations of WE are something more, I would assume.
I feel we are the intelligence behind creation. Now we need to work together. Obviously.
Shit is... How you say...?? Finished.
How does everybody feel about Christ and mushrooms?? I feel that might make the difference, perhaps. Maybe healing, maybe hell... Naughty or nice?? And some Cannabis cookies for Santa's Clause??
YES! I like your thought. Mushrooms are like divine moments or realization of self while marijuana can slowly bring you to such understanding over habitual use. I believe that everything is all one so we are all PART of the higher being, but on earth, we are weak.
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You take it from here friend.
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OrgoneConclusion: I don't know why you have to make a contest out of this, my brother. You are simply wrong. There IS evidence that supports the near-death experience.
http://www.near-death.com/evidence.html
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Just because he doesn't believe the same as you doesn't mean his eyes aren't "open".
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the idea of Jesus.
Christ is NOT Jesus... Jesus may or may not have been Christ...
John Allegro will explain that 'Jesus' was code for the mushroom itself... God's Son. The risen Saviour that can put you in touch with the 'FATHER.'
"And, he who doesn't EAT ME has no life in them..." Or something to that effect.
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But what about Buddha.
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I understand this icelander. But his eyes are shut because he responds with pride when saying something not in allignment with truth and denies my message of love.
To me this, is blindness. I hope that he see this.
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But what about Buddha.
Same thing, different day, different words, different story... Minus the western archetypes that tend to fuck with your head. I'd rather be empty at this point, then full of my own imagining of a HELL. Thats fucked. I don't think Buddhists are entirely honest about the psychedelic experience and how it has possibly shaped that teaching. Or maybe they are. I don't have much experience there. But, I do know that possibly its what's needed, also.
Fill yerself up?? Empty yourself out??
I took a gamble and went all in on the POT. Ironic... Like... Blind Faith...
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But those souls were alligned with truth, alligned with love. How can you deny this?
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You are simply wrong.
Very loving and arrogant at the same time.
Text on a website proves what exactly? Do you doubt I can point you to contrarian websites?
What do you think of all of Dannion Brinkley's failed 'predictions'?
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ohmyradical said: But those souls were alligned with truth, alligned with love. How can you deny this?
The experience more than the people, 'teachers', or what have you... Is what's important. Where did their teachings come from?? And how did they get there?? And why won't anyone actually put you in touch with that obvious, by now, part of natural history?? Or SOURCE.
I will not follow. I don't trust anyone. Look what's happened to 'TRUTH.'
And for all I know... Some dude is gonna show up, again, and give you the 'hidden' shit that you need... Right??
Can we count on this?? Should we??
IF THATS THE CASE: He's probably gonna whoop my ass... So I have a surprise for him. My own CROWN OF THORNS. And my own CROSS TO CARRY. Like... Hey I made one up too, it kinda works. I could use some POINTERS. I don't know man... SEEDS AND WEEDS?? Don't tell me that shit.
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Well we both have our points of view I suppose. No point in arguing anymore brother. What do you think of all Edward Cayce's fulfilled predictions? The point is there are two sides to everything, and in time truth will prevail...
But i still don't understand how you can't see that Love is the answer...?
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No point in arguing anymore brother.
Then go to a no-debate forum. Drop the 'brother' bit.
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What do you think of all Edward Cayce's fulfilled predictions?
You mean like the finding of Atlantis in 1968?There are none unless you really stretch.
I notice that you conveniently failed to answer my question about Brinkley, a very popular NDEer. Now why is that?
Yet you bring in Cayce, a fake who mistook dead people for live ones in his long distance health readings. V-e-r-y convincing.
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The point is there are two sides to everything, and in time truth will prevail..
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Most of Cayce's predictions DID come true and were VERY literal. Have you ever read about Cayce? I think not thoroughly enough, my friend.
I say no point in arguing becasue I am tired and this could go on forever and you refuse to let go of your stubborness and accept an open-minded perspetive.
Your are clever with your words but they only serve to avoid the truth. I have a feeling you know this and your weakness is causing you to say such things.
If not, you are blind and will remember me when your eyes have been opened, brother.
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Most of Cayce's predictions DID come true and were VERY literal. Have you ever read about Cayce? I think not thoroughly enough, my friend.
Look DB, I used to live in Virginia Beach in my navy days. Did you ever visit the A.R.E.? I thought not.
Instead of some vapid declarations why not list Cayce's top 5 hits for us?
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Cayce would repeatedly say that even the Lord of Lords could not accurately predict future events because human free will can alter and change the future. Cayce is referring to the Biblical account when Jesus is asked when he would return. His reply was:
"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." (Matt. 24:36)
Foresaw the Stock Market Crash and Great Depression
In 1924, Cayce predicted the crash of the market after a long bull run during the late 1920's. During the mid-1920's he chronicled the rise and fall of the stock market, teaching his clients how to play the bull market and how to prepare for the crash of 1929. He even outlined what growth industries would give them the best long term portfolio after the market reached bottom. Cayce should have been quite well-to-do with endowment from a share of their speculations, but his clients did not pay attention to the readings and failed to pay heed to his warning. Six months later, they lost all they had when the great October 1929 Stock Market Crash occurred. This was also the trigger for the Great Depression which Cayce also foresaw. In 1931, Cayce foresaw that the Great Depression would lift in the spring of 1933 which it did.
Foresaw revolutions in foreign lands
In March 1935, Cayce added that eventually, unless there is more of the spiritual attitude raised in groups here and there, world conditions would terminate in a revolution throughout many of the foreign nations. There was nothing in 1935 which caused much unrest. But in 1936, the Spanish Civil War broke out, Italy invaded Ethiopia, Japan invaded China, and Stalin elevated the Great Purges to star billing throughout Russia.
Foresaw the rise and fall of Adolf Hitler
In January 1934, Cayce predicted that Hitler would rise in power to reign over Germany. In August 1935, Cayce predicted that Hitler would remain in power until it will "come as an overthrow or an outside war."
Foresaw a world war that would begin in 1936
Cayce gave one of his greatest world prophecies in February 1932. He sweepingly outlined the course of most of the decade of the 1930's, which centered around:
"A great catastrophe that's coming to the world in ' 36, in the form of the breaking up of many powers that now exist as factors in the world affairs."
Cayce predicted the acceptance or rejection of the League of Nations in 1936, after which changes would come which would create different maps of the world. He detailed that before 1936 arrived the powers in Russia, United States, Japan and England, or United Kingdom would be "broken up", as indeed they were with major changes in the governments and policies of each nation.
Cayce began 1935 with predictions about a revolution throughout many of the foreign nations and finished up 1935 with his first grim predictions about a universal war which he described as the whole world on fire. He predicted that international patterns would spiral out of control after 1936, resulting in new national boundaries. By 1937 he foresaw both the beginning and the end of World War II. Cayce's readings continued to provide highly accurate predictions about the escalation of the whole world on fire, the U.S. entry into the effort to fight it, the establishment of peace, and the return to normalcy within the new world order. Early on he twice gave a highly accurate time frame for the ending of the war. Before the war even began, Cayce was describing the nature of the post-war era.
Foresaw America's 1941 entry into the war
America's entry into the war was revealed through a reading in July 1939 for a retired naval commander, which also contained a message of hope:
Question: "Am I likely to be recalled to active service within two or three years?" Answer: "The only likelihood will be in ‘41. This, too, if the people pray, and live as they pray, will pass."
Cayce ominously called the American Destiny, hinting about U.S. involvement in the great fire: America must remain:
"As it were - the balance of power in not only the money forces of the world but those influences that will later be for the manning of those powers where greater destructive forces will arise in those portions of the world..."
He laid out the worldwide scope of the conflict:
"Disturbance in Asia, that will be effective or active through the changes in Germany, Italy and especially through the Balkan forces or Balkan States, will produce a disturbance that may reach proportions that will become rather terrifying to all of Europe and Asia."
Foresaw a decisive World War II battle
On June 20, 1943, Cayce described a battle that would happen and determine the outcome and length of the world war.
Five days after making this prediction, the German and Russian armies clashed in the greatest tank battle of all time.
Foresaw the deaths of Presidents FDR and JFK
In 1939, Cayce predicted the deaths of two presidents in office:
"You are to have turmoil -- you are to have strife between capital and labor. You are to have a division in your own land, before you have the second of the Presidents that next will not live through his office ... a mob rule!"
President Franklin D. Roosevelt died in office in April 1945. In November 1963, President John F. Kennedy was assassinated in Dallas, Texas, when racial tensions in the United States were boiling.
"Unless there is more give and take," Cayce said, "consideration for those who produce, with better division of the excess profits from labor, there must be greater turmoil in the land."
Kennedy was killed during the beginning of the Civil Rights Movement. Great civil and racial unrest followed just as Cayce foresaw.
Foresaw India's independent from Britain
Cayce predicted that India would become independent from Britain.
This prophecy was fulfilled in 1947 when India began a transition to a democratic republic after independence from Britain.
Foretold archeological facts which later proved true
Cayce was equally as far ahead of the archeologists and paleontologists. It took nearly another 60 years for the predominance of evidence from around the world to prove Cayce probably correct in his claim that the human species is 10.5 million years old, that the Giza monuments in Egypt were aligned with the stars as of 10,500 BC, that the structure of the Egyptian religion was defined from astronomical relationships, and that an ancient civilization influenced the development of Egypt, Maya, and Bharati.
Foretold the discovery of the Essenes and Dead Sea Scrolls
Cayce correctly described the location of an Essene community which was discovered when the Dead Sea Scrolls were found. He revealed a series of information concerning Palestine which was given for people who were told they had been together during the life and times of Jesus. This data includes a description of the Essenes and their part in the advent of the Messiah, and is prophetic of the light thrown upon these mysterious people by the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls in 1948, fully ten years later after Cayce described them.
Foresaw the rebirth of the nation of Israel
In 1932, Cayce advised the Jews to regard the advent of Fascist anti-Semitism in Europe as the time to fulfill the biblical prophecy which foretold that the Jews would return to Israel.
In May of 1948, the nation of Israel was re-established just as Cayce predicted. This was followed by war between Israel and the Arab countries around it.
Foretold the discovery of the land from Atlantis
Cayce revealed that new land will appear in 1968 or 1969 off the east coast of North America, the so-called "rising of Atlantis".
It was in that timeframe that the Bimini Road was discovered in the Atlantic Ocean. Whether this is actually a road or natural, geologic erosion is being hotly debated. Many people believe this to be the actual portion of Atlantis that Cayce was referring to.
Cayce maintained that Atlantis was an ancient civilization that was technologically superior to even our own and that its last surviving islands have disappeared somewhere in the Atlantic ocean some ten thousand years ago.
Cayce revealed that the size of Atlantis was equal to that of Europe, including Asia in Europe. He saw visions of this continent of the past which had gone through three major periods of division; the first two occurred around 15,600 B.C., when the mainland was divided into islands. The three main islands of Atlantis Cayce named were Poseida, Og and Aryan.
He said the people of Atlantis had constructed giant laser-like crystals for power plants, and that these were responsible for the second destruction of the land. Cayce blamed the final destruction of Atlantis and the disintegration of their culture on greed and lust. But before the legendary land disappeared under the waves, Cayce revealed that there was an exodus of many Atlanteans to ancient Egypt. Cayce attributed the Biblical Great Flood of Noah to be a result of the sinking of the last huge remnants of Atlantis.
During Cayce's otherworldly journeys, Cayce would often reveal the past lives of those who would come to him for information concerning their health. A number of people who came to Cayce were told by him that they had past lives in the legendary lost land of Atlantis. In fact, Cayce revealed that a vast number of souls who lived past lives in Atlantis have been incarnating to America for a long time now to usher in a new era of enlightened human consciousness. In all, Cayce referred to Atlantis no fewer than seven hundred times over a span of twenty years.
Foresaw the collapse of Soviet Union and communism
Cayce predicted the failure of communism and the collapse of the Soviet Union:
"[Through Russia], comes the hope of the world. Not in respect to what is sometimes termed Communism or Bolshevism -- no! But freedom -- freedom! That each man will live for his fellow man. The principle has been born there. It will take years for it to be crystallized; yet out of Russia comes again the hope of the world."
Cayce's words, despite all disbelief, were fulfilled in 1991 when the Soviet Union dissolved as a nation, abandoned communism, and instituted economic and political freedom.
Foresaw the alliance of Russia and US
Cayce foresaw that Russia would one day become America's ally. Russia, he said, would be guided by friendship with the United States. The Soviet Union's attempt to rule "not only the economic, but the mental and spiritual life" of its people was doomed to failure.
"..for changes are coming, this may be sure -- an evolution or revolution in the ideas of religious thought. The basis of it for the world will eventually come out of Russia. Not communism, no! But rather that which is the basis of the same as the Christ taught -- his kind of communism."
Cayce's vision came true after the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991.
Foresaw Russian religious freedom and religious movement
Cayce predicted a strong religious movement would come out of Russia after the collapse of the Soviet Union.
In 1991, the fall of the Soviet Union and atheistic communism occurred as Cayce predicted. The resulting freedom to practice religion released a flood of Russian spirituality.
Discovered scientific facts which were later verified to be true
Cayce provided many descriptions of the workings of the world and the cosmos. Many of them seemed implausible in his day but during the past 50 years none of Cayce's comments about science or the natural principles of how the cosmos works has been unproven. Many have been proven and more and more of his ideas have come to form the basis of modern science.
Cayce described part of the fundamentals of what would become the sciences of weather and earthquake prediction in the later part of the 20th century, easily 30 years ahead of scientists. He predicted the existence of a ninth Planet (Pluto) many years in advance, and the discovery of major quantities of gold on the bottom of the ocean, which was discovered in the 1970's. He also attributed the main cause of motion in the earth's tectonic plates and crust to the motions and relationships of the planets, which the Trilogy thoroughly documents as an important scientific discovery.
Foresaw the rise of major technological industries
Closely related to his ability to read science well in advance of its practitioners, Cayce astutely predicted the broad stream of the technological future. He was able to fully describe the major technology industries which would drive the development of the American economy after World War II. Consistently, 10 to 30 years in advance of the economy, while ideas were still in their novelty stage, Cayce advised his clients to focus on all aspects of radio, telegraphy, telephones, communications and electronics industries which were associated with war products, deluxe fine furniture cabinetry for electronic products, composite woods and molded materials, and plastic resins. A man named David Kahn made millions of dollars with this information.
The following are some more of Cayce's most astute predictions about science and technology:
Discovered the existence of the long economic cycle
Cayce described a long term economic cycle of 24 to 25 years which predicts depressions and major recessions. Starting with a base year of 1907, every 24th or 25th year precisely describes an economic downturn. Based on Cayce's definition, the next major depression is forecast for the year 2006 or 2007. The cycle does not describe all of the downturns but it definitely describes the worst downturns.
Foresaw a shift of the earth's poles around the millennium
In the late 1920's and early 1930's, Cayce was the first to describe the concept of the shifting of the pole as a result of the crust of the Earth moving independently from the core of the Earth to bring different a surface area over the spin axis. During the past 30 years, this concept has received more and more attention by geophysicists, some of whom now seriously argue that the crust does move independently. Some geophysicists now also argue that the best way to explain a variety of paleo sea-level and other data is that it moves and shifts fairly frequently and more rapidly than previously imagined.
Cayce predicted changes to the earth surface to begin some time between 1958 and 1998. The cause of these dramatic earth changes will be the shift in the world's magnetic poles around the year 2000. Cayce predicted that when this pole shift occurs it would begin reversals in the world's climate so that:
"..where there has been a frigid or semi-tropical climate, there will be a more tropical one, and moss and fern will grow."
Cayce's prediction of a pole shift occurred in 1998. According to NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center, in 1998 something changed the earth's gravitational field which moved the magnetic poles closer together. The NASA article explained that as the ice on the poles melted, ocean currents moved water toward the equator, which factors researchers believe to be partly responsible, in conjunction with shifts in atmospheric patterns, for this ongoing shift in the earth's magnetic field. This NASA finding affirms Cayce's prediction of a pole shift.
Foresaw the rise of the aviation and radio industries
In May 1930, despite the deepening depression, Cayce predicted the industries which would become the next U.S. focus of industrial activity: those of the aerial nature; that is, radio and its associations; aerial and its associations. At the time, both the radio and aviation industries were still widely regarded as commercially unproven toys.
Foresaw the rise of new communications technologies
Cayce foresaw that exceptional changes and improvements would come in the communications and broadcasting industries: he pointed years in advance to the coming of TV, fax, telex, expanded stock ticker-tape services, and microwave transmission on land to replace copper wire.
Foresaw the great influence of aviation on the world
During the 1930's Cayce told his clients to get out of rails and to get into the air. In February 1933, he named the most outstanding change that would come - airplane manufacturing and transportation industry. In November 1942, Cayce predicted that air transportation will become more and more the basis of ALL relationships with other nations, countries, as well as the internal or national activity. By 1944 he predicted that any town that has any name will eventually be on an airline and when they're off it's as bad as being off the railroad (in another ten to twenty years).
Foresaw the development of infra-red vision for night vision
Cayce was probably the first human being to describe the concept of infra-red vision. Infrared night vision is now one of the mainstays of U.S. military superiority.
Foresaw the union of the radio and telegraph industry
Cayce foresaw the rapid integration and expansion of the communication industry which would be driven by the new technology. In October 1935 he predicted that by '39 should be a fact - that is, the united activity of Radio and the Telegraph lines. By the end of the 1930's the ITU had created the technical standards which allowed all forms of communication to inter-operate. In November 1942 he added:
"Thus, all communications are a part of this activity. This means not only radio and telegraph (for these must be eventually one) ... but more and more the air as the greater means of communications. With more and more satellite communication facilities coming on line, even in the 1990's, it is more and more the air."
Discovered an investment strategy that proved to be successful
In March, 1936, Cayce advised investing in allied industrials, that deal with preparations of war materials, for the next few months. But the industrials having to do with communications of all natures, for long terms.
Discovered a consumer products strategy that proved to be successful
In September, 1942, Cayce advised investing in any electrical appliances, all forms of home appliances, those of greater conveniences, - all of these will offer the greater investment now and for the future - for the next few years, at least. These consumer products drove the economy for a long time and companies which manufactured them become huge. It is still true today, in the form of computers and digital electronics. In March, 1944, Cayce again predicted post-war economic leadership for technology in all of the industrial products, including radio, ice box, automobile, lights. He predicted at the same time that TV would become an important consumer product before the TV broadcasting industry had even been conceived.
Foresaw the day of his own death
The last vision of the future Cayce received concerned himself. His visions would often warn him that he should not use his powers more than twice a day or serious health problems would occur. But because Cayce would receive thousands of requests for help, he would ignore these warnings and help them anyway. Many letters were from mothers who were worried about their sons fighting World War II. Cayce's final vision warned him that the time had come for him to stop working and rest.
But on January 1, 1945, Cayce announced that he would be buried in four more days. This was yet another prediction that proved to be true.
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ohmyradical said: OrgoneConclusion: I don't know why you have to make a contest out of this, my brother. You are simply wrong. There IS evidence that supports the near-death experience.
http://www.near-death.com/evidence.html
But that page contradicts itself since it says explicitly that there is no scientific evidence. Let me quote from the page:Quote:
A scientifically controlled NDE that can be repeated which provides such evidence would be the scientific discovery of all time. However, science does not yet have the exact tools to accomplish this.
So all it boils down to is wishful thinking from a confused person who is afraid of death.
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Of course there is no scientific evidence PROVING that near death experiences are real. Then this argument would be over. But there sure is a LOT of evidence that strongly suggests there reality of it.
Scientific evidence that proved something like that would be almost impossible to come by.
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Cayce would repeatedly say that even the Lord of Lords could not accurately predict future events.
Case closed. An inaccurate prediction is called a 'miss' in psychic parlance.
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Cayce predicted changes to the earth surface to begin some time between 1958 and 1998.
I predict 20 major airline crashes between 2009 and 2049. I also predict that over five hundred million individuals will die and that the price of oil will continue to rise.
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Cayce would repeatedly say that even the Lord of Lords could not accurately predict future events.
Case closed. An inaccurate prediction is called a 'miss' in psychic parlance.
No. Do you agree that humans have free will? If you do, you should understand that our choices can affect the future. No one could know without a doubt the future, but possible futures can be revealed to us and also altered by our decisions.
I predict 20 major airline crashes between 2009 and 2049. I also predict that over five hundred million individuals will die and that the price of oil will continue to rise.
Who will now follow my teachings?
Was that Cayce's only fulfilled prophecy? Not at all. You picked the single most general one. What about the specifics my friend? Why don't you go through all the predictions I listed for you instead of picking the simplest one. I see where your thought is and your arguments are weak.
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So all it boils down to is wishful thinking from a confused person who is afraid of death.
"Although the mechanisms behind out of body experiences are not fully understood, this study seems to imply that there is less known than is the case. Some participants in the Shakti project, as well as many research subjects at Laurentian University's Behavioral Neurosciences program have had out of body experiences following low intensity magnetic brain stimulation. While the evidence does not yet allow a complete picture of the mechanisms of the out of body experiences to be formulated, it does remove it from the realm of total mystery." http://www.shaktitechnology.com/obe.htm
See: The God Helmet
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Anyway, go to http://myspace.com/sammyvmusic. It contains music I have made on my computer. Listen to I am Love is God is One. The lyrics are a good representation of the thoughts I have presented here.
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Sounds good man. There's some stuff I've been working on.
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One more.
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And some guitar work...
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No clowning my rap debut, BASTARDS!!
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I think the best example of NDE is this documented case of a lady that died, saw her grandmother and then a man whom she never met, though did not stop to talk about it....shortly after her mother in urgence told her that her father was not her biological father and that her biological father was a jewish guy who died in the war. She showed him the picture and it was the guy who she saw when she flatlined....
Moonshoe wrote the post about two years ago and he put the link i think...I believe in life after death, because of my experiences with ghosts and death itself. I had an NDE, though i didnt flatline, i felt what some would call the soul leaving the body, really it felt like an ice cube melting into hot water, shedding the ice cold body.
I dont feel like finding the link. What the fuck would i have to lie about anyways...I could feel good about myself because I have the right idea, but it wasnt myself who created it...so fuck it.
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so fuck it.
Can I get a HELL YEAH??
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Someone once heard a story, then told someone else who posted it on the net, then Moonshoe read it and posted it here, then you re-referenced Moonshoe's third hand account...
V-e-r-y convincing.
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That would take energy. I find BS to be draining rather than enervating.
BTW, I wrote a message on a poster in my bedroom. If someone can voluntarily NDE, read it and post the message - aw, forget it. No one takes my challenges.
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i'm lovin the music, backfromthedead. especially when you get there.
check out some of the more physchedelic stuff i've done
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and this one.
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and this one.
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k one more.
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I like tryin to recover a lot too. it reminds me a lot of buck 65. how do you make your music? what program do you use?? do you play the instruments? keyboard? let me know me man, i like.
also are you on youtube? i remember hearing something simliar to you style a while back, just thought it might have been you...?
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ohmyradical said: I like tryin to recover a lot too. it reminds me a lot of buck 65. how do you make your music? what program do you use?? do you play the instruments? keyboard? let me know me man, i like.
also are you on youtube? i remember hearing something simliar to you style a while back, just thought it might have been you...?
I run Pro Tools LE 7.1.1 at the moment. MacBook Pro and Digi 002 Rack pushing Event PS6 powered monitors. I play guitar/bass. I robbed those rap instrumentals from Limewire. You probably recognize the Neptunes track, I would imagine.
I wrote 'the birds'... And jammed it out with three layers of acoustic guitar. Then overdubbed the baseline and played all the drums on a keyboard one hit at a time.
I'm digging your stuff too. Some of it gives me an island vibe.
I will produce original tracks for those songs but I go back and forth between thinking they're the cheeziest shit I've heard, to liking them again.
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