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ryon40
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#8420482 - 05/19/08 03:28 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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I have been curious about this stuff for awhile now and have done research and from what I understand you can "extract" it from mimosa hostilis root bark, that or ayahuasca. I was wondering if anyone had any information on this or how to obtain it?
Thanks!
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Re: DMT [Re: ryon40]
#8420501 - 05/19/08 03:33 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yes, you can preform an extraction from MH root bark which is legal to obtain. From what I hear it is fairly easy (I have not done it). I think there are a few extraction methods on here, or you can stop by the DMT Nexus or just Google it.
Ayahuasca is a drink that contains both a DMT containing plant and a MAOI containing plant to allow for oral absorption.
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ryon40
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I too have heard its fairly easy I was just wondering on procedures, I cant seem to come across any I have searched through this site and no threads I have come across contain any info unless Im ignorant and just didnt see them. I also searched through google to see if there were any sites containing anything and no luck yet I guess I havent done enough research yet.
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Re: DMT [Re: ryon40]
#8420599 - 05/19/08 03:53 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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ryon40 said: I have been curious about this stuff for awhile now and have done research and from what I understand you can "extract" it from mimosa hostilis root bark, that or ayahuasca. I was wondering if anyone had any information on this or how to obtain it?
Thanks!
come on dude theres got be at least a thousand threads on this, utfse.
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Use search function, search for "marsfold" or "lazy man's dmt extraction." It will turn up.
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ryon40
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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6931010#6931010
Just came across it, if anyone has been lookin for it theres the link!
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Re: DMT [Re: ryon40]
#8420686 - 05/19/08 04:14 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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If you go through with this, you are in for one hell of a wild ride.
DMT is a whole new animal.
There is no way really to be prepared for it, although that does not mean you can't handle it. Go into it expecting what you may, you will come out and say wow.
My take on it anyway, there is a trip report in the sig I think.
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SWIM tried to make a better explained STB tek, with pics, and also adding easy steps to make end result cleaner.. I may be biased to say this, but I really think this is better explained, easy and cleaner end-result than the one you posted
Easy DMT Extraction tek
check it out
Edited by Endlessness (05/19/08 04:27 PM)
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ryon40
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Thanks guys another question regarding this, how long does this trip last Ive heard that its only about 30 minutes.
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Re: DMT [Re: ryon40]
#8420840 - 05/19/08 04:54 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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even less..
the peak or main trip lasts until maybe minute 10 or something.. at 20 you´re mostly back already...
one can take extracted crystals orally with some MAOI too.. then it should last a couple of hours.. I wonder if its as deep as ayahuasca .. I´ll probably be trying this way soon
Edited by Endlessness (05/19/08 04:57 PM)
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ryon40
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Thats not that long Im kind of bummed about that just because that root bark is decently expensive. What is this MAOI you speak of?
Edited by ryon40 (05/19/08 05:01 PM)
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Re: DMT [Re: ryon40]
#8420936 - 05/19/08 05:23 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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Dude, I don't mean to be rude, but it is time to use the search function. All of the info you seek (and more) is a simple search away - along with the full, easy instructions on how to extract product etc.
Just remember: 15ml water : 1 gram rootbark : 1 gram lye
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Endlessness
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Re: DMT [Re: ryon40]
#8421008 - 05/19/08 05:42 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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yep its quite short.. but the experience is very powerful, its possible that time loses it´s meaning, it may seem like infinity.. or in the very least it will be impressive, billions of things happening in each second of the trip
It is a worthwhile experience IMO.. But dont expect closure or understanding of what happens.. Chances are, when trip ends, you will be astonished, impressed, out of words, question mark hovering in your head, wondering what the fuck just happened. You probably wont have a personal trip, with teachings and learning.. It´s more ´out there´ kind of trip.
Ayahuasca, on the other hand, is the orally active intake of dmt (though I suppose you already know all of this)... The experiences are much more personal, transformative.. It´s more of a process, a deep teaching, and not so much a ´psychedelic cannon´ as the smoked version
As for orally taking the crystals, the MAOI I will use is syrian rue seeds (3 grams, acidifying water with lemon, putting the rue, shaking it a bit, boiling it shortly, separating the water from the solid and saving the water somewhere, add more acidified water and repeat process again twice, then discard solid part, and drink the water).. Taking it 40 minutes before taking the crystals. The problem with this option if getting crystals is expensive for you, is that one needs a big amount of crystals when taking it orally (reports talk about 100 to 200mg of crystals necessary for nice strong trip, while when smoking 50mg is enough for a very strong trip). This presents a question on its own, why is it that one needs less total amount of dmt when taking ayahuasca (according to chemical analysis of dmt content in different ayahuascas) than when taking the pure crystals by themselves...
another possibility I might try, out of curiosity if all that matters is MAO inhibition or if the plant´s ´spirit´ plays a part on the trip, I will try some other time using a pharmaceutical substance called Moclobemide (aurorix) as the MAOI.. Taking a 150mg dose 30 or 40 mins before the dmt
One could also do this with B. Caapi, the most common real ayahuasca ingredient. around 50 grams is necessary
You can also take mimosa itself orally without needing to extract it to crystals.. One can take a MAOI, and 40 mins later take 9 grams of mimosa hostilis rootbark (doing same as with syrian rue, acid water infusion).. Many people mention that ingesting mimosa can be very harsh on the stomach. Other people say its no problem. There have been suggestions that using egg white or gelatine to ´suck´ the tannins from it will decrease stomach problems
Mimosa hostilis also has the amazing property of being active by itself, most people report the need to take 25 grams. The big difference in preparation is that it HAS to be cold water infusion, you cant boil it or else its not active by itself
I have not tried taking mimosa in either way, neither ingesting the crystals with maoi.. Only smoking the crystals and taking the real ayahuasca.. I do plan to try soon though and if I do, I´ll post back the results
Edited by Endlessness (05/19/08 05:49 PM)
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Smoking is cool but I like the longer experience of ingested DMT via the following crude but effective "extraction":
I like to boil crushed/powdered MHRB 3 times with some spring or distilled water and acid (lemon juice or vinegar but not too much!), filter and combine the filtered results in a large pitcher. Then let sit in the fridge overnight, and decant to another container leaving behind the sludge that sinks to the bottom. Decant another time or even two overnight each time, and you can get a very pure liquid extract without much solid matter. I usually like to use a large amount of liquid for each decanting, and then boil the final product down a bit to reduce the volume. (Leftovers I just evap slowly to crystal for long term storage.)
I then use about 3 grams of crushed syrian rue in capsules, wait 30 minutes, and then either start drinking my liquid or taking caps of the evapped MHRB crystals. I don't puke using this method, though a post event blow-out is the norm (colon cleansing FTW!)
Just keep track of your ratios! You don't want to accidentally ingest like 15 grams equivalent before it hits you, at least until you know what to expect and how strong the batch is. 5 grams MHRB should be a decent start and by 10 you'll be saying "holy shit!" if it is good bark and you extract carefully.
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