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Straight coffee substrate (Inspired by WarriorSoul)
    #8247104 - 04/06/08 03:37 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I was reading a thread posted by WarriorSoul here.
It seems like WS is going to be experimenting with some blended substrates and coffee, but I'd like to follow the original thread of using only coffee grounds as a substrate.
I'm currently PCing a wide mouth pint jar filled per PF tek but substituting coffee grounds for BRF. The grounds are actually very fine b/c they were used to make espresso at *$.
My only concern is the high acidity level, but if I don't have success with this one, I'll mix in some lime next time to see if it has any effect.
Thanks to WarriorSoul for inspiring this experiment!


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Re: Straight coffee substrate (Inspired by WarriorSoul) [Re: 81Renaissance]
    #8247138 - 04/06/08 03:50 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

This will be interesting to follow.
Good luck and keep us informed .
Peace.

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Re: Straight coffee substrate (Inspired by WarriorSoul) [Re: creekfreek]
    #8247179 - 04/06/08 04:01 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I have 12 pint jars of WBS and coffee grounds.
The soak was with straight coffee.
I have no idea if coffee only will work out but the grounds in all my jars colonized first and fast.
The jars are all 100% now so it does work.

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Re: Straight coffee substrate (Inspired by WarriorSoul) [Re: bigred]
    #8247193 - 04/06/08 04:04 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Cool, if this works, we'll have to do some posts regarding potency (i'm gonna try to fruit from coffee cakes).


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Re: Straight coffee substrate (Inspired by WarriorSoul) [Re: 81Renaissance]
    #8247247 - 04/06/08 04:29 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

100% coffee grounds is not a good idea for bulk, the P.H of the grounds are high not quite sure where they lay exactly but high enough to produce unfavorable conditions for mycelium.

I have grown Texas cubies off pure coffee grounds it does work but the grounds do not retain very much moisture at all, you'll be lucky to get a 2nd flush out of them.

Coir/coffee grounds is where its at guys, straight coffee grounds as a bulk is just wasting your time. You've been warned but hey, I'd like to see some pic's too, myco porn is always good :smile:

Have fun.


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Re: Straight coffee substrate (Inspired by WarriorSoul) [Re: HybridprX]
    #8247253 - 04/06/08 04:32 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks for the input hybrid...I hadn't thought about moisture issues, I hydrated just to field capacity, so I might have some issues if what you're saying is correct, but either way I appreciate the feedback


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Re: Straight coffee substrate (Inspired by WarriorSoul) [Re: 81Renaissance]
    #8247468 - 04/06/08 05:28 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I had a conversation with RR not too long ago and he said to NEVER use full strength coffee for a soak, to only use 1/2 strength........thought this might help


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Re: Straight coffee substrate (Inspired by WarriorSoul) [Re: Shroomie McGee]
    #8247655 - 04/06/08 06:19 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

You may be right about the soak I don't know, but I do know all of my wbs jars soaked in straight coffee are doing very well.
But I have to do things the hard way!!!

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Re: Straight coffee substrate (Inspired by WarriorSoul) [Re: bigred]
    #8250122 - 04/07/08 10:41 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

:thumbup::mushroom2:

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Re: Straight coffee substrate (Inspired by WarriorSoul) [Re: HerbBaker]
    #8274620 - 04/12/08 04:45 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Update:
Its been several days, and I have no growth whatsoever...I really expected some trace of mycelium but...nothing.
Theory:
Well my main hypothesis is that ESPRESSO grounds shouldn't be used for a sub! The espresso roast we use is VERY dark roasted (lots of heat, for a long time) so I think that any nutrient value was lost in the roast process. I'm going to get some grounds from a much lighter roasted coffee and see how that goes, but I'll continue to update in this thread.


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Re: Straight coffee substrate (Inspired by WarriorSoul) [Re: 81Renaissance]
    #8393993 - 05/12/08 07:23 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks for the update.
My java jars are fully colonized, i got to decide what to do with them.. cakes or spawn?

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Re: Straight coffee substrate (Inspired by WarriorSoul) [Re: HerbBaker]
    #8394058 - 05/12/08 07:41 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

spawn spawn spawn


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Re: Straight coffee substrate (Inspired by WarriorSoul) [Re: legallyhomeless]
    #8394178 - 05/12/08 08:04 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

not to beat a dead horse, but yes... spawn that shit!

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Re: Straight coffee substrate (Inspired by WarriorSoul) [Re: shroober]
    #8396579 - 05/13/08 12:42 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Interesting update:
I didn't dump out the jar of grounds, I just left it in my room, and I went back to it a couple days ago and it is showing VERY rhizomorphic growth.
It's only about 3/4 colonized (and its been over a month since inoculation) so I certainly don't recommend coffee as a sub, but I'm going to complete the grow when it reaches 100% to analyze pinset, fruit size, and potency.


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