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Eggshells?!
    #8483389 - 06/04/08 02:03 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I have 4 eggshells, rinsed off in hot water with soap and dried, crushed up in a bag.
I plan on pasteurizing them in the oven when its time to use them in my bulk sub.
Ill have more eggshells when the time comes for that though. I just have a few questions.

1) Has anyone ever used eggshells in their bulk sub? How did it effect it? Id love to know as much as possible before i just start throwing eggshells in.
2) At what temperature and time should i pasteurize my eggshells in the oven?
3) What exactly would eggshells do? Adjust the ph? Do they have any nutrients? (i would appreciate if this was answered by an experienced mycologist such as RR, but if it cant be, all answers are welcome.
4) Does anyone know the ratio i should use of eggshells?

Haha, sorry for so much, im just curious. Thanks in advance.

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[quote]RogerRabbit said:
Ah, that explains it.  Typical know-it-all noob.  We get a few thousand just like you register here every year.  They try a few grows, fail miserably and then after a few months or one bad trip, go back to sniffing glue, never to be seen again.

We have a basic pf tek that's idiot proof enough for noobs to get fucked up with their friends. 

Mycologists on the other hand grow for the love of growing.  They want to experiment with various species, substrates, and fruiting environments. They'll move on to isolate strains, attempt hybridization, and in general treat cultivation as an artform, rather than a chore that must be performed as a means to an end.  They'll work twice as hard for a ten percent gain, just for the love of perfection.  These are the ones who will isolate strains, not the dumb fucks who treat mushrooms as a drug, or even worse, a pathogen, as if mushrooms cause disease.
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Re: Eggshells?! [Re: TheBandit]
    #8483672 - 06/04/08 03:50 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

i just read somewhere that eggshells have calcium carbonate, and its the same stuff in hyrdrated lime powder and oyster shells.
....i wonder if it balances ph....i think thats a necessity with all the coffee grounds im using.


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[quote]RogerRabbit said:
Ah, that explains it.  Typical know-it-all noob.  We get a few thousand just like you register here every year.  They try a few grows, fail miserably and then after a few months or one bad trip, go back to sniffing glue, never to be seen again.

We have a basic pf tek that's idiot proof enough for noobs to get fucked up with their friends. 

Mycologists on the other hand grow for the love of growing.  They want to experiment with various species, substrates, and fruiting environments. They'll move on to isolate strains, attempt hybridization, and in general treat cultivation as an artform, rather than a chore that must be performed as a means to an end.  They'll work twice as hard for a ten percent gain, just for the love of perfection.  These are the ones who will isolate strains, not the dumb fucks who treat mushrooms as a drug, or even worse, a pathogen, as if mushrooms cause disease.
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Re: Eggshells?! [Re: TheBandit]
    #8483845 - 06/04/08 04:44 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I have also thought about that and was going to attempt to use them in a sub of castings and hay . I was thinking you should crush them up and pc them for a couple mins then add to sub and pasteurize.

I hope RR answers this one. I'm going to search for some info on here and see what I can find. I will post it if I find anything good.


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Re: Eggshells?! [Re: tonyshroom]
    #8483883 - 06/04/08 04:53 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I've used egg shells in steel cut oat jars before. 
I just mixed it together all dry and hydrated like normal and then pasteurized it all together.

I'm not really sure what kind of effect it will have.  I did it to create pockets of air and promote fluffiness, can't say it really made a whole lot of difference nutritionally though.  I would guess you'll need at least half a dozen to a full dozen, crushed thoroughly, to see a difference in your bulk substrate.

I did have wonderful mushrooms :wink:


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Re: Eggshells?! [Re: drwatson]
    #8483955 - 06/04/08 05:14 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

well, i have 8 now...so, i should definitely have more than enough by the time my jars are fully colonized (a week or so)

and tonyshroom, thank you for taking so much interest in this thread.


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[quote]RogerRabbit said:
Ah, that explains it.  Typical know-it-all noob.  We get a few thousand just like you register here every year.  They try a few grows, fail miserably and then after a few months or one bad trip, go back to sniffing glue, never to be seen again.

We have a basic pf tek that's idiot proof enough for noobs to get fucked up with their friends. 

Mycologists on the other hand grow for the love of growing.  They want to experiment with various species, substrates, and fruiting environments. They'll move on to isolate strains, attempt hybridization, and in general treat cultivation as an artform, rather than a chore that must be performed as a means to an end.  They'll work twice as hard for a ten percent gain, just for the love of perfection.  These are the ones who will isolate strains, not the dumb fucks who treat mushrooms as a drug, or even worse, a pathogen, as if mushrooms cause disease.
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Re: Eggshells?! [Re: TheBandit]
    #8483966 - 06/04/08 05:17 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I believe you can use egg shells to buffer the pH of either your substrate or your casing layer. I know you should use lime for casing layer and oyster shell for the substrate. Anyway, crush them when dried and add them in before you pasturize what ever your going to put it in with.


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Re: Eggshells?! [Re: ChinaBoy]
    #8483980 - 06/04/08 05:22 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

are you experienced with this, and know for a FACT that eggshells buffer your ph? because im using 7 qts of coffee grounds in my sub, and my ph definitely needs to be buffered.


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[quote]RogerRabbit said:
Ah, that explains it.  Typical know-it-all noob.  We get a few thousand just like you register here every year.  They try a few grows, fail miserably and then after a few months or one bad trip, go back to sniffing glue, never to be seen again.

We have a basic pf tek that's idiot proof enough for noobs to get fucked up with their friends. 

Mycologists on the other hand grow for the love of growing.  They want to experiment with various species, substrates, and fruiting environments. They'll move on to isolate strains, attempt hybridization, and in general treat cultivation as an artform, rather than a chore that must be performed as a means to an end.  They'll work twice as hard for a ten percent gain, just for the love of perfection.  These are the ones who will isolate strains, not the dumb fucks who treat mushrooms as a drug, or even worse, a pathogen, as if mushrooms cause disease.
RR [/quote]


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Re: Eggshells?! [Re: TheBandit]
    #8484171 - 06/04/08 06:26 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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TheBandit said:
are you experienced with this, and know for a FACT that eggshells buffer your ph? because im using 7 qts of coffee grounds in my sub, and my ph definitely needs to be buffered.




Get a cheap PH meter, and know for sure!


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Re: Eggshells?! [Re: endepth]
    #8484581 - 06/04/08 08:10 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Just a bit of info from a farm boy like myself...

I feed my hens oyster shells to help them create stronger, thicker egg shells,

So it would lead me to believe that eggshells would aid in the release of the mushrooms from your growth medium.

Just my thoughts.


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Re: Eggshells?! [Re: fantasy2reality]
    #8487344 - 06/05/08 09:40 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

BUMP!

Does anyone know if it holds any nutritional value?

Great minds think alike :getstoned:


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Re: Eggshells?! [Re: TheBandit]
    #8487406 - 06/05/08 10:03 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

TheBandit said:
i just read somewhere that eggshells have calcium carbonate, and its the same stuff in hyrdrated lime powder and oyster shells.
....i wonder if it balances ph....i think thats a necessity with all the coffee grounds im using.




Egg shells have calcium carbonate, the same as oyster shells, not the same as hydrated lime. Hydrated lime is calcium hydroxide. Crushed egg shells will do very little, but if you grind them to dust they will act as a long-term buffer just like oyster shells or gypsum.


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Re: Eggshells?! [Re: wisp]
    #8487438 - 06/05/08 10:16 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

do post your results bro


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Re: Eggshells?! [Re: wisp]
    #8490379 - 06/05/08 11:41 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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tripsis said:
Quote:

TheBandit said:
i just read somewhere that eggshells have calcium carbonate, and its the same stuff in hyrdrated lime powder and oyster shells.
....i wonder if it balances ph....i think thats a necessity with all the coffee grounds im using.




Egg shells have calcium carbonate, the same as oyster shells, not the same as hydrated lime. Hydrated lime is calcium hydroxide. Crushed egg shells will do very little, but if you grind them to dust they will act as a long-term buffer just like oyster shells or gypsum.




long term ph buffer? hm..thanks for clearing up that hydrated lime has calcium hydroxide and not calcium carbonate.


and anarchOi, i will definitely post my results.


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[quote]RogerRabbit said:
Ah, that explains it.  Typical know-it-all noob.  We get a few thousand just like you register here every year.  They try a few grows, fail miserably and then after a few months or one bad trip, go back to sniffing glue, never to be seen again.

We have a basic pf tek that's idiot proof enough for noobs to get fucked up with their friends. 

Mycologists on the other hand grow for the love of growing.  They want to experiment with various species, substrates, and fruiting environments. They'll move on to isolate strains, attempt hybridization, and in general treat cultivation as an artform, rather than a chore that must be performed as a means to an end.  They'll work twice as hard for a ten percent gain, just for the love of perfection.  These are the ones who will isolate strains, not the dumb fucks who treat mushrooms as a drug, or even worse, a pathogen, as if mushrooms cause disease.
RR [/quote]


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