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 creekfreek
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Yes, they are cubesis, and I grew tham on PF cakes as I dont have a PC yet, so anything else is out of the question at this time.
So if im growing on cakes will all my shrooms be weak like these?
I certainly hope not, that seems like a waste of time and money.
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 Akira
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No no genetics are as important as substrate, that is why i say 50/50. I have seen many cases where they were grown with high nitrogen substrate and mushroom potency was low.
With multi spore innoculations your really rolling dice as far as potency. This is a well recognized fact amongs many veterans in the hobby.
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 Re: Potency  [Re: Akira]
#8391335 - 05/12/08 12:59 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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So its basically a crapshoot with a multispore inoculation?
And with that being said, then I still have a chance of getting better potency on the newer cakes I have going?
I just need to get a PC and do this shit the right way.
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Re: Potency [Re: Akira]
#8391337 - 05/12/08 01:00 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Akira said:
No no genetics are as important as substrate, that is why i say 50/50. I have seen many cases where they were grown with high nitrogen substrate and mushroom potency was low.
With multi spore innoculations your really rolling dice as far as potency. This is a well recognized fact amongs many veterans in the hobby.
I say multi spore has alot to do with it....
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Re: Potency [Re: Brainiac]
#8391462 - 05/12/08 01:52 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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1. Substrate: What substrate are you growing on? Different substrates have different amounts of free nitrogen available for biosynthesis of psilocybin. In other words, if you grew on brown rice flower, then don't expect stellar potentcy. If you grew on grains/rye/popcorn or wild bird seed, expect a little more potency, and if you spawned to horse poo expect maximal potency. I use Alien's Substrate because I have had good results with the potency. (It has a lot of free nitrogen).
It's not proven that substrate has anything to do with potency at all.
You can get extremely powerful fruits from cakes, just as you can get them from any other substrate.
Neither me, nor anyone around ever could tell weather the consumed fruits came from a cake or from any kind of casing.
So as long as it isn't proven we shouldn't state this as a fact.
Let's stick to what we -at least can think- is fact.
The biggest role in potency probably plays the genetics of the phenotype you've grown.
This is more or less a logical conclusion from the fact, that you sometimes cultivate mushrooms that seem to be super powerful, while the next tray, made from the same substrate and the same syringe, doesn't "work" at all.
Sometimes, later flushes appear to be useless, sometimes, they appear to be way more potent than the first flushes.
As long as you do MS inoculation, you can handle it just like Forrest Gump's mother did:
"Mama always said life was like a box a chocolates, never know what you're gonna get."
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dumbfounded1600
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It's multi spore so their is no way of setting a mark on potency. You want consistancy in potency fuck with isolates heh.
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IMHE, every MS, WBS spawned to poo that I have had the pleasure of experiencing has kicked my ass with fairly low doses. I wont even eat half of an eighth of these bad boys...
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