Home | Community | Message Board
You are not signed in.
Sign In New Account
Forum Index Search Posts Trusted Vendors Highlights Galleries FAQ User List Chat Store Random Growery

Sporeworks
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.

Mushrooms, Mycology and Psychedelics > The Ethnobotanical Garden
Threaded Mode Threaded  Previous topic Previous  View all topics Index  Next topic Next 

Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: North Spore North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   Original Sensible Seeds Autoflowering Cannabis Seeds   MagicBag.co All-In-One Bags That Don't Suck   Sporeworks.EU Spores for European Microscopy

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1 | 2  [ show all ]
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
why is homegrown always better? (weed)
    #839441 -

perhaps i should be posting it on drugs forum... anyways...
why do we get a better quality weed (a cleaner and funnier high, less lethargic) than the weed we buy if using the seeds that come with it? even without taking much care growing it? does the best alkaloids degenerate somehow while the pressed weed is being transported or something?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: why is homegrown always better? (weed) [Re: felixhigh]
    #839710 -

Handling, pressing and transportation..yes!

peace...

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: why is homegrown always better? (weed) [Re: felixhigh]
    #839976 -

Yea mostly what dude stated above......but also some genetics are involved also..... a great book on the subject is Cannabis Alchemy by D. Gold.... the book explains all the different types of high you get and their corresponding chemicals....very interesting stuff indeed


--------------------
Peace,
Adam

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: why is homegrown always better? (weed) [Re: DazedSol]
    #840061 -

Well, genetics isn?t tha biggest concern if it?s seed?s from the same weed.[sure somewhat..but defenatley not that is the whole difference.some pollination from diffrent strains is possible..but..]
Mostly handeling, curing and transportation is the BIG reason..

peace...

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: why is homegrown always better? (weed) [Re: stonErollEr1]
    #840235 -

and I have three plants that are from bagseeds
Can the quality of the weed Ill have be better than the one I smoked ?
Thank you


--------------------
Cuba Libre

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: why is homegrown always better? (weed) [Re: T0aD]
    #840501 -

toad: the weed you're growing wil surel be way better than the weed your seeds came in... my post asks the why of it.
dazed: genetics shouldn't be a concern - i doubt there was other strains growing together so breeding isn't likely to have happened...stoneroller: that's what i was thinking... then it seems that the best chemicals in it are pretty unstable aren't them? thinking better it sounds fair to have some alkaloid degenration while the shit is among wood logs under a 100 degrees heat tightly packed in a truck crossing the border... it makes me think of the whole lot of land needed to grow all the weed smoked everyday!!!

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: why is homegrown always better? (weed) [Re: felixhigh]
    #840579 -

Well I think Im knowledgeable in this area so I'll give it a shot.

Most of the weed people buy is from mass produced fields, either over seas, or in a farm, or whatever. There you have female and male plants intermingled right next to each other, and then theres the fact that you can't possibly take care of every single one. The fact that homegrown weed is not grown in mass quantities, be it inside or outside, the grower can put all his attention to less plants, making them healthier.

The major reason homegrown is better is that you tell whether or not the plant is male or female, and throw out the males. For the reason that when polen comes in contact with the female plant, the energy otherwise used to make the thc (thc is used to protect the seeds and plant from dehydration) is used to make seeds instead. This is why when you buy a bag with little to no seeds it is ALWAYS better potency wise than a bag with lots of seeds.

And yet another factor is the light used to grow it under. A 400 watt metal halide bulb used for vegitatative state, left on 24/7 lets it grow many times faster and healthier than leaving it outside, not only does it provide more light in time, the wavelength of a metal halide bulb is targeted specifically for vegitative states of plants. Then when you want to flower it, you switch to a 12/12 regimen with a high pressure sodium bulb. This practice just plain gives the plant more of the right kind of light.

As for the difference in the high, it can depend on all sorts of other factors, potency, strain, amount consumed (potency and amount fall almost hand in hand), and method of ingestion.

When being pressed the weed is just that, compressed, it won't have much effect on the potency, except for the surface that contacts the pressing board, the trichomes (thc crystals) rubs off onto the board, and if its a pourous material, it stays there, if it isn't some rubs off onto the next batch.

Thc is also heat sensitive, when subjected to heat it is destoyed, so those idiots who toss weed in the dryer in a lingerie bag to dry it, just knock off the trichomes as well as kill the thc. Thc doesn't just immediately die on contact with heat, if it did, then you wouldnt get high when you lit it up, unless you ate it.

Transportation also knocks trichomes off, when you handle kind bud, you can look at your fingers and see them shimmer under light, thats the trichomes on your finger, no longer on the weed. Needless to say, when you transport it, handle it, and put it in bags it knocks off trichomes. Thats why you should only handle buds by the stems.

Any other questions you might have you could pm me. Im not a genious on the subject but I spent a few years on the subject first hand.

I hope that helps.


--------------------
Everything posted above was out of fun, none should be taken serious. I am currently under the influence so take that into consideration.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: why is homegrown always better? (weed) [Re: TripsAreForKids]
    #841427 -

Trips: That is so true...[how could i miss that!!well well..]
Sinsemilla is offcourse the main reason, if its ordernary shwag seeds we are talking about.

peace...

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: why is homegrown always better? (weed) [Re: felixhigh]
    #845490 -

one word: psychosomatic


--------------------
Don't squeeze the pancake batter

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: why is homegrown always better? (weed) [Re: stonErollEr1]
    #846169 -

Either way, whether you grow that lone seed in the quarter pound of kind you got, or one of the 20 in the twin you got ripped off on. If you grow it right, and don't let pollen get to it, it will be sooooooo much better than the original bag you got it from.


--------------------
Everything posted above was out of fun, none should be taken serious. I am currently under the influence so take that into consideration.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: why is homegrown always better? (weed) [Re: TripsAreForKids]
    #8177283 -

i'm only posting so late because there is a specific reason that hasn't been mentioned for the qualitative difference in the high that you refer to. While the factors people mention do have an impact on weed quality in general, bought weed usually has a more lethargic and goofy high for a very simple reason that hasn't been mentioned. Sellers obviously want to maximise the amount of WEIGHT that they get out of each plant, and for this reason they sell when the plant has reached the very end of its flowering cycle and has the heaviest buds. However by this stage although the buds are increasing in bulk the THC content is actually beginning to decrease: being converted to other cannabinoids, which produce the lethargic sensations. Nearly all weed you buy will have been allowed to reach this state as the growers want to maximise weight. Homegrown weed on the other hand can easily be harvested when THC (rather than bud size) is maximised, and is often even picked early due to impatience. This creates the more 'pure' high that you refer to.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: why is homegrown always better? (weed) [Re: felixhigh]
    #8177309 -

Imported weed is grown in poor conditions because so much of it is grown at a time. Homegrown weed is usually planted in potting soil and watered frequently.


--------------------
Turn off your mind, relax and floatdown stream. It is not dying. Lay down all thought, surrender to the void. It is shining.
:darkside: Pink Floyd :darkside:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: why is homegrown always better? (weed) [Re: NlightNd1]
    #8177486 -

Damn you guys just dug up a 6 years old post are you high?


FH

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: why is homegrown always better? (weed) [Re: felixhigh]
    #8177932 -

It's "free"


--------------------
:Awesketch:

:cool: Fair is Fair :devil:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: why is homegrown always better? (weed) [Re: Brainiac]
    #8178343 -

its all the love you put into it, the plant senses your love and attention and it strives to give you the best it can! :heart:


--------------------
And they wandered off.. nine ways till bedfast.
-----
"And lets pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space 'cause theres bugger-all down here on earth!"  -Monty Python's "The Universe Song" from The Meaning of Life
"In the beginning, the universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely considered as a bad move."  -Douglas Adams "The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy"
"If the words 'life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness' don't include the right to experiment with your own consciousness, then the Declaration of Independence isn't worth the hemp it was written on." -Terence McKenna

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: why is homegrown always better? (weed) [Re: Zinglons Acolyte]
    #8178454 -

I think that harvest is a very big part of the picture. The color of the trichomes affects the type of high that will be produced. Handling and packaging is another issue. Real growers know that weed should be stored in glass not baggies.

I believe even that shit that came across the border in a donkey's ass can be made better with a little TLC and know how.

EG

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: why is homegrown always better? (weed) [Re: ethnoguy]
    #8178675 -

sooo many factors

soil or hydro
good soil or bad soil
well flushed or not well flushed
indoor or outdoor
type of weed is it sativa or indica?
genetics behind that weed
was it cured properly?
how old is it?

weed grown from soil, properly flushed and properly cured = top stuff

I think the quality of weed comes a lot from care growing it, one of my grow buddy enthusiasts got some ditch weed that was super seedy and grew it with care and it was above average stuff. (what you could buy here on the streets being average)

If you took any TOP notch award winning seeds and grew them outside without properly prepping the soil just planted them and let nature grow them they'd likely taste like ditch weed.

Some of the best stuff I've actually bought from a dealer was like black berry or whatever grown outside, wasn't super strong but tasted and burned well - was like 1.5 oz for $90 and ounces of good weed in that area are usually 300 a oz.


--------------------
coda said:
imachavel, Man you really need to do some reading, the amount of bullshit you put into almost every single one of your posts is absolutely astounding.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: why is homegrown always better? (weed) [Re: flavoraid]
    #8179449 -

if your weed has seeds it was not picked at a good time and was likely not cured well....if they didn't take the time to grow it well (ie have seeds) than it wont be good pot.


--------------------
The seeds you won't sow are the plants you dont grow.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: why is homegrown always better? (weed) [Re: kadakuda]
    #8179925 -

uh... if ur weed has seeds it was pollenated by a male plant

seeds = offspring of two plants


--------------------
coda said:
imachavel, Man you really need to do some reading, the amount of bullshit you put into almost every single one of your posts is absolutely astounding.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: why is homegrown always better? (weed) [Re: kadakuda]
    #8179945 -

kadakuda said:
if your weed has seeds it was not picked at a good time and was likely not cured well....if they didn't take the time to grow it well (ie have seeds) than it wont be good pot.


If MJ has seeds then it was pollinated. You don't pick weed; you havest it. Picking is for tomatoes and the like. Seeds has absolutely nothing to do with curing....

Something tells me you have no botanical knowledge at all.

EG

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: why is homegrown always better? (weed) [Re: ethnoguy]
    #8179962 -

if you ripped buds from the stems/branches it would be "picking" technically


--------------------
coda said:
imachavel, Man you really need to do some reading, the amount of bullshit you put into almost every single one of your posts is absolutely astounding.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: why is homegrown always better? (weed) [Re: ethnoguy]
    #8179994 -

ethnoguy said:
kadakuda said:
if your weed has seeds it was not picked at a good time and was likely not cured well....if they didn't take the time to grow it well (ie have seeds) than it wont be good pot.


If MJ has seeds then it was pollinated. You don't pick weed; you havest it. Picking is for tomatoes and the like. Seeds has absolutely nothing to do with curing....

Something tells me you have no botanical knowledge at all.

EG


what he was saying is that if the person didnt care enough about the quality of their weed to keep it sinsemilla, then they wouldnt care enough to properly cure their bud


--------------------
And they wandered off.. nine ways till bedfast.
-----
"And lets pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space 'cause theres bugger-all down here on earth!"  -Monty Python's "The Universe Song" from The Meaning of Life
"In the beginning, the universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely considered as a bad move."  -Douglas Adams "The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy"
"If the words 'life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness' don't include the right to experiment with your own consciousness, then the Declaration of Independence isn't worth the hemp it was written on." -Terence McKenna

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: why is homegrown always better? (weed) [Re: Zinglons Acolyte]
    #8180005 -

no he said

"if your weed has seeds it was not picked at a good time and was likely not cured well"

meaning not picking at the right time caused the seeds


--------------------
coda said:
imachavel, Man you really need to do some reading, the amount of bullshit you put into almost every single one of your posts is absolutely astounding.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: why is homegrown always better? (weed) [Re: flavoraid]
    #8180574 -

flavoraid said:
uh... if ur weed has seeds it was pollenated by a male plant

seeds = offspring of two plants


What about Hermies?

If there is only one or two seeds in a big bag, it is more than likely hermie.  If it was pollinated by a male plant it would be nothing but seed and wouldn't have hardly any tricromes.

:shrug: Just my experience in the matter....


--------------------
I didn't want anyone blowing sunshine up my ass

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: why is homegrown always better? (weed) [Re: FondaCox]
    #8180607 -

who would bitch about one or two seeds?

I'm talking about crazy seed weed. Having one or two seeds in your weed still wouldn't be from being "picked" at the wrong time, it would be from the grower not chopping the hermie when he sexed the plants.


--------------------
coda said:
imachavel, Man you really need to do some reading, the amount of bullshit you put into almost every single one of your posts is absolutely astounding.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: why is homegrown always better? (weed) [Re: flavoraid]
    #8182417 -

flavoraid said:
no he said

"if your weed has seeds it was not picked at a good time and was likely not cured well"

meaning not picking at the right time caused the seeds


thanks for letting me know seeds need a pollinator :smile: lol

i am saying you should pick bud at a certan time/point, if there are mature seeds it was probably picked/harvested (i dont care for teminology that much, you still cut the shit) too late....that is what i am saying.  different harvest times (in relation to the plant) and curing methods DO affect the smoke.  weed that has seeds, were likely not grown with either of those in mind...


--------------------
The seeds you won't sow are the plants you dont grow.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: why is homegrown always better? (weed) [Re: kadakuda]
    #8182473 -

fact : the relation between seeds in weed and curing/harvesting method are not related.

obviously when you harvest and how well you cure affect smoke, but ... see fact above.


--------------------
coda said:
imachavel, Man you really need to do some reading, the amount of bullshit you put into almost every single one of your posts is absolutely astounding.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: why is homegrown always better? (weed) [Re: flavoraid]
    #8182477 -

flavoraid said:
fact : the relation between seeds in weed and curing/harvesting method are not related.

obviously when you harvest and how well you cure affect smoke, but ... see fact above.


If the person is too lazy to get seeds in the first place they probably could give a fuck less about curing methods and might cure it but do it a pathetic way. thats his point from what i see.

Kind of like mex brick weed, they just care about getting it to you, not how it smells, tastes, or smokes.


--------------------
Tradelist
My Ethnobotanical Garden
Cup Greenhouse Tek. Make small sturdy pots (With detachable grenhouse tops) with cups.


Your human friend will have to dose atropine uninformed, I will not spread information that may harm a cat. - Wiccan_Seeker

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: why is homegrown always better? (weed) [Re: sublimistri]
    #8182480 -

ah that makes sense.

In that case, I'd agree.


--------------------
coda said:
imachavel, Man you really need to do some reading, the amount of bullshit you put into almost every single one of your posts is absolutely astounding.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: why is homegrown always better? (weed) [Re: flavoraid]
    #8182643 -

i am not saying harvest method i am saying harvest time. if you are harvesting weed when seeds are mature, it is probably being harvested pretty late, no?


--------------------
The seeds you won't sow are the plants you dont grow.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: why is homegrown always better? (weed) [Re: kadakuda]
    #8183054 -

kadakuda said:
i am not saying harvest method i am saying harvest time. if you are harvesting weed when seeds are mature, it is probably being harvested pretty late, no?


Either way its pretty careless to grow weed and settle for anything less than you can possibly do.


--------------------
Tradelist
My Ethnobotanical Garden
Cup Greenhouse Tek. Make small sturdy pots (With detachable grenhouse tops) with cups.


Your human friend will have to dose atropine uninformed, I will not spread information that may harm a cat. - Wiccan_Seeker

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1 | 2  [ show all ]

Shop: North Spore North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   Original Sensible Seeds Autoflowering Cannabis Seeds   MagicBag.co All-In-One Bags That Don't Suck   Sporeworks.EU Spores for European Microscopy

Mushrooms, Mycology and Psychedelics > The Ethnobotanical Garden
Threaded Mode Threaded  Previous topic Previous  View all topics Index  Next topic Next 

Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Weed strains
( 1 2 all )		 Magash 8,999 25 04/05/10 11:10 PM
by oh_you_know
* weed shots
( 1 2 3 4 all )		 Mitchnast 7,233 61 10/02/05 09:02 PM
by Mitchnast
* WTF is up with this weed ?
( 1 2 all )		 Mike_yy 3,321 28 09/20/06 12:36 PM
by NobodyCares
* Grafting Hops to Good weed plant fearforce7 1,316 2 11/05/03 03:39 PM
by Rebirtha
* Accidental weed gardens ~ PART II
( 1 2 all )		 MushroomSally 5,304 23 09/18/03 08:03 AM
by Anonymous
* Horny Goat Weed _cracker 1,731 8 05/01/04 02:29 PM
by _cracker
* Catnip, homegrown, experience report
( 1 2 all )		 Mycomancer 7,555 23 01/01/06 02:39 AM
by Gliders
* Weed Shelf Life *DELETED* xurzax 1,171 14 10/10/06 11:16 PM
by Mr420

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Mostly_Harmless, A.k.a
4,581 topic views. 0 members, 7 guests and 5 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2026 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.035 seconds spending 0.008 seconds on 16 queries.