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OfflinePSILOCYBE_RICKY
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dont wait to case dung? & dung juice *DELETED*
    #847394 - 08/27/02 06:18 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: dont wait to case dung? [Re: Macey Howard]
    #847868 - 08/27/02 09:14 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

You use the nutrient juice when it comes to making substrate.


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Re: dont wait to case dung? [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #847948 - 08/27/02 09:51 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

when i think about it dung juice in substrate jars is worthless. the reason why dung is pasteurized and not pressure cooked at 15 PSI is because we need to kill some of the microbes not all of them. so when the jars with the juice are sterilized all the nutrients are killed. am i wrong?


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Re: dont wait to case dung? [Re: PSILOCYBE_RICKY]
    #847959 - 08/27/02 09:54 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

no, the nutrients are not killed, only the microbes.


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Re: dont wait to case dung? [Re: PSILOCYBE_RICKY]
    #847966 - 08/27/02 09:55 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

>so when the jars with the juice are sterilized all the nutrients are killed. am i wrong?

Yes, you're wrong. You can't "kill" nutrients.


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Re: dont wait to case dung? [Re: Champion des Champignons]
    #848141 - 08/27/02 11:30 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Actually, some of the nutrients might break down. Raw fruits and vegetables are supposed to be better for you than cooked or canned ones because some of the good stuff breaks down or leaches out in the cooking process. However, the dung water, even if sterilized, would still have more nutrients in it than spring, tap, or distilled water. I've read sterilized natural water (like pond water) works well, too.


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Re: dont wait to case dung? [Re: funwithgus]
    #850199 - 08/28/02 10:52 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

You`ve just said that when vegetables are cooked some of the nutrients leech out, true.
But then that would mean that the nutrients leech out into the water? yep.
So ultimatelly you are saying exactly what we've said about the left over juice acting as nutrients for the new substrate.
The substrate absorbs the water and nutrients to supply to the mycelium.


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