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Re: Emotional Addictions. [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
    #8456197 - 05/28/08 05:20 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Can I get an order of tough love with a warm glass of shut-the-fuck-up??

Sorry.  That was uncalled for...:lol::sad:


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Re: Emotional Addictions. [Re: Veritas]
    #8456332 - 05/28/08 05:43 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Veritas said:
While you are certainly entitled to your opinion, you have not provided any real support for your claims.  If you do not wish to discuss or debate, why bother to post in this forum?  :confused:




That is one question I'd be happy to answer if only to get it out of the way.  Someone asked for help, so I "helped" by offering my advice.

Useless wrangling about topics that seemingly have no answer or end is not something I especially like.  There are times, and they are rare, when a particular topic and its discussion interests and intrigues me.

This seemed to be more about someone asking for help than a discussion of the merits of individual therapy or the latest greatest self-help book.

So don't be confused or disheartened because I'm not drawn into a deep discussion that has no end.  That may come or it may not.

You're to be commended for the work you have done on yourself and, most of all, your willingness to do it.  Evidently, rageoholism, if that was what you had, was painful enough to make you want to extricate yourself from its grip. Sadly, not everyone wants to be extricated.

You're a good member and I look forward to discussing something in depth with you sometime.

Take care...


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Re: Emotional Addictions. [Re: backfromthedead]
    #8456337 - 05/28/08 05:44 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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backfromthedead said:
Can I get an order of tough love with a warm glass of shut-the-fuck-up??

Sorry.  That was uncalled for...:lol::sad:




:lol:


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Re: Emotional Addictions. [Re: geokills]
    #8457335 - 05/28/08 09:17 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Put plainly, I would like to know how I may gently encourage my partner to let go of a defensive and hostile disposition toward commentary that does not agree with her own views of the world about her. I am looking to breed tolerance and understanding. Is this too lofty a goal? Am I myself being intolerant for wanting to change her natural responses in this way?

Be a continuous example and say little or nothing. Otherwise your goals will most likely backfire.


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Re: Emotional Addictions. [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
    #8457350 - 05/28/08 09:21 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I have no need to defend my ideas here or elsewhere for that matter.

Then I suggest posting elsewhere. We like to debate our ideas here and I have no fear of it. What's your problem? And it's not about need it's about want. That's why we're here.:tongue:


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Re: Emotional Addictions. [Re: Icelander]
    #8457489 - 05/28/08 09:55 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

>>>>Put plainly, I would like to know how I may gently encourage my partner to let go of a defensive and hostile disposition toward commentary that does not agree with her own views of the world about her. I am looking to breed tolerance and understanding. Is this too lofty a goal? Am I myself being intolerant for wanting to change her natural responses in this way?

You can try gently bringing it up, but when you're talking about content, there's gonna be resistance. Better to create a space for the development of context.

If the problem is holding back the relationship, or is something you're unwilling to accept, I would insist she meditate on her heart on a regular basis, and stick with her on it. When a person begins to become open hearted, they begin to see their unfair views, even as they are experiencing them, and that would allow her to make the initiatives to change her behaviour.

If she doesn't want to meditate... kick her out.:shocked:


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Re: Emotional Addictions. [Re: geokills]
    #8458334 - 05/29/08 01:28 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

you have to lover her as she is
everything else is too much work


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Re: Emotional Addictions. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #8458810 - 05/29/08 07:48 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

<-----addicted to depression and anxiety. Oh and sex, but that isn't an emotion, though the addiction is a result of emotions associated with sex....


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Re: Emotional Addictions. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #8459119 - 05/29/08 10:13 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

If there's nothing wrong rationally or logically, one has to be content about the emotions, but an 'addiction' that's what we are talking about, is something 'unhealthy', so rationally explainable, falsifiable, debunk-able and condemnable.

If one loves another who is addicted to emotions, let's say which hurt somebody, I think it's better to help this person out.


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Re: Emotional Addictions. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #8461643 - 05/29/08 09:24 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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redgreenvines said:
you have to lover her as she is
everything else is too much work




You mean this kind of lovering?:doggystyle::lol:


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Re: Emotional Addictions. [Re: geokills]
    #8461843 - 05/29/08 10:08 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I am emotionally addicted to my computer/internet. Whenever my internet goes down or I have to reformat my harddrive, I get so fucking depressed feeling.

But I am ok with this emotional addiction because I like computers and the internets.


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Re: Emotional Addictions. [Re: Icelander]
    #8462158 - 05/29/08 11:35 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Icelander said:
Quote:

redgreenvines said:
you have to lover her as she is
everything else is too much work




You mean this kind of lovering?:doggystyle::lol:




Cock Therapy :naughty:


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Re: Emotional Addictions. [Re: Rahz]
    #8464258 - 05/30/08 04:05 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

:lol:


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Re: Emotional Addictions. [Re: Rahz]
    #8465221 - 05/30/08 08:03 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

No doubt, a li'l bone is a fantastic stress reliever. :yesnod:

Maybe that's my problem... :shocked:

Hrmm, time to trim those pubes and commence with some irresistibly sensuous and seductive sexual healing! :tongue2:


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Re: Emotional Addictions. [Re: geokills]
    #8465228 - 05/30/08 08:06 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

go Marvin


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Re: Emotional Addictions. [Re: Icelander]
    #8465627 - 05/30/08 09:40 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I don't believe in emotional addiction. Rather, I think people stick with emotions that benefit them the most. People that like to 'play the victim' are a prime example of people with a conscious choice of emotion.

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Re: Emotional Addictions. [Re: Boots]
    #8465886 - 05/30/08 10:57 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I think if you are hung up on another person's problems
it's time to find
another other person.


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Re: Emotional Addictions. [Re: Boots]
    #8466220 - 05/31/08 12:48 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I think it's often more a matter of habit and familiarity than addiction.

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Re: Emotional Addictions. [Re: NiamhNyx]
    #8467369 - 05/31/08 01:15 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

To me, habit is a form of addiction. Breaking a habit is like breaking an addiction in some ways.


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Re: Emotional Addictions. [Re: Boots]
    #8467373 - 05/31/08 01:18 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Boots said:
I don't believe in emotional addiction. Rather, I think people stick with emotions that benefit them the most. People that like to 'play the victim' are a prime example of people with a conscious choice of emotion.




I believe addiction is a conscious choice. An alcoholic can choose not to drink because his mother is coming over tonight and he wants to fake it. This is a choice. He can also make the choice to quit completely and some do.


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