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Re: Is it OK to eat rotten, maggot infested shrooms? [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
    #8452116 - 05/27/08 09:58 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

if its only a few maggots no worries alot of the shrooms i pick have a few in em like i said and nothing bad has happened too me. But if the shrooms are really rotten and really full of maggots no way.


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Re: Is it OK to eat rotten, maggot infested shrooms? [Re: weiliiiiiii]
    #8452169 - 05/27/08 10:05 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

This thread is great.


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Re: Is it OK to eat rotten, maggot infested shrooms? [Re: e32lover]
    #8452262 - 05/27/08 10:22 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

My first season picking I found a patch of around 300-400 Subs. At least half of these had started to rot, but being the idiot I was I thought they would still be good to cook off into a juice. We went back to a hotel room to sort through the good the bad and the ugly. I ate 7-8 large bulbus specemins which seemed to be quite healthy but had a strange texture to them (probably the maggot infested soft meaty flesh) and around 30 minutes later started what was a very unpleasantly strong and sickenening trip. Before I had completely digested the mushrooms I was violently sick, (I personally dont usually spew off fresh mushrooms, occasionally some unpleasant stomach feelings but not vomiting) I couldn't make it to the bathroom and was left trying to force down black gills in the sink in the main hotel room. My friends were bemused. There was a green tinge to everything I looked at and as it grew stronger all I could do was coil in a ball and complain. I felt terribly sick I wanted to go home, get me out of here.
When my friend finally convinced me to go outside I had to go down stairs to the car park to get my wallet. I made it down the stairs and as I was approaching my car my legs from the knees down started to feel like jelly. It was as if all my muscles had relaxed and weekened. I quickly russled for my wallet and returned up the stairs to tell my friends. When i was almost up the top of the stairs my legs gave way and I fell down 5 stairs. Luckily I was not seriously hurt and crawled back up the stairs out the door and began to crawl across the hotel foyer to where my friends were waiting outside.
My friend saw my dilemma and came and told the reception guy that I had a bit too much to drink and was epileptic so he didn't call anyone. He seemed to be just happy we were leaving and didnt fuss. When I made it out side still crawling I managed to stand up only by keeping my legs perfectly straight. repeated attempts at walking down the road ended in myself falling hard to the ground. It was kind of funny but extremely annoying because no matter how hard i tried with my mind my legs kept giving in. We were in fitzroy so I thought they would be used to such things but it didn't make me feel any better. The hard concrete was cold. We ended up going back inside the hotel I think i was carryed, and cooled off for a while, 2 hours later my friend felt good enough to drive home and off we went, my legs still shakey and strange.
I still went home and tryed a tartaric extraction method of the batch of semi rotten mushrooms stupidly thinking if i extract the psiloybin and throw away the rotten matterial it would be ok.
although the trip from the juice was only very mild, the same thing happened to my legs in a less intense way. It was very interesting, something I called weak stalk syndrome

Long story short, I no longer pick or consume mushrooms with sever damage as this experience was quite scary, there were times I was seriously worried for my health and I think I am lucky to have avoided hospital.


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Re: Is it OK to eat rotten, maggot infested shrooms? [Re: gdowg]
    #8454725 - 05/28/08 12:16 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

3-400 specimens. There is a likely chance someone picked the wrong thing & it got mixed up.


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Re: Is it OK to eat rotten, maggot infested shrooms? [Re: CureCat]
    #8455618 - 05/28/08 04:32 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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This thread is great.


yes...yes it is:thumbup:


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Re: Is it OK to eat rotten, maggot infested shrooms? [Re: weiliiiiiii]
    #8455734 - 05/28/08 05:11 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I just threw away a bunch of mushrooms because they were starting to rot. They could have been trimmed to remove the bad parts, but fuck that. I'm not eating them, and I'm not subjecting anyone else to that either.

don't do it. it's not worth it. there will always be more mushrooms, and if you just GOTTA get high, there are always alternatives to rotten mushrooms.


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Re: Is it OK to eat rotten, maggot infested shrooms? [Re: PinheadX]
    #8456037 - 05/28/08 06:51 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I wonder how many people would eat a handful of their own poop if it got them really fucked up.


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Re: Is it OK to eat rotten, maggot infested shrooms? [Re: AegentMonty]
    #8456101 - 05/28/08 07:02 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Jenkem?

Okay, that said. Please let's not even go there.... please.


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Re: Is it OK to eat rotten, maggot infested shrooms? [Re: CureCat]
    #8456113 - 05/28/08 07:04 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah I guess Ive played a big enough part in keeping this thread unrelated to mushroom hunting as is.


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Re: Is it OK to eat rotten, maggot infested shrooms? [Re: AegentMonty]
    #8456194 - 05/28/08 07:20 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

i think its related too hunting totally its very common if you pick wilds to find less than perfect specimens that have bugs in them. The first time i ate weilii they were totally rotten nasty lookin things so i ate like 15-18 caps somewhere in there and i tripped out hardest ive ever tripped on weilii. I thought cuz they were old they wouldnt work.:lol:


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Re: Is it OK to eat rotten, maggot infested shrooms? [Re: weiliiiiiii]
    #8456948 - 05/28/08 09:46 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Its very relevant to me as I was just sorting through some subs and usually I keep all the older, bit gross looking ones but this time I hesitated....

I always see lots of tiny little, almost microscopic jumping bugs on my subs (subaeruginosa). When I dry them on newspaper there is always about 1/4-1/2 a teaspoon of these dried little hopping things - it doesn't seem to matter how old the mushrooms are, but there is definitely a correlation between the number of bugs and how old the mushrooms are.

So anyway, some of the oldest specimens I pick often have the caps falling to pieces but the stems still intact. I think this is due to a number of reasons, both bug, age AND weather related. I still usually keep these ones, sometimes discarding the cap completely (usually if it falls off when I give it a shake) and keeping the stem, as sub stems are very woody and solid. These are dried and ground into the younger healthier looking specimens to achieve an even potency mix.

There is always a few tiny maggot like worms on my collection as well, again usually more on the older ones, so after reading this thread this morning I broke a fresh, older specimen in half and sure enough I saw two tine little worms inside the cap.

I personally think that unless you are already sick or you have a weak immune system there is no need to worry about this unless the mushrooms are obviously rotting. I think there is a big difference between aged and bug eaten caps and actual bacteria. I have in the past picked subs and the stem has squished in my fingers, and upon closer inspection the stem has some yellow or green slime on it - these are immediately discarded.

So bottom line for me is - in the quantities we are talking (its not like we are eating handfuls of bugs and/or bug shit- it's minuscule amounts) - a few insects on my older shrooms (most of which fall of upon drying) is fine, but obviously 'rotten' (as opposed to just aged and weathered) are not and should be thrown (or not collected in the first place).

I also think what one person would call rotten and bug infested another person would call aged with a few little insects. This would be hard to measure definitively.


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Re: Is it OK to eat rotten, maggot infested shrooms? [Re: _OttO_]
    #8461642 - 05/29/08 11:24 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

maggots tend to be the start of the rot, maggots wont eat on or near ecoli or saminalia,(sp?) for that matter most things containing maggots can be eaten, i have a friend who eats tons of rotten things, he claims that maggots are a good sign that its safe, he also goes by smell...
to hell with that i wouldn't eat or recommend eating maggot infested or rotten anything, i just wanted to share...


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Re: Is it OK to eat rotten, maggot infested shrooms? [Re: trigger]
    #8461671 - 05/29/08 11:30 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

cool dude. When i find subbs that have fruited right after the rain they always have maggots even when they just popped that morning.


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Re: Is it OK to eat rotten, maggot infested shrooms? [Re: weiliiiiiii]
    #8462151 - 05/30/08 01:33 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Is it OK to eat rotten, maggot infested shrooms? [Re: CureCat]
    #8462236 - 05/30/08 02:01 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

smart, very smart,

quality posts. nothen but love.


Edited by CureCat (05/30/08 06:35 AM)


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Re: Is it OK to eat rotten, maggot infested shrooms? [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
    #16334690 - 06/05/12 07:07 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

how about lets say, just  a few maggots from a newly picked muhsrooms?
are they still ok to eat?


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Re: Is it OK to eat rotten, maggot infested shrooms? [Re: ToxicMan]
    #16334694 - 06/05/12 07:13 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

I am really not sure why you just bumped this.  :confused:


Seeing as you have though:

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You wouldn't eat an apple that was like that, would you?

Eating rotting mushrooms is risking food poisoning. The same bacteria that are rotting the mushrooms can poison you, and the poisoning can be very serious, even fatal.

The maggots are leaving their feces behind in the tunnels they make as they eat their way through the mushrooms. The maggot feces have many of the same dangerous bacteria as your own feces do.

I've heard people make the comment that the rest of the mushroom is fine, there's just a little bit of maggot feces in it. But a shit sandwich with just a little shit is still a shit sandwich.

Happy mushrooming!





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Re: Is it OK to eat rotten, maggot infested shrooms? [Re: Stopwhispering]
    #16344560 - 06/07/12 04:41 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

sorry chief. just desperate. but i got it. thanks!


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Re: Is it OK to eat rotten, maggot infested shrooms? [Re: bakedmak]
    #16344574 - 06/07/12 04:54 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

In Mexico, the locals said to leave out the shrooms and the ants would come and clean up the maggots. It's a little strange, but they arent so bad. IMO?


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Re: Is it OK to eat rotten, maggot infested shrooms? [Re: Couperj]
    #16344599 - 06/07/12 05:14 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

well, thats a good strange info.. \m/


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