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Re: ARMY?? [Re: jewunit]
#8406383 - 05/15/08 06:35 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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jewunit said: For one signing up for the military does not equate to killing people. I'm not saying it isn't a possibility, but it's not the only option.
Two, the war is going to exist either way. If you're not doing anything to try and stop it (which pretty much goes for everyone), then what does it really matter if you sign up? If anything that's better. Less people that join the reserves need to go.
It's a well paid job, and if you are willing to do it, then by all means go for it.
true but working in an organization of which one of the primary functions is to kill people is just as bad. even if you dont do the actual killing.
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I've been in for five years now, and its sad to see such distorted, uninformed opinions of military service coming from a community I've long thought to be filled with 'open-mindedness.'
to paraphrase Orwell- "people sleep peaceably in their beds because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
But, I guess I'm just one of those patriotic idiots who believed in my regiments motto- de oppresso liber.
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Re: ARMY?? [Re: Stizzle]
#8406388 - 05/15/08 06:36 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Stizzle said: The other branches don't seem to respect the army
Dont mistake camaraderie for a lack of respect, it's just like when your friends are calling you an asshole or a fag, they know you arent it's just a bit of ribbing for reaction, it's the dumb ones that fight based one being called a squid or a jarhead
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Re: ARMY?? [Re: Crasher]
#8406389 - 05/15/08 06:36 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm gonna drop this argument, I didn't even want to get involved.
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Re: ARMY?? [Re: Crasher]
#8406409 - 05/15/08 06:40 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Crasher said: de oppresso liber.
I knew there was a reason I liked you
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Sure it's not the avatar?
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Re: ARMY?? [Re: Crasher]
#8406434 - 05/15/08 06:45 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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positive, the avatar just has me wanting to hump your leg
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Re: ARMY?? [Re: Crasher]
#8406435 - 05/15/08 06:45 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Pris doesn't like boobies.
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Re: ARMY?? [Re: jewunit]
#8406440 - 05/15/08 06:46 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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jewunit said: Pris doesn't like boobies.
I like yours, stickman
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xshadowmage666x said: So im in a dilemma. I am thinking about filling out the paperwork and taking the necc steps to join the army. Any pros cons you guys could share with me?
dude don't join the army its a waste of time, we shouldn't even be there in the first place. I know they try to make it sound glamorous in the commercials about serving your country, but the truth is if you join the army your country doesn't give a shit about your life and whether or not you lose it, and you're basically a hired killer.
When I was Medevac'ed from overseas, I was overwhelmed by the sheer number of non-profit organizations willing to help my family and I recover. People care, you're just blatantly wrong about life in the military in general.
There were several days over there where almost every unit in our area came together to look for a single missing soldier. A collaborative effort like that clearly demonstrates how much we believe a troop's life is worth.
even if all you see are reports of flaming HMMWV's and a nation's inability to rise above self-inflicted theocracy, the score is known to those of us actually serving.
To the OP, people may claim any idiot can/should join, but you'd be suprised. If you, as a 22 year old, need advice from the shroomery about your future, you'll fail miserably.
Insurgency/counter-insurgency is graduate level warfare. we're far from fighting in foxholes, so instead of mindless drones on line with weapons drawn, we need people who are capable of understanding the religious, economic, cultural, and political factors of the war we're fighting.
No, that isn't just reserved for officers.
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Re: ARMY?? [Re: roby000]
#8406502 - 05/15/08 07:02 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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so for those of you calling me not open minded,
what do you think of when your standing in iraq and someone fires a gun at you?
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Re: ARMY?? [Re: roby000]
#8406503 - 05/15/08 07:03 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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roby000 said: when was the last time a tank driver was hired in the outside world.
heavy equipment operator, his military career assisted in landing the job, he earns $28/hr, he'll make $50+ when he buys his own
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makaveli8x8 said: what do you think of when your standing in iraq and someone fires a gun at you?
I think of ass
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Re: ARMY?? [Re: Crasher]
#8406513 - 05/15/08 07:07 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Crasher said: I was overwhelmed by the sheer number of non-profit organizations willing to help my family and I recover. People care, you're just blatantly wrong about life in the military in general.
Great to hear, I make regular donations to the Wounded Warrior Project and will continue to do so.
http://woundedwarriorproject.kintera.org/Welcome
Can you recommend any other organizations that helped you and your family so I can donate to them also?
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Prisoner#1 said: I think of ass
umm, yah that would make some good motivation i soppose
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Prisoner#1 said: I think of ass
umm, yah that would make some good motivation i soppose
I think
who's ass is shooting at me? will they ass shoot my ass? I think I needs to kill they ass! boy I could really go for an ass sammich right now damn that ass of a lt is gonna get my ass kilt!
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makaveli8x8 said: so for those of you calling me not open minded,
what do you think of when your standing in iraq and someone fires a gun at you?
I'm not thinking, I'm shooting back.
then i'm thinking- is he sunni or shia, is he from iran, what militia is he from, where is the rest of his cell, is he simply instigating an isolated firefight or is he attempted to draw us into an ambush.
If you're asking us to reflect on how we got to this point-
I'm thinking that the nation overwhelmingly supported the invasion in 2003.
I'm thinking that Iranian support makes Iraq extremely difficult to stabilize.
I'm thinking that no one should have to live in a suppressive regime (including ourselves, but that' another topic)
I'm thinking our country has no patience at all, and that will be our downfall in any military engagement.
meh.
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