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OfflineGSAfarmer
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Pan. Subb find in Oregon{update on pics}
    #838184 - 08/23/02 01:10 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Last night Joshua and i took some mushrooms and decided to take a journey into the forest. About the time I was grilling pretty hard we walk by a big strip if newly laid lawn, and it was blooming with patches of mushrooms, about three different types. Such a myjestical sight. One type struck Joshuas atttention e thought it looked like Pan. Subb. We took three home look for an ID, it matched pretty well, but we wanted someone which some exeience to officiate it. So are these what we think they are

These were the ones that we picked lastnight




Here is a shot of the gills


This is half of our harvest from today. This half weighed a little over 115g And there is more to come






This guy was our main competitor. We would have gotten well over 2x as much as we did


If someone could help us it would be very much appreciated. have a nice day.................peace


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Re: Pan. Subb find in Oregon [Re: GSAfarmer]
    #838212 - 08/23/02 01:27 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Wow man, very nice amount.
I`ve been picking them buties too in Louisville.
Me thinks they are very potent.
(You should have gotten out your car, ran over, dropped the cunt.)
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Re: Pan. Subb find in Oregon [Re: shroom666]
    #838222 - 08/23/02 01:38 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

hAhA lol we should of, but its all good there will be more soon. Just hope we get there before the mowers do. So would those be identified as Pan Subb.?..................peace


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Re: Pan. Subb find in Oregon [Re: GSAfarmer]
    #838230 - 08/23/02 01:41 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

they have the right features, did you notice and blueing at all? They dont always stain blue. Did you take a spore print?


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Re: Pan. Subb find in Oregon [Re: GSAfarmer]
    #838237 - 08/23/02 01:46 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

100% defo.
You lucky bugger.
(brings a tear to my eye to see such a nice sight)


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Re: Pan. Subb find in Oregon [Re: GSAfarmer]
    #838299 - 08/23/02 02:20 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Those are panaeolina foenisecii or a related Panaeolina. The gills are chocolate brown and the sporepritn will be brown.


Panaeolus subbalteatus has black gills with light white edges and a black spore print.

Here is a picture frm Lizard Kings collectionshowing the gills and the black color fromthe spores.


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Re: Pan. Subb find in Oregon [Re: GSAfarmer]
    #838303 - 08/23/02 02:22 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Those are panaeolina foenisecii or a related Panaeolina. The gills are chocolate brown and the sporepritn will be brown.


Panaeolus subbalteatus has black gills with light white edges and a black spore print.

Here is a picture frm Lizard Kings collectionshowing the gills and the black color fromthe spores.



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Re: Pan. Subb find in Oregon [Re: mjshroomer]
    #838315 - 08/23/02 02:28 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

You are probably correct
but i am sure subs have light colored gills at some stage?
Definetly hallucinogenic,
try em and see......


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Re: Pan. Subb find in Oregon [Re: GSAfarmer]
    #838329 - 08/23/02 02:41 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Yup definetely panaeolinas. Subbs have much darker gills, and most of them have much wider stems.


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Re: Pan. Subb find in Oregon [Re: mjshroomer]
    #838407 - 08/23/02 03:33 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Hey MJ the spore print came out blackish no brown color to it.


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Re: Pan. Subb find in Oregon [Re: GSAfarmer]
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Re: Pan. Subb find in Oregon [Re: GSAfarmer]
    #838534 - 08/23/02 04:47 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

can you post a pic of the lamellae of the large mature specimen in the lower left of the fourth picture?
exept for the gill color they look very much like pan subs but most of the specimens pictured are yung and may not yet have sporulated.


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Re: Pan. Subb find in Oregon [Re: ]
    #838541 - 08/23/02 04:53 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Mr. Mush that woud be great if you could look at a sample what would i send you....a print? pm me if you wouldl ike or post an awnser , i would appreiciate that very much........................peace from your freindly Mycotopian


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Re: Pan. Subb find in Oregon [Re: canid]
    #838549 - 08/23/02 04:58 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Hey Concrete, that mature cap is sporulating. i will take a pic when i juice up the digital camera. the spore look dark and blackish...................peace


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Re: Pan. Subb find in Oregon [Re: ]
    #838569 - 08/23/02 05:15 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks Mr. Mush i will send you a nice dark one. Except it will be sent next week if that is chill.........................peace


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Re: Pan. Subb find in Oregon [Re: mjshroomer]
    #838598 - 08/23/02 05:33 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

This is Joshua.

I will wager the ID of these specimens as being Pan subbs. If I am correct you will put "Joshua is 'da man" in your sig. If you are correct I will put your words of choice in my sig. The sig will need to be maintained for one week.

I will provide the proof once the offer is accepted. I will make the final ID up to you.

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Re: Pan. Subb find in Oregon [Re: mjshroomer]
    #838638 - 08/23/02 05:51 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I was thinking that you were wrong and that these are Pan subs, but, now that I've looked at the gills again, I believe you're right, they look like Panaeolinas.
Like MJ said, pan subs have black to greyish gills lined with a lighter color.

If that spore print turns out jet black, well sheeeit, we be wrong... but if its brown to dark brown... they be Panaeolina.


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Re: Pan. Subb find in Oregon [Re: Gumby]
    #838912 - 08/23/02 07:46 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

when i first found some Panaeolinas i thought they were pann subs but they were a lot smaller then the ones you have and had much thinner stems. I think you have subbs but i have been wrong before with this mushroom


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Re: Pan. Subb find in Oregon [Re: ]
    #838928 - 08/23/02 07:54 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

You get a blue star for your microscopy work. I will send you a print as soon as you PM me w/ your addy. I will throw in an F+ print as well for your efforts.

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Re: Pan. Subb find in Oregon [Re: NewHunter]
    #839228 - 08/23/02 09:54 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

joshua said that Panaeolinas is a synonym for Paneolus , so relitivly speeking they are in the same family


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Re: Pan. Subb find in Oregon [Re: ]
    #839805 - 08/24/02 06:27 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

[re: " I am planning on adding a lot to this forum by posting pictures of different spores under the microscope"]

This is great news, and let me be the first to thank you in advance for your efforts. Being somewhat new to the mushie community, I've been wondering why there isn't a more complete microscopic image library available on the web; it seems to be quite a patchwork with many holes.

It's good to know that someone with experience will be putting up micro-images from an optical scope. That will make the task of accurate identification a bit easier. Right now, my microscope doesn't do me a lot of good as most of the spores I see tend to look the same (i.e. smooth, elliptical, with a pore at one end). That rather generic description has held true for a number of species, including many you wouldn't want to eat! (e.g. Panaeolus semiovatus).

I once thought that using a microscope would be the end-all in quick, easy and accruate identification. I'm learning that the micro-features are simply additional, albeit invaluable, information. Perhaps micro-features are not more siginificant than the macro-features and spore colors of our forest-fungi-friends? In any case, the project you suggest will do a lot to eliminate mis-information and confusion.
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Re: Pan. Subb find in Oregon [Re: jjbigbuds]
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Re: Pan. Subb find in Oregon [Re: GSAfarmer]
    #839893 - 08/24/02 07:39 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Panaeolina is not a synonym for Panaeolus. They are a serarate genera with four known species. Regrardless of the prints. If they are black they are a Panaeolus species, but I will bet that they are not Panaeolus subbalteatus.

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Re: Pan. Subb find in Oregon [Re: ]
    #840277 - 08/24/02 11:41 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Mr. Mush I love the info you are bringing to the post. I would love to see the microscopic pics that you said you had. Do you think that there is a large enough difference with differnt varieties of Panaeolus to id from a microscope?.....................peace


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Re: Pan. Subb find in Oregon [Re: mjshroomer]
    #840424 - 08/24/02 01:12 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

In Stamets book, "Psilocybin Mushrooms of the World," the page that refers to Panaeolus subbalteatus refers to it as Panaeolina subbalteatus also. Do you know why this is? I found slight bluing at the base of one of the specimens. What is your main reason for thinking these are not subbs? When I read through the description I find that everything matches. What would be a determining difference in IDing these as subbs or not?

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Re: Pan. Subb find in Oregon [Re: Joshua]
    #840647 - 08/24/02 03:30 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I think they are subbs...based on the reddish stem, white underneath cap, cap color almost has a metallic sheen to it...instead of the more brown foenescii. They look like classic examples of moist new lawn subbs...which is the only place I have ever found subbs...if the print is black like you said...then you should be good to go.

BTW MJshroomer, I am very curious as to what other species of paneolina grow in North America...even eastern NA...because I think after much research that I have found some others than foenescii...way too big to be foenescii, anyways I will post some pics when I get a chance...cheers.


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Re: Pan. Subb find in Oregon [Re: Joshua]
    #840676 - 08/24/02 03:43 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

the duplicate names are a product of improper placement of the species in the first place, offten a species will be placed in one genus and later be reclasified in another if it is found to belong but sometimes it takes a long time for everyone to catch on and some use outdated guides that where made before the change. i hope this clears that up.


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Re: Pan. Subb find in Oregon [Re: Joshua]
    #840961 - 08/24/02 06:08 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)


Joshua, I see not reference on any of Pauls three pages where he refers to Panaeolus subbalteatus as Panaeolina subbalteatus.

John

P.s. The caps of P. foenisecii are always conical and never going flat and P. subb caps are never even under the gills intheir shapes and uslally flartter with aging, in borth young and older specimens.

Read Pauls description in his pictures of these shrooms

As fir the dufference. Subbs grow cepitosely to gregarious in Manure. Not lawns and never singularly like in your colelctions. The length of the mushroom and the skinniness of the specimens also indicate it is not a P. subb.

mj

Read my pm. I cn have those analysed in a laboratory in less than a week at Nestles or from Dr. Joseph Amirrati of the Univ of Washingtons Mycology Department. Amirrati wrote the large mPoisonous and edible shrooms of Canada books, 2 I think.

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Here is an image of panaeous castaneifolius by Jeremy Bigwood. This shows you that yor collection is not P. castors.



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Re: Pan. Subb find in Oregon [Re: mjshroomer]
    #840969 - 08/24/02 06:12 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

dude those look exactly like what i found the other day


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Re: Pan. Subb find in Oregon [Re: mjshroomer]
    #840974 - 08/24/02 06:18 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Dude,
you just identified one of my mysterious pans that i`ve been finding.
Nice one.


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Re: Pan. Subb find in Oregon [Re: mjshroomer]
    #841014 - 08/24/02 06:45 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I beg to differ MJ, I have very often found Pan subbs growing directly from lawns.

I do agree with you as far as Pan subs never having concial caps though. I've never ever seen a pan sub with a conical cap. The caps are always spherical, later oping to flat, and eventualy the edges will start to wave/curl.


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Re: Pan. Subb find in Oregon [Re: mjshroomer]
    #841317 - 08/24/02 10:12 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I will send you a print. I plan on using a microscope at my University to look at the spores, and gill surface soon. I am sure the color of the prints is black. I have several prints that I have made. If they are all black this will indicate Paneaolus as the genera and eliminate Panaeolina as a sub-genera. Of the remaining Panaeolus species that display banded caps (P. acuminatus, P. fimicola) none resemble the specimens we picked. The cap size of the P. subbs description is also accurate to the mature caps of the specimens we picked.

As far as the habitat difference between the subbs and foens; these were picked from a disturbed environment. The grass was just laid down this spring. I bet the sawd was fertilised and high in nitrogen just as dung is. The mycelium network is most likely thriving below the grass layer in what ever underlayer they laid down. As you recognise, new environments are being created by man that are excellent environments for mushrooms to grow in that usually grow in disimilar wild

I was mistaken about the panaeolus/panaeolina reference, it was the foenisecii that is referred by both genera names. Stamets also states that one gentleman (Rolf Singer) preferred the sub-family definitions of Panaeoloideae (which include Panaeolina) and that he as well as Perez-Patraca, Guzman, and Georges M. Ola'h (who spent a lifetime studying this genera) consider Panaeolina to be a sub-genera classification at most and believe it may be unecessay.

For those interested in reading up on this, read pgs 67-68 in Stamets, "Psilocybin Mushrooms of the World".


If we found a new species I need to start considering names, perhaps Panaeolus Joshuaisdamansis .

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Re: Pan. Subb find in Oregon [Re: Joshua]
    #841566 - 08/25/02 03:16 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Quote from Joshua, "If they are all black this will indicate Paneaolus as the genera and eliminate Panaeolina as a sub-genera."

Joshua, there are four different species of Panaeolina. All four species have chocolate brown spores and a chocolate brown sporeprint, not Black.. If the spores are black it is a species of Panaeolus, not Panaeolina.

If you read Allen and Merlin's paper on Observations of Panaeolina foenisecii in the General sexction of this website you will see the original names of this species as posted below along side the four Panaeolina species.

HEre are the four species of Panaeolina, all which resemble each other macroscopically.

Panaeolina foenisecii (Pers. : Fr.) Maire [= Panaeolus foenisecii (Pers.: Fr.) K?hner; Psathyrella foenisecii (Pers. : Fr.) A.H. Sm.]

Panaeolina rhombisperma Hongo (about Gerhardt, 1996, this is a nom. excl.) [Horak (1980) considered this species as Crucispora rhombisperma (Hongo) Horak]

Panaeolina sagarae Hongo (about Gerhardt, 1996, this is a nom excl.)

Panaeolina microsperma Natarajan & Raman (= Panaeolina indica Sathe & J.T. Daniel; this is the true name about Gerhardt, 1996)

ere is the generic breakdown of the names of the species Panaeolina.

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From Allen & Merlin, 1993 Yearbook for Ethnomedicine and the Study of Soncsciousness.

Over the past 75 years, P. foenisecii has been placed in various genera, including Psilocybe (Ricken 1915), Coprinus (Michael 1919) and Psathyrella (Smith 1972). Taxonomic reference to the genus and synonyms for the species include the following binomials listed according to their chronological taxonomic description.


Panaeolina R. Maire, Treb. Mus. Nat. Barcel. ser. Bot. 15:109 (1933).
Type species: Agaricus foenisecii Pers.:Fr., Syst. Mycol. 1:295 (1821).
Typonym: Psilocybe Fayod, Ann. Sci. Nat. (Bot.) 7(9):377 (1889).

Panaeolina foenisecii (Pers.:Fr.) R. Maire (Haymakers).

Agaricus foenisecii Pers.:Fr., Syst. Mycol. 1:295 (1821).
Psilocybe foenisecii (Pers.:Fr.) Quelet, Champ. Jura. Vosges 1:47 (1872).
Drosophila foenisecii (Pers.:Fr.) Quelet, Enchiridion:117 (1886).
Psathyra foenisecii (Pers.:Fr.) Bert, Bull. Soc. Mycol. Fr. 17:227 (1901).
Panaeolus foenisecii (Pers.:Fr.) Kuhner. Botaniste 17:187 (1926).
Panaeolina foenisecii (Pers.:Fr.) R. Maire, Treb. Mus. Cienc. Nat. Barcel. ser. Bot. 15:109 (1933).
Psathyrella foenisecii (Pers.:Fr.) A. H. Smith, Mem. NY Bot. Gdn. 24:32 (1972).



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Re: Pan. Subb find in Oregon [Re: Joshua]
    #841719 - 08/25/02 06:56 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I regularly find subbs growing from sawd. However, they vary from the ones i find in horse fields. They usually have thinner stems than the ones growing from horse dung, tend to be smaller, and their are usually grow in thicker groups than the horse dung variety. Mature specimens do not have conical caps, and have a prominent band. Many of your specimens remind me of the subbs i find. Of course, there is a possibility of these being a new species. I'll do some prints next time my patches pop up.


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    #842055 - 08/25/02 12:19 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I was worndering. Lets just say it might be a new species ,what is the best to detemine that it is? Is it more or less through a microscope, and to eliminate all closly related Paneaolus varieies? Two facts are clear: One is that is is growing in newlly laid lawn, seccond is that it prints black. Aslo I notice that it has a mre prominent band on it when the fruit is in its younger stage and the band tends to fade as it matures and when it is starting to dry out, except when the smaller one are drying they keep the band. hope the last bit of info might help out a litlle................................peace


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    #842074 - 08/25/02 12:31 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I really doubt that it is a new species. It was too common in the lawns were you were and shrooms grow very well in new lawns. Here in the PNW blue ringers are as abundant as the Hay mowers mushroom and while you may have possibly picked a few subbalteatus in the collection I still would say that the majority of those musrhoms are Panaeolina foenisecii. I have shown dark prints to many people of Psilocybes which appeared to be black prints and they are actually purple to chocolate brown.

Here is a print of Cubensis which looks to appear to be black. This is from a photograph developed at a private photography shop here in seattle which is great for showing true colors.



Anyway, I await a print from you. But I am still positive that you have a massive lawn fruiting of Panaeoilinas or a non active species at the least.

And again the stems are pretty thin to be subbs.
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    #842090 - 08/25/02 12:40 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I was just say the new species thing on a hypothetical level. Also i was wondering if you might have a brown print that could be mistaken for a Pann. print, instead of the print of th Cube? Thanks for the info......................peace


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    #842162 - 08/25/02 01:37 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Hey there,

The two on the outside in the first picture sure look a lot like the ones in the Audubon book plate 91. Their description fits pretty well...

Cap: 11/4-2"(3-5cm) wide; conical to expanded, with central knob; smooth to roughened, moist, dark, and tawny fading to tan, with broad, dark-belted zone around the margins.
Gills:attached, close, broad; brownish, becoming blackish, mottled.
Stalk:15/8-4"(4-10cm) long, 1/8-1/4" (3-5cm) thick; reddish-brown, covered with white hairs, sometimes bruising blue at base.
Spores: 11-14 x 7-9 u; elliptical, smooth, with pore at tip. Spore print blackish.
Edibility: Hallucinogenic
Season: June-July
Habitat: Scattered to numerous, on dung and manured soil; often in gardens
Range: Widely distributed in North America.
Look-alikes: Psathyrella foenisecii grows in grass. Panaeolus acuminatus is reddish-brown and does not bruise blue.
Comments: This hallucinogen is common enough to be considered a weed.

Juan/Javier got his first good Ps. Cube. boomer from outside. It came from an area where several types that did not pan out inside were placed. Very nicely medium/light chocolate center (looked like a small brown volcano) with nipple moving to tan to the edges. Well formed 2 inch cap, half inch thick stalk and very, very potent....whew!!! I watched "Kiss of the Dragon" with Jet Li and mesmerized! Prints were taken...

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Re: Pan. Subb find in Oregon [Re: mjshroomer]
    #842699 - 08/25/02 07:37 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

MJ, thought dark prints can appear black you can usualy do a brightness enhancement and botain an exagerated version of the color. below is the picture you posted with a level 20 brightness enhancement;

you can clear ly see that the color is purple. this may not always work and with some software you may get artifacts of color that are not there but overall you can tell the actual color.
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    #842931 - 08/25/02 08:59 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Yo Concrete that is a good idea. We should try that with print of ours. Joshua has a nice dark one. Will it be accurate by taking a good closeup shot with a digital camera? If so we shall post a pic of the print.............................peace


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    #844423 - 08/26/02 02:46 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Here are a couple of pics of the prints we made.




These set of pis were taken a few days after our first find





I noticed that the mature ones tend to loose the band on the caps.


Hope you enjoy the new pics

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    #844527 - 08/26/02 03:32 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

those prints look black to me. The stems seem way thinker then any panilonias(sp) that i find and it looks like a sub to me in all features now that i looked at the print.
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    #844709 - 08/26/02 04:42 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

No rain, more like Sprinkler^^^Sprinkler^^^Sprinkler^^^
It hasn't rained in a few weeks and the last time it did rain it was not that much.

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    #844746 - 08/26/02 04:57 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

we got rain in vancouver last night just enough to piss me off when i was transplanting some plant to the moutains


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    #845222 - 08/26/02 08:20 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

yeah the sprinklers just arnt cutting it for me, i could go for a good few days of hard rain!!!!

Have you tried any of them yet cause if they are not subbs the are the panilonias and they are find to eat. I think it would be safe to test. I bet you will trip!!!


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    #845302 - 08/26/02 08:54 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I say again subbs...or another related active pann...looks very much like the ones I find here in the East...growing from lawns...certainly not foenescii or any other panaeolina for that matter....nice finds.

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Re: Pan. Subb find in Oregon [Re: GSAfarmer]
    #845308 - 08/26/02 08:55 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

here?s a pic of the print enhanced by level 20:

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    #845765 - 08/27/02 05:15 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Hi GSA FArmer, well those last images you posted definately look like Pan Subbs but I am guessing that you have a mixed collection. The gills and shapes of the caps are definaleyt Pann Subs. next time poost images of the shapes of the caps. They are not always round but will be three quarters round and then a sharp straight kind of one side of the outer shape of the gills appear curved to straight.

Anyway, I obnly doubted the taller thin ones but loking at the grass I can see the grass was tall.

Now, to remind you they will only pop up for a few years. many new lawns which produce blue ringers lose their lawn service after a year or so. And /or they stop deeding the fertilizers to the new lawns.

I have seeen that happen when Soouth Center Shopping Mall In Tukwilla after 22-years of Evergreen Lawn Service stopped fertilizing and cutting the many thousands of lawns in the Senter and Industrielle park side of the mall. Ap place were 80 percent of the lawns produced mass amounts of Blue Ringers, and Baeocystis shrooms for years on end.

I even took Andrew WEil there to pick Baeocystis.

Anyway I was wrong but congradulations on the score.

They are either pan subbs or P. olivaceus. I will give yur print to Dr. Joseph Amiratti (not suee off hand of the spelling.

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    #846030 - 08/27/02 06:56 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah they're definitely subbs. Although I've never found them in lawns, they look very similar to the ones I picekd today. I've found that in smaller specimens, the gills tend be a lighter, brownish/tan color, while the large ones have very dark gills. I took some pictures to prove that, but now that the discussion has been resolved I won't post them. Nice find GSA Farmer!! Have fun!


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    #846152 - 08/27/02 08:09 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Nice pics and post.

Black spore prints.

After reading everything mj typed i would
Put my guess on them being Panaeolus olivaceus

It just seems to elegant of a collection for them to be Pan subbs.

...far out shit man.
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    #846822 - 08/27/02 01:33 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks all for your help. But tonight will be the last set of pics . They will be the most promanent, mature patches yet. Joshua and I went on a jog back to our spot, and found the best specimins. I took a few home and noticed that there was some nice signs of blueing at the base of the stalks. I hope you all stay tuned to our final feature............................peace


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    #846872 - 08/27/02 01:58 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Nice find guys. Is a bioassay in order?

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    #846915 - 08/27/02 02:19 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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    #847686 - 08/27/02 08:09 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I'm an elegant mutherfucker...yo!!!

What kind of personal input do you have to argue for the ID of these specimens to be P. olivaceus. I don't have my ID books w/ me to read the characteristics of the aforementioned species, but I am %99.9 sure these are subbs.

Pics to follow very shortly that should help to rest any doubt regarding the Id of these specimens.


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    #847876 - 08/27/02 09:15 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Mr_Mushrooms, the color enhancement is a type of plugin. it also comes default with most of the better photo editing aplications (i'm using MGI PhotoSuite). it basical replaces dark gray values with the coresponding light gray values while preserving any all black or all whight values.


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    #847906 - 08/27/02 09:28 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

wow, what a great score! did the both of you just stumble upon these specimens or was it a planned hunt of some sort?


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    #848021 - 08/27/02 10:17 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I dunno mutherfucker yo.

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    #848236 - 08/28/02 02:15 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Hey Snobrdr311 yes we did just stumble apon them, we were shrooming at the time also.


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    #849094 - 08/28/02 01:00 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

OMG!!!!!!! This is crazy. We went back last night to take some pics and havest a few good ones, and here is our Final Feature...............



They were phucking every where .


This is a beautiful culsterfuck. you can see very young one to very mature fruits. I love how ther almost formed a ring.


We were gizzing in our pant every minite of it.


My favorite shot of the night.


It took a little over two hours to pick what we have. We came back with roughly about a quarter pound(dry) of them. We could barely fit them on three window sized screens, and no the little screens a that. Joshua will be posting a new post on the havest, and the new ones to come. I really hope you enjoyed this post as much as i have..............................peace out ?till next time

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    #849193 - 08/28/02 01:52 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

The incredible part is that each pic was a different patch and those were only the big ones there was smaller ones everwhere.....................peace


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    #849332 - 08/28/02 02:55 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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    #849393 - 08/28/02 03:41 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Great shots! Yes those certainly are new lawn sprinkler system loving subbs. Congrats...was waiting for someone else to find them too.

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    #849466 - 08/28/02 04:26 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Very good find dude. I love finding subbs in mass amounts. They seem to like it here in NY. A 1/4lb dry is quite a bunch!! I love the pan subb trip..have a good time!!!

p.s- Anyone know why the subbs in Oregon look so dissimilar to the subbs here in NY?!?


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    #849483 - 08/28/02 04:38 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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    #849531 - 08/28/02 05:09 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I just gazed at those pictures in complete awe for almost five minutes. Those are like the ones i find near my house times about 100x. Awesome find man


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Re: Pan. Subb find in Oregon{update on pics} [Re: Joshua]
    #849799 - 08/28/02 07:30 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Hey there,

Well, they look right (they are about the color of the horse poo tea I made) and there sure are a lot of those subb umbrellas...heheh! Very interesting..they probably used manure when they were working around those grassy areas!! Real fine Earth bounty you guys received...enjoy.

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Re: Pan. Subb find in Oregon [Re: GSAfarmer]
    #849825 - 08/28/02 07:38 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Hey there,

Finding those is just about as good as getting a freebie pack of 5 varieties of beans straight from Breeder Stever in Lugano. Those look great!

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Re: Pan. Subb find in Oregon [Re: KingBolete]
    #849968 - 08/28/02 08:58 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks all for being a great audience. I have to give Joshua madd props for IDing them or this post might have never been here. Joshua and i are plannig a camping trip and bringing som tea along for some mental refreshment.....hehe. Can anyone discribe what the trip is like on Subbs I have never had them.
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Re: Pan. Subb find in Oregon [Re: GSAfarmer]
    #849993 - 08/28/02 09:07 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

i am now masturbating.

ive seen lawn flushes like that on my own lawn before and i gotta say, you can throw one wicked party
i once took a 1/2 dried lb of those and split it 6 ways for a hard-to swallow massive group dosage of communal thinking and loss of reality.
throw a party. take pictures of the party and post them.
and keep a trip journal of evrything that happens no matter how unfun it might be at the time.
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Re: Pan. Subb find in Oregon [Re: Mitchnast]
    #850305 - 08/29/02 02:46 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

........................................................
Asolutly amazing.
Makes me wanna move from this shitty un mushroomed state good find man.


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Re: Pan. Subb find in Oregon [Re: Dobie]
    #850487 - 08/29/02 06:52 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Very nice.. lucky you!


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Re: Pan. Subb find in Oregon [Re: Mitchnast]
    #850550 - 08/29/02 07:32 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

GSA- I really really enjoy the subb trip. When I ate them fresh the first time, I ate alot, and went on a pretty strong level 3. It was very very nice..a great body high, with very vivid, beautiful visuals. Enjoy!!


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Re: Pan. Subb find in Oregon [Re: flanders53]
    #850745 - 08/29/02 10:02 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

DAMN, those subbs are growing like blue ringers. That is such an awesome find!!!!! I need to go run and check out this brand new housing development today.

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Re: Pan. Subb find in Oregon [Re: mjshroomer]
    #850975 - 08/29/02 11:54 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Do you have any references for P. olivaceus. I found that the species is sometimes grouped w/ Panaeolina. This would indicate to me a brown sporeprint and roughened spores.


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Panaeolus olivaceus F.H. M?ller (it is sometimes confused as a synonym of P. castaneifolius, see that)

Panaeolus castaneifolius (Murrill) A.H. Sm. (= ? P. olivaceus F. H. M?ller; Panaeolina castaneifolia (Murrill) Bon; P. castaneifolia (Murrill) Ew. Gerhardt, this latest seems the true name, see Gerhardt, 1996)

What characteristics would set this species apart from subbs? I do recall looking at the pic of Panaeolus castaneifolius in Stamets book, Psilocybin Mushrooms of the World, and determining from the pic that I was collecting a different species.

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    #851430 - 08/29/02 04:26 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I was referring to P. olivaceus as far as not knowing what charactreistics to look for. I brought up Panaeolus castaneifolius because when I searched for olivaceus I found a cross reference for castaneifolius.

I left a message w/ a mycology prefessor here at OSU. Hopefuly he will call back soon. I will try borrow a microscope tomorrow.

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Re: Pan. Subb find in Oregon [Re: ]
    #852097 - 08/29/02 09:43 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Can't wait...for the results...I mean I know for sure some of the prints I sent you are subbs...but the others, very curious.

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Re: Pan. Subb find in Oregon [Re: ]
    #853392 - 08/30/02 03:15 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks alot Mr_Mushrooms that is good to hear...............................peace


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Re: Pan. Subb find in Oregon [Re: ]
    #853560 - 08/30/02 05:30 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks a lot! Where did you obtain your standard?

I read a bit on subbs in Stamets book. He mentioned that the subb species varies a bit in its habitat and its appearance, I believe he suggests that the subb specie is either a dynamically characterised specie or that there are actually several very closely related species grouped into the subb specie name. This would account for the difference in macroscopic appearances of subb collections through out the world.

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Re: Pan. Subb find in Oregon [Re: GSAfarmer]
    #855594 - 08/31/02 09:12 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Thats it GSAfarmer, i'm comin over for a visit. lol. Beautiful pictures.
And Mr_Mushrooms, i continue to be impressed by the attention to detail and dedication you show in your study.


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Re: Pan. Subb find in Oregon [Re: canid]
    #855904 - 09/01/02 12:01 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks Concretefeet for your kind words. Anytime you want to come to this part of the land no worrys about the fungi.

And Mr. Mush you r the shit on you IDing skills. Joshua made some tea tonight and he said he felt something, very mild but it wa nice, But then again Joshua has quit a tolerance. but he thinks that the potency in the fruits over each flush mlght get stronger. That or we will be takin madd doses, wich i dont mine as long as they are in tea form.......................peace


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Re: Pan. Subb find in Oregon [Re: GSAfarmer]
    #856138 - 09/01/02 05:14 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I had noticed this too about potency, the very first flush seemed weaker than subsequent flushes...cheers.


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    #856373 - 09/01/02 09:35 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Hey Mr_Mushrooms
you wouldn't happen to be able to take a pic of the spores when they r magnified.?

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    #856446 - 09/01/02 10:06 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

ahhh i c well if you figure it out let us know. I think it would be a great feature on IDing for the forum............peace


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Re: Pan. Subb find in Oregon [Re: GSAfarmer]
    #857333 - 09/01/02 05:21 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I just realized that this thread has to be right up there with being one of the longest ever in the hunting forum...cheers.

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    #858054 - 09/01/02 11:44 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Thank you for your encouraging words!

I made tea from 10 grams of the dried specimens. My trip was very weak. No stomach discomfort was felt.

StThomas-
I just threw out that remark regarding the potency increasing w/ successive flushes as a hypothesis. I am glad to hear you have noticed this type of occurance.

Free tea for anyone who visits us in Oregon!

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    #858347 - 09/02/02 07:39 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I will have some darjeeling too...happens to be my favorite black tea...nice.

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    #858608 - 09/02/02 11:08 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

There will be more to come so there is well enough


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    #859448 - 09/02/02 07:00 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

It is finally raining here so i am hoping to score some mushrooms within a few days!!!!


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    #859513 - 09/02/02 07:34 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

good luck. hope ya find some....................peace


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