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Subbedhunter420
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Ps. Subaeruginascens (Beginnings of cultivation)
#8492622 - 06/06/08 12:49 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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My friend checked our patch today and found more of the suspected subaeruginascens growing! Ill come back with prints, Habitat photos and samples later!
Edited by Subbedhunter420 (07/07/08 01:08 PM)
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Re: Suspected Ps. Subaeruginascens are back! [Re: Subbedhunter420]
#8492661 - 06/06/08 01:01 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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how were the palenopsis
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Subbedhunter420
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Re: Suspected Ps. Subaeruginascens are back! [Re: weiliiiiiii]
#8492857 - 06/06/08 02:04 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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still havent done them. haha. I did send samples out but Im going to have to wait till im psychologically prepared for a trip. Im too busy with two jobs and responsibilities.
on the other note, My friend, AlteredStates will be posting the pics. They were taken on my camera but he picked em before I got there so no habitat shots till the next flush, but that will occur within the next few days indicating how the patch is spreading and fruiting in different locations now on the property.
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Re: Suspected Ps. Subaeruginascens are back! [Re: weiliiiiiii]
#8492874 - 06/06/08 02:09 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Rad, can't wait for the photos subbed!! 
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weiliiiiiii said: palenopsis
Panaeolopsis
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Re: Suspected Ps. Subaeruginascens are back! [Re: Subbedhunter420]
#8492896 - 06/06/08 02:17 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hey everyone, this is my first post. I have here a few pictures of some suspected ps. subaeruginascens. I found them today at "the villa" like the previous subs and pan subbs found with subbedhunter420. hope you like them.


 note the bluing on the annulus, and the dark stem similar to subaeruginascens.

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Subbedhunter420
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Re: Suspected Ps. Subaeruginascens are back! [Re: alteredstates]
#8492906 - 06/06/08 02:20 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yup. we found em growing from landscaping woodchips alongside subbalteatus. The subbs are gone till the next rain or maybe never again at this spot. But we now know... This place is home to psilocybes.
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Re: Suspected Ps. Subaeruginascens are back! [Re: Subbedhunter420]
#8493041 - 06/06/08 03:01 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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NICE!!!
Yeah, that looks about right. Can't say for sure. The gills look bruised. I remember the gills of Ps. subaeruginascens bruising blue very quickly after being damaged.
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Re: Suspected Ps. Subaeruginascens are back! [Re: CureCat]
#8507385 - 06/10/08 01:23 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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This is the next little patch of suspected Ps. Subaeruginascens we will pick----
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Edited by alteredstates (06/10/08 01:25 PM)
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Re: Suspected Ps. Subaeruginascens are back! [Re: alteredstates]
#8507400 - 06/10/08 01:28 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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thats really interesting... keep us updated
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Re: Suspected Ps. Subaeruginascens are back! [Re: fliped]
#8507914 - 06/10/08 04:13 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Suspected Ps. Subaeruginascens are back! [Re: notorius gib]
#8508382 - 06/10/08 06:48 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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ha, ha incredible .
that the mushroom spirits guide you  as it already have
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Re: Suspected Ps. Subaeruginascens are back! [Re: cactu]
#8517854 - 06/12/08 11:43 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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There are more pictures headed here soon. I've been seeing so much blue I can't even believe it.
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Re: Suspected Ps. Subaeruginascens are back! [Re: alteredstates]
#8518179 - 06/13/08 01:51 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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can i ask you guys what state you're in? I'm in washington state...i got subbs around here, but I haven't seen any P.subaeruginascens yet. Exactly what kind of habitat is that? Tall decayed grass+woodchips+mud? Or what?
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Re: Suspected Ps. Subaeruginascens are back! [Re: tyler_0_durden]
#8518188 - 06/13/08 01:54 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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I find them in the Bay Area in wood chips, usually hiding under plants.
Psilocybe subaeruginascens
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Re: Suspected Ps. Subaeruginascens are back! [Re: CureCat]
#8518419 - 06/13/08 03:45 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Me and alteredstates are hunting southern california. In the coastal valleys. We found them in a horse community growing from landscaping woodchip debris/garden beds
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Re: Suspected Ps. Subaeruginascens are back! [Re: Subbedhunter420]
#8518728 - 06/13/08 07:45 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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and under plants. What type of plants are you finding them under curecat?
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Re: Suspected Ps. Subaeruginascens are back! [Re: alteredstates]
#8519770 - 06/13/08 01:32 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don't know. Some dense shrubbery... Auweia and "this other guy" found them under different plants, and transplants to different areas with different plants have been successful, thus, they are not dependent nor prefer a specific type, imo.
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Re: Suspected Ps. Subaeruginascens are back! [Re: CureCat]
#8524894 - 06/14/08 08:50 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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we found out a couple things about subaeruginascens
First of all, these photos from S California could be P. Subaeruginascens, but it's not clear enough to tell yet. The one outside photo looks the closest, but those are still too immature, and although those aren't pins, the pins can get pretty dark. (it's possible the finds here could be yet another new species. Seriously, ANY significant bluing psilocybe is rare in Southern California. Think about it Curecat, when was the last time you saw something like that in San Diego?)
I wouldn't be surprised if P. Subaeruginascens did show up in S Cali under watered conditions, even in high summer, since there are a couple related sub tropical and near tropical varieties documented from the East
In other words, these don't need the classic cyanescens temperature drop that happens in late fall.
There's a couple of things we found out so far about this rare and unique species. I have a friend in Europe testing these and so am I.
We found out this species blues nearly all the way down to the hyphae level, which is extremely unusual. (indication of very high potency, btw)
see here > http://www.flickr.com/photos/14930672@N04/2456559557/sizes/l/
Second, we found out it doesn't like standard malt agar nearly as much as oatmeal agar
This actually might have to do with a second discovery, that it actually likes hay. That's right, hay,
Horse food, rabbit food, pure organic, alfalfa hay (low protein content, and near straw, it seems to like as well)
Apparently it's the lignin content involved here as there's been a recent Australian symposium mentioning this species growing in elephant dung, and they specifically mentioned it's not the dung, but the high lignin content, such as hay and straw contained in elephant dung that subaeruginascens seems to like
see here > http://www.ima-mycology.org/doc/Book_2.pdf
It will grow in rye grain, but it likes oats much better. It likes a variety of woodchips and seems to have adapted to standard hardwood chips common to landscaping in California, including alder. This adaptation could warrant it's own scientific name
This California variety is very rare..It's only been seen in the wild about 5 times so far, so this is just the beginning. All of us barely have a clue as to why it's here and what it likes
research is ongoing and likely will be for years to come
some more photos > http://mushroomobserver.org/7112
when those finds in Southern California get more mature, send more photos, make a spore print, send it to a lab if you can
remember, that even tho it's in the Stuntzii family, this species is very potent! (at least on our end), if they are the same. They are more potent than cyanescnes, so only a couple mature specimens should be a good start
PS, thanks for the acknowledgment on Wiki with my photo. That made my day 
Not a one of us really knows what makes this species tick, but we'll find out eventually. It's mostly simple once you have the species contained, with only a matter of stuffing different dried out dead wood related species down the side of a bowl to see if the mycelium likes it or not.
it really is like that, but it takes a lot more patience than most people realize
Edited by auweia (06/14/08 10:24 PM)
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Re: Suspected Ps. Subaeruginascens are back! [Re: auweia]
#8525416 - 06/14/08 11:48 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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That is interesting about the lignin!
I have some mycelium running on black Scott's chips and alder, and it LOVEs both. I'll give some other substrate a shot.
BTW - I notice Ps. stuntzii HATES the black Scott's chips!
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Re: Suspected Ps. Subaeruginascens are back! [Re: CureCat]
#8527237 - 06/15/08 03:37 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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That is amazing auweia. And good to hear from you too! We have a good amount more pictures, healthy specimens and spore prints. The really bad thing though is that teh property we are finding these on just got flooded with NO TRESPASSING signs. Nobody lives there but the owners are trying to sell it. We found this out from Alteredstates blazing with the pool guy. We think a neighbor watched us since its really visible since its a hilltop.
Anyways... We decided that after the next flush we will take out the rest of the mycelium in the bed and transplant it to my garden. We have already both taken a bit of mycelium and I have it growing on straight peat moss and woodchips. I combined a small amount of bleach with water and added it to counter out the ph. It seems to be leveled at 6.5- 7.5 from the previous 5. Its growing at a much faster rate than cyan mycelium and in 5 days has already grown attached to the peat moss and woodchips I added. Its liking the 70-80 degree range. I see it growing faster around 70-75 but it can take pretty hot weather. I told alteredstates about the cardboard tek for spawn and he has stem butts and mycelium growing rapidly on it. We should have a finished product in a bed by next spring.
I am getting a 1101 EM within the next two weeks along with 60 plates, slides and agar mixes. I should be having a lot of fun real soon. BTW, what would be a good LC recipe for these??? I was going to try the honey tek and the Turbinado. Hm... Straw... Too bad i just threw out four crates of it I collected. rats like to make homes in it.
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