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Redneck Rant
    #8454472 - 05/28/08 09:07 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I am FUCKING tired of FUCKING rednecks!! I don't mind country folk, humble lifestyles are my thing. But these jerks who blame all of our country's problems on "niggers and beaners" while simultaneously planning to vote for McCain, are driving me insane. When I try to have a decent human conversation with a neighbor, I don't want to have to defend myself for liking brown people as much, if not MORE then whites.

I can cope with it, and somehow, I am almost always at least able to plant some "open mind" seeds in some of their closed minds. And I try not to judge people for their prejudices, but DAMMIT!!!

Sorry, I just HAD to yell at someone about it...


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Re: Redneck Rant [Re: TheHappieHippies]
    #8454483 - 05/28/08 09:11 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

where all do you live


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Re: Redneck Rant [Re: TheHappieHippies]
    #8454487 - 05/28/08 09:12 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Rednecks, much like niggers and beaners....and hippies for that matter are a product of there environment.

Decent human beings are the exception these days. If you dont like it...get the fuck out. At least thats my plan anyway.:shrug:


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Re: Redneck Rant [Re: TheHappieHippies]
    #8454490 - 05/28/08 09:13 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

i just saw 'SLC Punk' before

that was a disappointment :noway:

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Re: Redneck Rant [Re: blewmeanie]
    #8454496 - 05/28/08 09:16 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I live in Southeast Missouri.
Oh, and how I would love to get the fuck out...


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Re: Redneck Rant [Re: TheHappieHippies]
    #8454498 - 05/28/08 09:19 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Hmmm Missouri, you have my sympathy.


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Re: Redneck Rant [Re: blewmeanie]
    #8454509 - 05/28/08 09:23 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Southeast Missouri.




Not as bad as texas. The midwest has its perks. The rednecks aren't quite so bad there.

I used to live in a small town in central illinois and it was actually quite pleasant. Sure, there were racists, but they weren't exactly dressing up in sheets and burning folks.

I went to see barack obama speak here and the KKK showed up. Now THATS a redneck experience. If voting for Mccain and a little racism is the biggest problem you have then COUNT YOURSELF LUCKY. I live in the reddest of red states and sometimes I am positively TERRIFIED. Afraid for my life. Hippies, gay people, black people, etc. get strait up killed in small texas towns.


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Re: Redneck Rant [Re: TheHappieHippies]
    #8454524 - 05/28/08 09:26 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Hmm, that's now what the rednecks in Alaska are like at all.

Then again redneck probably isn't the best term for what we got, definitely a different breed than the Missouri rednecks for sure.

Up there they just want to ride their dirt bikes, snow mobiles, or quad's all day and stay out in the woods smoking weed/meth.


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Re: Redneck Rant [Re: kriminalelement]
    #8454525 - 05/28/08 09:26 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Why do you stay?


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Re: Redneck Rant [Re: kriminalelement]
    #8454538 - 05/28/08 09:29 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Hippies get killed?! Why would anyone waste time energy, and possible freedom on killing a peace loving pot smokin' hippie?

Oh yeah, KriminalElement, glad to see you're back girlie. Nice to know another girl who speaks her mind, even if it may differ from mine sometimes...


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Re: Redneck Rant [Re: kriminalelement]
    #8454544 - 05/28/08 09:30 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I heard Plano, Tx is a great place to raise a family.


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Re: Redneck Rant [Re: blewmeanie]
    #8454546 - 05/28/08 09:31 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Why do you stay?




Because being broke is a chronic symptom of being a hippie. :grin:


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Re: Redneck Rant [Re: TheHappieHippies]
    #8454663 - 05/28/08 10:02 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I see...sometimes though you just have to take a chance, and bounce. Money or not, its all about your mental health. I grew up mostly in Kentucky, and as soon as I turned 18 I got the fuck out! I moved to Florida without knowing anyone, and with only a few hundred dollars. It was the best decision Ive ever made.

No one should live somewhere they hate.


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Re: Redneck Rant [Re: TheHappieHippies]
    #8454668 - 05/28/08 10:03 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

try living in bumfuck, georgia. you wanna be hippy.


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Re: Redneck Rant [Re: TheHappieHippies]
    #8454674 - 05/28/08 10:04 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Contrary to general belief the south is still a dangerous place for outsiders. There are bars you can't go to if you look a certain way, because you WILL get a beating.

I grew up in plano and a punk/freak from richardson got his EYES gouged out by jocks. He's blind now.

My cousin was beat and left for dead by skinheads, and he DID almost die. His lungs were punctured by all his broken ribs and he had to drop out of the firefighters academy because he'll never regain full use of his right hand.

Gays get it the worst. Gay kids are killed in hate crimes at alarming rates in texas.


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Re: Redneck Rant [Re: blewmeanie]
    #8454675 - 05/28/08 10:04 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, I totally agree. Unfortunately, it isn't as easy when you have small children. You kinda have to know where your next meal is coming from ya know?


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Re: Redneck Rant [Re: kriminalelement]
    #8454681 - 05/28/08 10:05 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Contrary to general belief the south is still a dangerous place for outsiders. There are bars you can't go to if you look a certain way, because you WILL get a beating.

I grew up in plano and a punk/freak from richardson got his EYES gouged out by jocks. He's blind now.

My cousin was beat and left for dead by skinheads, and he DID almost die. His lungs were punctured by all his broken ribs and he had to drop out of the firefighters academy because he'll never regain full use of his right hand.

Gays get it the worst. Gay kids are killed in hate crimes at alarming rates in texas.


So many people would deny this.


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Re: Redneck Rant [Re: TheHappieHippies]
    #8454685 - 05/28/08 10:06 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Thats the thing about children though, you always know where your next meal is coming from....I think you know what I'm getting at here.:shiftyeyes:


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Re: Redneck Rant [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #8454686 - 05/28/08 10:06 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Of course they would, and that's why stories about kids getting lynched or dragged behind pickup trucks are almost never in the news.


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Re: Redneck Rant [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #8454693 - 05/28/08 10:09 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

The south still has a long way to go. I grew up in a rich part of georgia (east cobb outside of atlanta). Even there, ignorance is absolutely the rule rather than the exception. It's amazing how unbelievably acceptable it is to be publicly racist. It usually takes a tone of "Well, it's not my fault, I just can't fucking stand black people." Or "I don't hate them cause they're black, I hate them cause they act like monkeys." Makes me wanna puke.


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Re: Redneck Rant [Re: TheHappieHippies]
    #8454697 - 05/28/08 10:10 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Hippies get killed?! Why would anyone waste time energy, and possible freedom on killing a peace loving pot smokin' hippie?





Because it's easy?


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Re: Redneck Rant [Re: g00ru]
    #8454699 - 05/28/08 10:11 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

It's hilarious, i always tell outsiders that the south is like a fucked up time machine, and no one ever believes me. Fuck a bible belt. I cant believe that racism is the majority. But it's also the majority on this site which is even more surprising.


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Re: Redneck Rant [Re: Jadian]
    #8454700 - 05/28/08 10:11 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

:lol:


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Re: Redneck Rant [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #8454713 - 05/28/08 10:14 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I think you're mixing up being racist and just being an asshole. (As far as this site goes, can't speak for Texas)


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Re: Redneck Rant [Re: Jadian]
    #8454717 - 05/28/08 10:14 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

In the south it's pretty much synonymous.


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Re: Redneck Rant [Re: Jadian]
    #8454736 - 05/28/08 10:19 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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I think you're mixing up being racist and just being an asshole. (As far as this site goes, can't speak for Texas)


Well i notice people tend to use the otd to vent their racist views and claim that they are just having fun in the otd. Honestly how is acting like a racist fun? Or is it just easy? when in rome.


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Re: Redneck Rant [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #8454740 - 05/28/08 10:19 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Jack Albertson said:
Don't talk to me.




Try following your own instructions.


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Re: Redneck Rant [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #8454750 - 05/28/08 10:22 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Hate crimes happen in Miami as well, mostly it's gay people getting beaten somewhere around South Beach, no vocal racism though except different spanish speaking countries being racist against other spanish speaking countries ie. Cubans hate Mexicans, Puerto Ricans hate Cubans, etc.


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Re: Redneck Rant [Re: TheHappieHippies]
    #8454754 - 05/28/08 10:22 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

haha just like a chick to hold a grudge. you made a comment about me in the im new here thread. As if i were talking to you. Maybe if you would keep your opinions of me to yourself we wouldnt have conflict. SHUT YOUR FACE :smile: peace.


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Re: Redneck Rant [Re: Chemy]
    #8454763 - 05/28/08 10:23 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Hate crimes happen in Miami as well, mostly it's gay people getting beaten somewhere around South Beach, no vocal racism though except different spanish speaking countries being racist against other spanish speaking countries ie. Cubans hate Mexicans, Puerto Ricans hate Cubans, etc.


i wish i lived in a place where i or anyone else didnt get called a nigger on a daily basis. Living in negativity is terrible.


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Re: Redneck Rant [Re: Chemy]
    #8454784 - 05/28/08 10:26 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Hate crimes happen in Miami as well, mostly it's gay people getting beaten somewhere around South Beach, no vocal racism though except different spanish speaking countries being racist against other spanish speaking countries ie. Cubans hate Mexicans, Puerto Ricans hate Cubans, etc.



Yeah right, no racism in Miami. Try going to La Pequena Habana, and ordering a pizza in english.


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Re: Redneck Rant [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #8454814 - 05/28/08 10:31 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Quote:

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I think you're mixing up being racist and just being an asshole.  (As far as this site goes, can't speak for Texas)


Well i notice people tend to use the otd to vent their racist views and claim that they are just having fun in the otd. Honestly how is acting like a racist fun? Or is it just easy? when in rome.




Well I can't rightly say I know for sure about that because I don't really check the OTD.  I'm sure the racist shit goes right along side all the other stuff people know they can say whatever here and see no repercussions because they can't act that way in their real lives, who knows?  I'm not interested in bored people trying to fuck with other people, and at least when I get bored and want to fuck with somebody I'll do it nicely :tongue:


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Re: Redneck Rant [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #8454820 - 05/28/08 10:32 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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i wish i lived in a place where i or anyone else didnt get called a nigger on a daily basis. Living in negativity is terrible.



I can't say I've heard that word in Miami in the past 10 years, with the -a exception. I seriously hope you can alleviate yourself from that situation, ASAP.

I'm glad I was raised here and not somewhere that I would be taught morals based on ignorant hate of people you don't even fucking know.


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Re: Redneck Rant [Re: TheHappieHippies]
    #8454826 - 05/28/08 10:33 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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I am FUCKING tired of FUCKING rednecks!! I don't mind country folk, humble lifestyles are my thing. But these  jerks who blame all of our country's problems on "niggers and beaners" while simultaneously planning to vote for McCain, are driving me insane. When I try to have a decent human conversation with a neighbor, I don't want to have to defend myself for liking brown people as much, if not MORE then whites.

I can cope with it, and somehow, I am almost always at least able to plant some "open mind" seeds in some of their closed minds. And I try not to judge people for their prejudices, but DAMMIT!!!

Sorry, I just HAD to yell at someone about it...




I thought you were a redneck with a rant.

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Re: Redneck Rant [Re: Chemy]
    #8454834 - 05/28/08 10:34 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Quote:

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i wish i lived in a place where i or anyone else didnt get called a nigger on a daily basis. Living in negativity is terrible.



I can't say I've heard that word in Miami in the past 10 years, with the -a exception. I seriously hope you can alleviate yourself from that situation, ASAP.

I'm glad I was raised here and not somewhere that I would be taught morals based on ignorant hate of people you don't even fucking know.


thanx, ive been trying to escape this for some time. it's like a black hole. I dont know how i managed to be who i am growing up here. I should hate myself by the common logic.


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Re: Redneck Rant [Re: blewmeanie]
    #8454835 - 05/28/08 10:35 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Hate crimes happen in Miami as well, mostly it's gay people getting beaten somewhere around South Beach, no vocal racism though except different spanish speaking countries being racist against other spanish speaking countries ie. Cubans hate Mexicans, Puerto Ricans hate Cubans, etc.



Yeah right, no racism in Miami. Try going to La Pequena Habana, and ordering a pizza in english.



Who in the hell, what kind of idiot orders a pizza in little Havana??
I speak english all the time in Hialeah, if they can't understand I speak spanish, and what the hell does speaking a language have to do with racism???


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    #8454846 - 05/28/08 10:37 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Jack Albertson, I don't wanna fight with ya. Thank God for the ignore option. I did say something about you in a thread started by a new guy. You did your best to make him feel unwelcome here, much as you did me when I first came here. It's ridiculous trying to run people out of a forum that you obviously enjoy. Maybe you don't realize that there are real people sitting behind their computers talking to you, and that words matter, even online. That kind of ignorant insulting of complete strangers is exactly why so many people have no faith in humanity. It is the same hate without reason concept I am speaking of in this very thread.

So, go ahead and say something smart about how dumb I am and it being because I am a hippie or a woman, or whatever generalization you feel like picking on today, I am not gonna see it to be bothered anyhow.

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    #8454861 - 05/28/08 10:40 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Ooh snap.


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    #8454866 - 05/28/08 10:42 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

why cant you read? i hope you didnt ignore me before you read this. You should pay more attention to what people say and less attention to trying to be a hippy. You think that because you have hippy in your name that youre some how nicer than everyone or that you'll be accepted on this site? Grow up. Try thinking for yourself and not filling positions for various archetypes that fit psychedelics users. I was joking around with someone and you felt the need to get all butt hurt just like you did in the otd. Get over yourself, i have no beef with you other than the fact that you try too hard.


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The elusive hippie burn...ouch.


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    #8454877 - 05/28/08 10:45 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

i wish that were worthy of a burn. That was a confused attempt at writing someone off, a misunderstanding stemming from some kind of complex that makes someone feel like they need to be defensive toward people that clearly told them they didnt want to have anything to do with them.


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    #8454888 - 05/28/08 10:49 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Why is it whenever people get into spats on this site with a chick they have to attribute all the negative qualities they see in them with "being a woman?" WTF is up with that?

I don't mean to pick a fight, I'm just saying. Racism and sexism go hand in hand.


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    #8454899 - 05/28/08 10:51 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

i was joking about that. i could tell she was being a baby, so i wanted to mess with her. I reality i have more respect for women than i do men. But not outspoken ones that dont really have anything to say.


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    #8454922 - 05/28/08 10:57 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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i could tell she was being a baby, so i wanted to mess with her.




I appreciate that you're a respectful person, it's obvious from your opinions and thoughts.

But when you try to mess with someone by stereotyping their gender attributes in a negative way, you're also doing a headfuck on the other women in this site. Instead of attacking just one person, you're attacking the collective gender of the other women as well. Instead of just fucking with one person, you're fucking with a lot of people.

If a black person made a dumb comment on this site and I told them that it was just like a dumb nigger for them to say something like that, other black people would be equally offended, because I haven't just attacked the person, I've made a comment about the whole race.

I'm not offended by you, I just thought I'd take a moment to point out what's going on here in general and why I get so bothered by it (hence my previous hiatus).


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Re: Redneck Rant [Re: kriminalelement]
    #8454936 - 05/28/08 11:01 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Contrary to general belief the south is still a dangerous place for outsiders. There are bars you can't go to if you look a certain way, because you WILL get a beating.

I grew up in plano and a punk/freak from richardson got his EYES gouged out by jocks. He's blind now.

My cousin was beat and left for dead by skinheads, and he DID almost die. His lungs were punctured by all his broken ribs and he had to drop out of the firefighters academy because he'll never regain full use of his right hand.

Gays get it the worst. Gay kids are killed in hate crimes at alarming rates in texas.




this is just dribble... i lived in nacadoches texas for 3 years and never saw or heard anything like this. i came down there from minneapolis mn and i look different than most folks down there trust me. and yeah when somebody does get dragged behind a truck it does make the news. remember jasper? or does this sort of thing happen on a daily basis and the news just doesnt have time to cover it?

i actually met some of the nicest people in my life down there and went to many small towns for parties and cookouts and never feared for my live, ever.

im back in minneapolis now and we have our fair share of crime but that doesnt mean this isnt a great place to live.

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    #8454937 - 05/28/08 11:01 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

i understand, i wasnt thinking about showing my empathy for women to anyone. I dont care, people that know me irl or on here pretty much know who i am. In the future i'll be more aware that this isnt a total sausage fest. And why did your example have to be about black people. Im not black so that wouldnt offend me. Im glad youre back though. you were missed. by me. and no one else.


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    #8454942 - 05/28/08 11:03 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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i understand, i wasnt thinking about showing my empathy for women to anyone. I dont care, people that know me irl or on here pretty much know who i am. In the future i'll be more aware that this isnt a total sausage fest. And why  did your example have to be about black people. Im not black so that wouldnt offend me. Im glad youre back though. you were missed. by me. and no one else.




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Re: Redneck Rant [Re: blewmeanie]
    #8454945 - 05/28/08 11:04 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

haha i'll get banned for posting tits in the pube. wont i? if not im gung ho for titties.


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    #8454955 - 05/28/08 11:06 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

What? Banned for man boobs?


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    #8454960 - 05/28/08 11:07 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

i'd kill myself if i were that guy. why would you let yourself be photographed like that?


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    #8454977 - 05/28/08 11:11 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

It is pretty disturbing.


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    #8454984 - 05/28/08 11:13 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I like his bro beard.

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    #8455000 - 05/28/08 11:18 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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What? Banned for man boobs?





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    #8455014 - 05/28/08 11:21 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Hate crimes happen in Miami as well, mostly it's gay people getting beaten somewhere around South Beach, no vocal racism though except different spanish speaking countries being racist against other spanish speaking countries ie. Cubans hate Mexicans, Puerto Ricans hate Cubans, etc.



Yeah right, no racism in Miami. Try going to La Pequena Habana, and ordering a pizza in english.




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    #8455018 - 05/28/08 11:23 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

LOL! :p

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    #8455021 - 05/28/08 11:24 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Cuban pork taco's are pretty tasty.



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    #8455028 - 05/28/08 11:26 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Fuck.
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    #8455032 - 05/28/08 11:27 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Just spent a few days up in Ontario doing soem fishing.


Nowhere else have I ever been able to see a store owner who will walk back into the cooler and pull a beer out and continue getting hammered all day while running his store and shootin the shit outside with tourists about them how to go "nigger fishing" (beer can fishing) and the works.


Lol and man do they hate cigarettes up their. They make cigarettes out to be more evil then anything there is.


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Fuck.
Now I want some Mexican.



Forget that, its all about the fish taco. Its my favorite food ever....ah man Im stooping by publix and getting some fish on the way home.


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    #8455059 - 05/28/08 11:34 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I don't like seafood.
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    #8455070 - 05/28/08 11:37 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

cant go wrong there.


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    #8455107 - 05/28/08 11:49 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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i actually met some of the nicest people in my life down there and went to many small towns for parties and cookouts and never feared for my live, ever.




You're right, there are places in texas that are FUCKING AWESOME! Especially college towns like Nacadoches that KNOW HOW TO PARTY!

Unfortunately it's a big state full of a lot of horrible people and all areas are not so friendly and hospitable.

I would appreciate it if you would at least acknowledge that yes, my friends and my cousin have been horribly injured. I was there for the recovery and it SUCKED.

There was a small blurb in the news about the kid getting his eyes gouged out. It said it was about a girl but that's not even close to the truth.

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    #8455140 - 05/28/08 11:58 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Where I'm at in Northern Ohio is pretty racist too. Infact the least racist old guy I know constantly says things like "I don't have anything about black people, but.....", "I'm not racist, but these blacks and mexicans are....".

I don't think any gay guys are out of the closet here. All we have are dykes. Who are pretty cool, but it's obvious why they aren't discriminated (to their face at least). They are always biking, drinking, hunting, quadding etc.. so they fit right in.


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    #8455248 - 05/28/08 12:40 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I met this guy in Paducah, Kentucky, who actually believed that black people were a different species! I was dumbfounded. All I could say to him was "Wow. You're wrong."


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    #8455286 - 05/28/08 12:57 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

They arent?
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:rofl:
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    #8458470 - 05/29/08 02:58 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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The south still has a long way to go. I grew up in a rich part of georgia (east cobb outside of atlanta). Even there, ignorance is absolutely the rule rather than the exception. It's amazing how unbelievably acceptable it is to be publicly racist. It usually takes a tone of "Well, it's not my fault, I just can't fucking stand black people." Or "I don't hate them cause they're black, I hate them cause they act like monkeys." Makes me wanna puke.




Same way here man, I grew up in north west Gwinnett. Bunch of posh rich people who eat their organic food (and sushi, because it's trendy) and drive luxury cars to their tennis games. They're still incredibly racist. They really seem to hate Mexicans, which is ironic because the Mexicans built the house that they live in and cook the overpriced food that they eat in the latest new trendy restaurant.

I just don't get it. How can they live such a sophisticated life but be so ignorant?

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    #8479045 - 06/03/08 10:55 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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I am FUCKING tired of FUCKING rednecks!! I don't mind country folk, humble lifestyles are my thing. But these jerks who blame all of our country's problems on "niggers and beaners" while simultaneously planning to vote for McCain, are driving me insane. When I try to have a decent human conversation with a neighbor, I don't want to have to defend myself for liking brown people as much, if not MORE then whites.

I can cope with it, and somehow, I am almost always at least able to plant some "open mind" seeds in some of their closed minds. And I try not to judge people for their prejudices, but DAMMIT!!!

Sorry, I just HAD to yell at someone about it...




You sound just as closed minded and bigoted as the rednecks you speaking against.

If you said "racist rednecks" maybe I would interpret your statement differently.


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    #8479053 - 06/03/08 10:58 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Are you really dumb enough not to realize that I was talking about racist rednecks? I don't think so. I think you're a pretty smart guy. I think you just wanna argue...


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    #8479057 - 06/03/08 11:00 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Why are hippies always the intolerant ones? All my redneck friends seemed generally more intelligent then my friends from Santa Cruz or Berkley.

I guess it gets to the point on either side where people are just spewing rhetoric like so much vomit.


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    #8479816 - 06/03/08 02:56 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Why are hippies always the intolerant ones? All my redneck friends seemed generally more intelligent then my friends from Santa Cruz or Berkley.

I guess it gets to the point on either side where people are just spewing rhetoric like so much vomit.


like so much vomit nice. But it's true. That's why you dont generalize.


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Re: Redneck Rant [Re: TheHappieHippies]
    #8479878 - 06/03/08 03:11 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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I try not to judge people for their prejudices





Where did you get that silly idea?

Judging people for things they can't do anything about (race, gender, sexual orientation) is pointless, but its perfectly OK to judge people for being racist, sexist, homophobic assholes.

Its 2008, if you're racist/sexist/homophobic in this day and age you're a hateful piece of shit who really should know better and who should clean up his/her act.

No racist, sexist or homophobic hater stands a chance of becoming my friend nor are they welcome in my house.

Of course you can judge people for being a prejudiced hater. That is a choice they took in life and they're accountable for it.

I'm biased though, I'm a minority myself (gay) and have had to put up with a lot of shit because of it. It doesn't matter to me which group is targeted, witnessing racism or sexism RL gives me as much of a jolt of disgust as witnessing homophobia RL.
I don't like haters.


My advice to you is to try get the hell out of there. Being in a climate of hate, intolerance and fear takes years off your life and is no place for your kids to grow up in.




That said, can any of you enlighten us non-Americans on the definitions of a Redneck, a Hillbilly and a Cracker, their differences and similarities?


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Re: Redneck Rant [Re: Asante]
    #8479894 - 06/03/08 03:16 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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That said, can any of you enlighten us non-Americans on the definitions of a Redneck, a Hillbilly and a Cracker, their differences and similarities?



The definition of a redneck has changed because of a few redneck comedians that have popularized redneck and the "redneck lifestyle". That's one very good reason that rednecks shouldn't be generalized as being racist.

I know a friend of my family that is a "redneck" and he is a GC and donates anything extra from his company and donates his time to Habitat for Humanity and every person that has occupied one of the houses he's helped build has been black.


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Re: Redneck Rant [Re: Asante]
    #8479914 - 06/03/08 03:20 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

In my eyes a redneck has all the hillbilly characteristics, but in addition to that, they are also of the intolerant variety (other religions, races, sexual orientation, etc). Those haters you despise so much....When I think of hillbilly it really isn't derogatory in any way, those who are happy living a simple, outdated lifestyle, out in the woods or mountains or wherever they may be is great if it works for them.

I relate cracker to white as I relate nigger to black. (basically a stronger way to refer to someone of a respective race in comparison to words like asshole, jerk, piece of shit, etc).

That's how the words have been used around me and therefor how I use them, I am also interested to see what other people feel about it.


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Re: Redneck Rant [Re: sublime40oz]
    #8479931 - 06/03/08 03:26 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I thought Red-neck came from english troops deployed to Africa, and the subsequent sunburns they endured became their nickname.

Hill-billies are just awesome country folk who reject modern living, at least the ones I met in NC.

Crackers? I thought that was an attempt at a derogatory name to compensate for the "n word."


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Re: Redneck Rant [Re: Asante]
    #8479932 - 06/03/08 03:27 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I try not to judge because racism is taught, just as homophobia is. It is fed to people, at least the racist rednecks I happen to be talking about. They have been informed since birth of their superiority over other races. They have been misinformed, and perhaps had a few unfortunate events in their own lives. I have a hard time not judging because I was taught to always vote republican and pray to the Virgin Mary. So I know you can unlearn that kind of stupidity.


btw, I always wanted to ask someone who was gay if they thought homophobia was too nice of a word for the hateful people it represents? To me it seems like homophobia is too sympathetic. Compare it to the word misogyny, which gets across the point that the person is doing something wrong. Homophobia HA! They don't seem too scared while they are killing some guy for loving another human. I don't care if their hatred IS fear based, it is not fear that comes across.


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Re: Redneck Rant [Re: kriminalelement]
    #8479944 - 06/03/08 03:31 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Contrary to general belief the south is still a dangerous place for outsiders. There are bars you can't go to if you look a certain way, because you WILL get a beating.

This is the same everywhere. I have traveled quite a bit of the country and I have always managed to find places where I was welcome and places where I wasn't

I grew up in plano and a punk/freak from richardson got his EYES gouged out by jocks. He's blind now.

That happened almost ten years ago as I recall, and it was a bunch of idiot high school kids. This in no way represents the community

My cousin was beat and left for dead by skinheads, and he DID almost die. His lungs were punctured by all his broken ribs and he had to drop out of the firefighters academy because he'll never regain full use of his right hand.

sorry to hear about this

Gays get it the worst. Gay kids are killed in hate crimes at alarming rates in texas.

I know plenty of gays and only 1 out of 100 have been victims of hate crimes because they are gay. Dont confuse someone getting their ass beat for being a douche with a beating for being gay.
Same result different motive.






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Re: Redneck Rant [Re: TheHappieHippies]
    #8479965 - 06/03/08 03:37 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I never understood the term homophobic either, makes me want to punch anyone who says that to me straight in their ignorant mouth.


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    #8479974 - 06/03/08 03:39 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Getting the fear?


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    #8479987 - 06/03/08 03:43 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

isn't all this bashing on homophobes just your (collective) way of joining them.
You hate them because of their ignorance (being themselves).
They hate you because your (collective) gay (being yourselves).

Just makes me wanna :rofl:


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    #8479990 - 06/03/08 03:43 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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The National Covenant and The Solemn League and Covenant (a.k.a. Covenanters) signed documents stating that Scotland desired a Presbyterian Church government, and rejected the Church of England as their official church (no Anglican congregation was ever accepted as the official church in Scotland). What the Covenanters rejected was episcopacy — rule by bishops — the preferred form of church government in England. Many of the Covenanters signed these documents using their own blood, and many in the movement began wearing red pieces of cloth around their neck to signify their position to the public. They were referred to as rednecks.




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Re: Redneck Rant [Re: perosiste]
    #8480006 - 06/03/08 03:47 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I'm straight and can't stand them, I guess that makes me even worse huh, lol.


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Re: Redneck Rant [Re: TheHappieHippies]
    #8480080 - 06/03/08 04:08 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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I always wanted to ask someone who was gay





Well now's your chance, though ofcourse I can't speak for the whole minority, only for myself and likeminded.


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if they thought homophobia was too nice of a word for the hateful people it represents? To me it seems like homophobia is too sympathetic.




Homophobia does sound kind, almost apologetic. Though a large group of homophobics are really fearful, because they have taboo gay issues themselves, a lot of them simply are common garden variety haters who hate gays in the same way the average racists hates other races.

Am I bothered by that "homophobia" is such a mitigating word? Not really, people know what's being meant with it. What does bother me is that homophobia is often swept under the rug. It is really, really bad.

We're an uprooted minority. If you're black, at least you won't have to tell your parents and your friends :wink:

Gays often grow up "behind enemy lines" so to speak as most parents are straight, and straight culture is homophobic for a large part. That messes with your head.

An example of messed up minds and particularly of denial is this Christian band, with a singer who is "cured" from homosexuality and now triumphantly exclaims that God hates gay people:





To be honest it cracks me up, the joke is obviously on him and he doesn't see it. So you see him praying hard to fight the temptation to be gay :grin: while praying that the Lord will "fill him with His love". And all the while that he preaches their hate, his Christian brethren will hate him just as much as they do an un-"cured" gay.

But, while funny it also shows the severity of the problem and the complete headfuck the taboo on homosexuality can be.

As a human being and a homosexual I frown on his message of hate, but as an Internet person I can't help but appreciate it when people seize the opportunity the www offers to make complete jackasses of themselves.


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Re: Redneck Rant [Re: kriminalelement]
    #8480193 - 06/03/08 04:39 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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If a black person made a dumb comment on this site and I told them that it was just like a dumb nigger for them to say something like that, other black people would be equally offended, because I haven't just attacked the person, I've made a comment about the whole race.





Freudian slip?

So you are saying that the "whole race" is "dumb niggers"? That is an incredibly racist thing to say.

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    #8480284 - 06/03/08 05:02 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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So you are saying that the "whole race" is "dumb niggers"? That is an incredibly racist thing to say.




Actually he's not saying that.

The racist POV is that all black people are n*ggers. And its their (racists) word.

So if the word n*gger is used like that, anyone of the race is being insulted along with it.

In fact I'm white and racism like that offends me as well, in fact it offends me more than it does many black people. You don't have to belong to a group to be seriously offended when that group is targeted by intolerance.

I'm fed up with haters.


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Re: Redneck Rant [Re: Asante]
    #8480305 - 06/03/08 05:11 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I hear you. I was referring to the wording of the post, thats all. They said that if you call a black person a "dumb nigger" you are commenting on the "whole race" which implies that the "whole race" is "dumb niggers". I understand what they were trying to say, it was the way that they worded it that I was commenting on.

(I was just "busting balls" because of the strange choice of wording)


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