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New DVD drive help
    #8488206 - 06/05/08 12:31 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Just installed a new DVD player/burner on my PC. Now I need to get the damn thing to work. Real Player says I need to get a new decoder. Will this solve my problems if I download what they suggest or am I just wasting money?


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Re: New DVD drive help [Re: gluke bastid]
    #8488230 - 06/05/08 12:39 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Um...Will it play cds? Will it play dvd's? If you put in a store bought dvd you don't need a decoder. I don't get what you mean by it won't work.


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Re: New DVD drive help [Re: MHbound]
    #8488446 - 06/05/08 01:40 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

It plays CDs just fine using the existing software...when I put in a DVD an error message comes up in real player saying the DVD won't work because I don't have the correct decoder.

:shrug:

Before I put this in the PC had a cd player but not a DVD player.


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Re: New DVD drive help [Re: gluke bastid]
    #8488558 - 06/05/08 02:05 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Sounds to me like it has the wrong driver installed...

Try going to the device manager, and looking in to see if there is a DVD drive, and not a CD drive. If there is then there is your problem. Also check your bios configuration to see if somehow its still registering both the CD drive and DVD drive.

I bet its the driver. Which operating system are you using?


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Re: New DVD drive help [Re: gluke bastid]
    #8489856 - 06/05/08 07:52 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Sounds like RealPlayer doesn't have the codec to play DVDs installed and that's what it is asking for. What you had prior to the DVD player is irrelevant if the drivers were loaded correctly when you first installed the DVD drive.

Download this free player and try playing your DVD with it:

http://vlcplayer-download.info/?gclid=CIegn_La3pMCFQaYQAodv3T-WQ

After that report back.

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Re: New DVD drive help [Re: Wronguy]
    #8489882 - 06/05/08 07:57 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Yea that was my next guess, but I have NEVER seen a player ask for a codec for a dvd player. Is this possible? I mean sure anything is possible, but have you heard of this happening. My job is computers...I'm a network "guy", and I have never seen this. I'm just curious if you have..For future reference really.


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Re: New DVD drive help [Re: MHbound]
    #8489953 - 06/05/08 08:16 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

If you have any version of WMP that doesn't have the necessary codecs it'll tell you it can't play the DVD. As a computer guy I'm sure you know that being able to read a DVD and being able to Decompress the data are two totally different things. :wink:

No Coder/Decoder, or what ever you want to call it, no DVD playback or encoding.

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Re: New DVD drive help [Re: Wronguy]
    #8489994 - 06/05/08 08:25 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Hm...Thats interesting. I'm pretty young(just out of school in the real world), but still never ran across that one before. I see your point, and imagine that its possible. Usually they would come pre-installed. I guess his got corrupted or deleted some way. Or installing those codecs to play certain types of videos messed it up. Yea just use VLC media I've never had a problem there.


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Re: New DVD drive help [Re: MHbound]
    #8490270 - 06/05/08 09:19 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I guess I didn't make myself clear enough in my last post. A DVD player/burner can only encode (write data) or decode (decompress/read data). It takes software with appropriate codecs to actually interrupt what the data is.

Example: A CD you burned may contain say 15 MP3 songs. Well great. So what right? This data is absolutely useless without software to interrupt what the data is and appropriate codecs to deliver the sound, as in the case with MP3s.

Installing a DVD player/burner on your computer is absolute worthless without the appropriate software to interrupt and utilize the contents. Obviously this is the reason we have media players, burning software, and many other things on our computers. It's kind of like a CPU; it's absolutely worthless without a motherboard. DVD players/burners are just as worthless without software to process the data.

I'm giving you the absolutely basics here, but you get what I'm saying. I hope that clears everything up for you. :grin:

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Re: New DVD drive help [Re: Wronguy]
    #8490322 - 06/05/08 09:32 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I'm not too familiar with the media side of the computer, but I get what you are saying. I understand the basics of compressing, and decompressing data and understand its a very difficult process. I was just saying wouldn't most media players come with the codecs installed? I never had to download one for my dvd drive...Or is that just because they came with my PC?? Maybe he is using like windows 98 or something, or even 2000 I could see that, but I would assume with XP/Vista that they would come pre-installed since most PC's today come with DVD players. Thanks for the explanation I will at least be able to pretend I know what I'm talking about. I'm good with the 3 things...Securing networks, getting them up and running and keeping them running. The other stuff is just noise to me I'm clueless, but thanks!


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Re: New DVD drive help [Re: MHbound]
    #8492044 - 06/06/08 09:18 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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MHbound said:
I was just saying wouldn't most media players come with the codecs installed? I never had to download one for my dvd drive...Or is that just because they came with my PC??




Most newer media players will come with codecs to play DVDs, as not many people will pay for something that you can get on the net for free. Older programs on older PCs that don't have DVD ROM/RW will likely not contain software that can decode DVDs.

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but I would assume with XP/Vista that they would come pre-installed since most PC's today come with DVD players.




This helps explain some of the problems.
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Before I put this in the PC had a cd player but not a DVD player.




A computer that didn't come from the manufacturer with a DVD drive is highly unlikely to contain software that can play DVDs.

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Thanks for the explanation




You're welcome.

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Re: New DVD drive help [Re: gluke bastid]
    #8494286 - 06/06/08 09:34 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

ditch real player with the quickness, it is spyware ridden.  As another user said, download a good media player, I would also recommend VLC.  It will play a dvd no problem, and doesn't suck like real player.

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Re: New DVD drive help [Re: supra]
    #8494733 - 06/06/08 11:51 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Ya, don't use real player, too bulky of software. Use VLC, it can play anything, it doesn't use "codecs".

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Re: New DVD drive help [Re: Wronguy]
    #8503302 - 06/09/08 11:54 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Wronguy said:
Sounds like RealPlayer doesn't have the codec to play DVDs installed and that's what it is asking for. What you had prior to the DVD player is irrelevant if the drivers were loaded correctly when you first installed the DVD drive.

Download this free player and try playing your DVD with it:

http://vlcplayer-download.info/?gclid=CIegn_La3pMCFQaYQAodv3T-WQ

After that report back.




Wasn't free. I'm a cheapskate :grin:

Anybody know of a player that is like this but free? :money:


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Re: New DVD drive help [Re: gluke bastid]
    #8503418 - 06/09/08 12:39 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

VLC is free...Its open source. You can even have the source code.

http://www.videolan.org/


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Re: New DVD drive help [Re: gluke bastid]
    #8503602 - 06/09/08 01:39 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

As others have stated, VLC is awesome and free (if you paid for it, then you got robbed).

Usually, when you buy a DVD driver, it comes with DVD playback software, such as InterVideo WinDVD.  DVD-ROM (video & audio) playback algorithms are patented.  Any device that decodes DVD-ROM media must pay a bunch of royalty fees.  (For example, if a DVD player plays Dolby 5.1, then around $75 of your purchase goes directly to Dolby Labs in royalties!  This is why most players offload dolby digital decoding and DTS decoding to another device.)

Because Microsoft is CHEAP, they offload the cost of DVD playback to the end user and refuse to offer a media player that can decode DVDs natively.  If you want DVD playback, you have to buy DVD playback software, which ultimately sends a bunch of money to the patent holders...

... or you can use something like VLC that is free... and depending upon where you live, violate various patent laws every time you watch/decode a DVD with it.

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