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Re: 20% price increase [Re: zouden]
    #8469727 - 06/01/08 01:51 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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zouden said:
I'll see if I can comfort you, Moth

Savage wars, stupid greedy corporations and politicians at the helm
Hopefully this will change when Bush leaves office. It can't get any worse, at least.
deteriorating human health
Cancer is decreasing, heart disease is decreasing, life expectancy is up, "pixie dust" to regenerate tissue, cure for diabetes just around the corner...
environmental upheaval
Environmentalism is now a bigger issue than ever before... ten years ago only a few people (mostly environmental scientists) knew about global warming, now everyone's talking about it. It hasn't actually gotten much worse in the last 10 years, it's just getting much more coverage. This is a good thing!
not to mention science experiments that could destroy the planet - Hadron Collider
The LHC won't destroy the planet.
the economy is just sinking
It's a recession. They don't last forever. There have been seven recessions since 1980, and the majority don't last longer than a year.

The world has been through worse, and survived. Just relax and wait it out  :jointsmile:




SERIOUSLY, thanks, I got anxious.  I won't let "the fear" get me down!  BWAHAHA!  :royalrainbow:

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Re: 20% price increase [Re: StonedShroom]
    #8470104 - 06/01/08 06:41 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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I just know I'm going to wake up one morning and the entire USA will be at a screeching halt...





in many ways I hope it does but at the same time I know the
results, if it did you'd have good reason to be afraid, I'm
prepared and capable but 90% of the country isnt. My preparation
isnt like that of the conspiracy nuts, I've not stocked up on MREs
and bottled water, I'm not expecting race riots or any of the
other garbage, I just planned for sustainability

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Re: 20% price increase [Re: whattheheck]
    #8470114 - 06/01/08 06:56 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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whattheheck said:
The numbers really don't support all these incredible hikes in costs and the such. Just another excuse to bleed us.





my boss pay a fuel surcharge on glass that's delivered, each
order has that charge added to it, if he places 10 orders, each
has that charge even though it's all one trip, the last order
cost him $150 in fuel surcharges, there were 5 other deliveries
coming to the same area, each also with that charge... they dont
spread the cost of delivering it to all the customers, they rape
them, essentially our company paid for all the fuel, the next
paid for the labor, the rest was pocketed by the corporate fat cats

consider cheese for a moment since it was mentioned before, they
hiked the price a few percent with each gas increase, it's
doubled in 3 years, while the price of fuel has doubled instead
of spreading that load, we each pay it, it costs the same to
deliver 20lbs of cheese to a store as it does 20,000 lbs,
everything is picked up by the consumer, the only ones that
profit are the manufacturers, their profits increase with these
price hikes, and we're foolish enough to keep spending

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Re: 20% price increase [Re: zouden]
    #8470120 - 06/01/08 07:00 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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zouden said:
life expectancy is up




why does everyone believe this to be good?

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Re: 20% price increase [Re: PilzeEssen]
    #8470215 - 06/01/08 08:17 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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i was hanging out with a friend of mine the other day, and his mom was saying that dow is increasing the price of everything they make/sell on june 1st by 20%....

so everything you buy is going to cost 20% more starting june 1st 2008. tomorrow.

what the fuck is happening to this country?! were going through a HUGE change here. this country is fuuucked up.

anyone else hear about this? i hope its not true, but im sure it is.


dont believe everything u hear, the dow doesnt own make or do any of that shit anyways, its is just the way we buy and sell stocks which are going up because of oil, simple as that the dow has nothing to do with it...


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Re: 20% price increase [Re: misterdogman]
    #8470224 - 06/01/08 08:24 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

we already clarified that it's Dow Chemical, not the Dow Jones Industrial index

though Dow Chemicals price increase does put many other companies
in the position to do the same since they supply to almost every
industry in manufacturing but it also opens the door for other
companies unaffiliated to do the same based on price increase on
inventoried goods

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Re: 20% price increase [Re: PilzeEssen]
    #8470228 - 06/01/08 08:27 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

rumor


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notapillow said: "you are going about this endeavor all wrong. clear your mind of useless fear and concern. buy the ticket, take the ride, and all that.... "

ChrisWho said: "It's all about the journey, not the destination."

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Re: 20% price increase [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #8470229 - 06/01/08 08:28 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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zouden said:
life expectancy is up




why does everyone believe this to be good?




O stop being such a negative nancy :lol:


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notapillow said: "you are going about this endeavor all wrong. clear your mind of useless fear and concern. buy the ticket, take the ride, and all that.... "

ChrisWho said: "It's all about the journey, not the destination."

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Re: 20% price increase [Re: ManianFH]
    #8470230 - 06/01/08 08:28 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)


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Re: 20% price increase [Re: ManianFH]
    #8470233 - 06/01/08 08:30 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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mickdawg666 said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
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zouden said:
life expectancy is up




why does everyone believe this to be good?




O stop being such a negative nancy :lol:




I'm positive it's not good

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Re: 20% price increase [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #8470238 - 06/01/08 08:33 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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the only ones that profit are the manufacturers, their profits increase with these price hikes, and we're foolish enough to keep spending




It's not as if we can buy our food straight from the producers. It the retailers that should be trying to find a solution to this (it's not like food in general is an elastic product though, so the retailers have little incentive to do anything than adjust higher to keep a tidy profit margin. To be fair, supermarkets aren't getting rich, the only thing they're guilty of is being lazy).


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Re: 20% price increase [Re: Ferris]
    #8470253 - 06/01/08 08:41 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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It's not as if we can buy our food straight from the producers.





you can buy from the producers, many are forming co-ops to
ensure you get bread, meat, eggs and produce delivered in one
stop, you stop shopping the huge chain store that keep prices
artificially inflated, get better food that's not ripened
through the use of ethylene gas (it's actually fresh and ripe)
and you support the people that have been hurt the most by these
huge corporations by allowing them to get better prices for
their goods than they would by selling through the distribution
chain


http://www.localharvest.org/csa/

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To be fair, supermarkets aren't getting rich, the only thing they're guilty of is being lazy).




you think publix is struggling to build a new $13mil store every month?

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Re: 20% price increase [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #8470273 - 06/01/08 08:53 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

We have an excellent co-op in town and I shop there every time I don't mind going downtown to get food. I only buy fruits/vegetables/dairy/meat there though, and it's not always cheaper. Usually fresher though. Oh, and they have some good coffee and grains.

I live near an area that produces all this food, so I'm not sure if this option is open everywhere.

That link doesn't have our co-op, but it does show a couple that I wasn't aware of before. I'll have to see what they're all about. Too bad I just bought groceries this morning.

EDIT: nevermind, I can't afford 240 for a year half membership of 400 dollars for a full membership.

The other one was 14-18/week, which might work out of I hit em up in season or something.

I'll have to do the math to see if this would save me money or not. Maybe if if I went vegi again. It might work out if I shared membership with a few of my neighbors, I know they're big on produce.


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Re: 20% price increase [Re: Ferris]
    #8470302 - 06/01/08 09:04 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I live just down the road from a co-op, but everything is SO EXPENSIVE there! I simply cannot afford to buy my food there. Everything is all organic, hippie certified and what-not, but even for organic food it's pretty ridiculously priced.


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Re: 20% price increase [Re: circularvortex]
    #8470306 - 06/01/08 09:04 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Also, on the actual subject of the thread...

The Amero, anyone? It seems like our government is determined to drive our currency further and further down until a continent wide currency is our only option...


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Re: 20% price increase [Re: circularvortex]
    #8470311 - 06/01/08 09:08 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I'd be in favor of that. Then eventually we'll be using earthos and then solos. I can't wait for solos, that's an awesome name. Yellowbacks.


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Re: 20% price increase [Re: Ferris]
    #8470331 - 06/01/08 09:14 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Ferris said:
it's not always cheaper.

I live near an area that produces all this food, so I'm not sure if this option is open everywhere.




usually if you're buying from a retail outlet you're going to
spend more, most stores labeled as co-ops are privately owned or
owned by a small group, with CSA farms you're food isnt going
through additional hands, it's from the farmers truck straight
to your hands, you eliminate the additional markup of the ones
making additional profits for just supplying a roof, shelves and
coolers, you no longer pay that mans insurance, taxes, payroll
building lease and the other hidden costs

pricing can vary between $15/week to $55/week but that's taking
into account the amount of foods you're recieving, generally
they factor it in as a family for pricing, most have delivery
points and drive up to a couple hundred miles for delivery,

here's an example of one near me that has a delivery every day
most into atlants from west georgia

http://www.localharvest.org/csa/M8941

call around, see which can work with your schedule and what they
have to offer, there's usually some in everyones area, of course
if you have even a half acre of property, rented or otherwise I
advise growing your own and keeping your money

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Re: 20% price increase [Re: circularvortex]
    #8470358 - 06/01/08 09:21 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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I live just down the road from a co-op, but everything is SO EXPENSIVE there!





co-ops as you're seeing it is still a middle man, I'm not refering
to a grocery store, I'm talking about farm direct food, get to
know the people growing it, even get to visit where you're food is
grown to know these people are looking out for you

I'm referring to a farmers co-operative, not a group of investors
seeking to make more by hiking the cost of 'health food'

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Re: 20% price increase [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #8470362 - 06/01/08 09:22 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

The store if which I speak is non-profit and only those with the year-long membership can shop there. Of course someone manages it and gets paid something modest, but that's all good. Of course ya, you're paying for the location, but I guess that's just a matter of convenience, like if you're shopping there for all they're other unique products (like earth friendly household cleaners or whatever), most of which I don't bother with.

Those other places you're link showed me are the type you're talking about though, and one is in a location where I drop by once a week.

Oh, and btw to anyone else interested, don't forget that a lot of town's have a farmer's market, which is always excellent.


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Re: 20% price increase [Re: MOTH]
    #8470505 - 06/01/08 10:10 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

im going to the swap meet. where shit is still on the cheap


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