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OfflineChemy
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Big Brother makes me feel safe from.......myself
    #8438680 - 05/23/08 11:15 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

NEW YORK - On a cloudless spring day, the NYPD helicopter soars over the city, its sights set on the Statue of Liberty.



A dramatic close-up of Lady Liberty's frozen gaze fills one of three flat-screen computer monitors mounted on a console. Hundreds of sightseers below are oblivious to the fact that a helicopter is peering down on them from a mile and a half away.

"They don't even know we're here," said crew chief John Diaz, speaking into a headset over the din of the aircraft's engine.

The helicopter's unmarked paint job belies what's inside: an arsenal of sophisticated surveillance and tracking equipment powerful enough to read license plates — or scan pedestrians' faces — from high above the nation's largest metropolis.

Police say the chopper's sweeps of landmarks and other potential targets are invaluable in helping guard against another terrorist attack, providing a see-but-avoid-being-seen advantage against bad guys.

"It looks like just another helicopter in the sky," said Assistant Police Chief Charles Kammerdener, who oversees the department's aviation unit.

Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly has said that no other U.S. law enforcement agency "has anything that comes close" to the surveillance chopper, which was designed by engineers at Bell Helicopter and computer technicians based on NYPD specifications.

The chopper is named simply "23" — for the number of police officers killed in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

The $10 million helicopter is just part of the department's efforts to adopt cutting-edge technology for its counterterrorism operations.

The NYPD also plans to spend tens of millions of dollars strengthening security in the lower Manhattan business district with a network of closed-circuit television cameras and license-plate readers posted at bridges, tunnels and other entry points.

Police have also deployed hundreds of radiation monitors — some worn on belts like pagers, others mounted on cars and in helicopters — to detect dirty bombs.

Kelly even envisions someday using futuristic "stationary airborne devices" similar to blimps to conduct reconnaissance and guard against chemical, biological and radiological threats.

Civil rights advocates are skeptical about the push for more surveillance, arguing it reflects the NYPD's evolution into ad hoc spy agency.

"From a privacy perspective, there's always a concern that 'New York's Finest' are spending millions of dollars to engage in peeping tom activities," said Donna Lieberman, executive director of the New York Civil Liberties Union.

Police insist that law-abiding New Yorkers have nothing to fear.

"Obviously, we're not looking into apartments," Diaz said during a recent flight. "We don't invade the privacy of individuals. We only want to observe anything that's going on in public."

The helicopter's powers of observation come from a high-powered robotic camera mounted on a turret projecting from its nose like a periscope. The camera has infrared night-vision capabilities and a satellite navigation system that allows police to automatically zoom in on a location by typing in the address on a computer keyboard.

The surveillance system can beam live footage to police command centers or even to wireless hand-held devices.

"The commander on the ground can see what we're seeing," Diaz said.

On this flight, the helicopter used the camera to look for signs of trouble at several key transportation sites: the decks of Staten Island ferry terminal, the stanchions of the Verrazzano-Narrows Bridge, the giant air vents feeding the Lincoln Tunnel. All of them passed inspection.

Without leaving Manhattan airspace, the chopper also was able to get a crystal-clear picture of jetliners waiting to take off from LaGuardia Airport and to survey Kennedy International Airport's jet fuel lines, which were targeted in a plot uncovered last year.

The chopper has helped track down fleeing suspects, including a recent case of a gunman who had shot his wife in Queens. As officers on the ground worried about how to approach the suspect's car, the camera in the sky hovered overhead, peeked inside the vehicle and found that he had already shot and killed himself.

During Pope Benedict XVI's recent visit, 23 patrolled the skies, at one point receiving a call from officers who had spotted a suspicious man with a camera on a rooftop near the pontiff's residence. Diaz radioed back that it was a false alarm.

"There was a modeling shoot going on," he said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080524/ap_on_re_us/stealth_helicopter


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Re: Big Brother makes me feel safe from.......myself [Re: Chemy]
    #8438700 - 05/23/08 11:22 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)







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Re: Big Brother makes me feel safe from.......myself [Re: Chemy]
    #8447664 - 05/26/08 05:11 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

good post missed that article
NYC is a joke, just riding the subway u have to stop and get your bag checked by the gestapo
land of the free, my ass


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Re: Big Brother makes me feel safe from.......myself [Re: 5150]
    #8447705 - 05/26/08 05:29 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

lol.

I appreciate the police guarding the subway in Chicago.

Why the fuck would you be against that?

Are you stupid?


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Re: Big Brother makes me feel safe from.......myself [Re: Chemy]
    #8447714 - 05/26/08 05:32 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

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Chemy said:
The chopper is named simply "23" — for the number of police officers killed in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

The $10 million helicopter is just part of the department's efforts to adopt cutting-edge technology for its counterterrorism operations.

The NYPD also plans to spend tens of millions of dollars strengthening security in the lower Manhattan business district with a network of closed-circuit television cameras and license-plate readers posted at bridges, tunnels and other entry points.

Police have also deployed hundreds of radiation monitors — some worn on belts like pagers, others mounted on cars and in helicopters — to detect dirty bombs.

Kelly even envisions someday using futuristic "stationary airborne devices" similar to blimps to conduct reconnaissance and guard against chemical, biological and radiological threats.

Civil rights advocates are skeptical about the push for more surveillance, arguing it reflects the NYPD's evolution into ad hoc spy agency.





Sounds straight out of 1984.

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Police insist that law-abiding New Yorkers have nothing to fear.





Oh, ok then. That makes me feel so much better. If the police say it then it must be true.


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"Obviously, we're not looking into apartments," Diaz said during a recent flight. "We don't invade the privacy of individuals.... (yet). We only want to observe anything that's going on in public."




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Re: Big Brother makes me feel safe from.......myself [Re: Shroomism]
    #8449129 - 05/26/08 11:43 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Anybody who cries big brother whenever they see a security camera obviously did not comprehend Nineteen Eighty-Four in the slightest.


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Dont get me wrong he is a funny guy, just not a great actor. Smoke some bud and watch the movie, weed helps me pick out shitty acting. [/quote]

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Re: Big Brother makes me feel safe from.......myself [Re: AScannerDarkly]
    #8449167 - 05/26/08 11:54 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

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AScannerDarkly said:
Anybody who cries big brother whenever they see a security camera obviously did not comprehend Nineteen Eighty-Four in the slightest.



Well, I've never read nineteen eighty-four, but in common usage "big brother" is equated to mean "Government surveillance", and that's what I meant.

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Posters of "Big Brother", the Party leader, with the caption BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU, dominate the city landscapes; two-way television (the telescreen) dominates the private and public spaces of the populace.




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Re: Big Brother makes me feel safe from.......myself [Re: Chemy]
    #8449228 - 05/27/08 12:16 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

That's the high cost of technological advancements for ya.

I'm glad I live in an area where I can travel dozens of square miles without being captured on a single security camera.

Just remember that it always sounds a lot worse on paper then it is. Just because there is a helicopter up there that can read license plates and facial features doesn't mean that the gestapo is tracking your every move.

They do have a legitimate use, no matter how misguided the war on terror is, they are a useful tool.


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Re: Big Brother makes me feel safe from.......myself [Re: WakeboardrB]
    #8449247 - 05/27/08 12:25 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

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WakeboardrB said:

They do have a legitimate use, no matter how misguided the war on terror is, they are a useful tool.



K-9's have a legitimate use, like tracking.

How many times are K-9's used for tracking purposes versus drug purposes or "thought crimes".

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The Thought Police use psychology and omnipresent surveillance to find and eliminate members of society who are capable of the mere thought of challenging ruling authority.






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Re: Big Brother makes me feel safe from.......myself [Re: Chemy]
    #8449274 - 05/27/08 12:34 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

if you want to do something about it... start learning intaglio/offset printing. Become really good artists. The future rebels will need you.

The Nazis funded their war and pretty much fucked the British pound. It is a valuable skill to have in warfare.



Edited by Liquidkick (05/27/08 12:46 AM)


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Re: Big Brother makes me feel safe from.......myself [Re: Liquidkick]
    #8449305 - 05/27/08 12:46 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

i think retina theft will be become popular


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Re: Big Brother makes me feel safe from.......myself [Re: Chemy]
    #8449390 - 05/27/08 01:24 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Chemy said:
Quote:

AScannerDarkly said:
Anybody who cries big brother whenever they see a security camera obviously did not comprehend Nineteen Eighty-Four in the slightest.



Well, I've never read nineteen eighty-four, but in common usage "big brother" is equated to mean "Government surveillance", and that's what I meant.

Quote:

Posters of "Big Brother", the Party leader, with the caption BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU, dominate the city landscapes; two-way television (the telescreen) dominates the private and public spaces of the populace.







First of all, Big Brother is more of a stalinist cult of personality rather than the technocratic surveilance system everyone makes it out to be, although it serves that purpose as well to an extent. And the government is post-revolutionary socialists that rewrite history to blame the capitalists of the past for modern economic problems, hardly the capitalist money-grubbing institution today that most people refer to as "big brother".


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[quote]drken said:
Dont get me wrong he is a funny guy, just not a great actor. Smoke some bud and watch the movie, weed helps me pick out shitty acting. [/quote]

no your just stoned. stop smoking pot [/quote]


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