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Offlineast
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storeing cow/horse dung
    #838133 - 08/23/02 12:23 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I found a good source for cow/horse dung... I was planning on filling about 50 rubermaide containers full of it and storeing it in my garage for the winter so I dont have to go picking horse shit in the winter time.. is there anyting wrong with doing that?

would having the dung in a closed rubermaide container screw up the dung and make it rot in anyway? or breed bad bacteries?



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Re: storeing cow/horse dung [Re: ast]
    #838187 - 08/23/02 01:10 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

if it is allready bone dry, and you put dessicant (not in contact with the dung) in the container, there will be few problems.


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Re: storeing cow/horse dung [Re: ast]
    #838851 - 08/23/02 07:17 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

You can store it with some straw and let it compost


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Re: storeing cow/horse dung [Re: entheo_smurf]
    #839221 - 08/23/02 09:45 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I just finished reading the section in the mushroom cultivator about composting.. and it sounds very complicated.. you would need a huge setup to compost your own stuff... and the rooms they talk about setting home in the book are insane..

way over kill for a home grower imho...

whats the advantage over composting then just using straight from a cow pasture...


i have not seen a single post about composting on here yet..



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Re: storeing cow/horse dung [Re: ast]
    #839681 - 08/24/02 05:09 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Your anerobs break down a lot of your undesirables. And if you just left your poo and straw mixed together outside it would still compost. Might not be at optimal temps, but hey home cultivators gotta make due.


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Re: storeing cow/horse dung [Re: ast]
    #839965 - 08/24/02 08:28 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

50 rubbemaid tubs? LOL. If they are big ones, that is about 80 pounds of dung each. Unless the stuff is cracker dry.

Man, just find an outdoor spot to pile it or build a 3 sided bin & pile it in that. No need to keep it in the rubbermaids.

Simple quasi/compost is to drill lots of 1/4 inch holes in a 45 gallon rubbermaid type trash can w/wheels on the bottom & in rings around the sides up to 3/4 of the trach cans heighth. Layer straw, dung straw, kitchen vegitable & fruit refuse -- so on & so forth until almost full -- wet down & let it compost.

Have something under it to catch the run off.

Empty on tarp & remix after 2 -- 3 weeks, add some gypsum & reload. After another 2 -- 3 weeks, it is good to go. You can tell when its good -- as the content of the trash can settles. Meaning the straw is breaking down. Use as needed. Get 2 or 3 of these going in cycles & you have a source of quasi/compost that is never ending.

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Re: storeing cow/horse dung [Re: SixTango]
    #840392 - 08/24/02 12:49 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

thats a pretty neat technique Six...however, why do you add gypsum? I thought that was used to make things stick less...? DId you mean calcium carbonate? Thanks for the simple compsting idea...are the vegatable scraps composted through after these few weeks? ---Ec0


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Re: storeing cow/horse dung [Re: EcoFreako]
    #840838 - 08/24/02 05:10 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

It is basic and used counter the acidity to keep the Ph up.


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Re: storeing cow/horse dung [Re: entheo_smurf]
    #842000 - 08/25/02 11:07 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

the reason for using rubermaides would be to be able to bring it inside a basement or inside a garage... back a truck load of cowshit into the garage would seem kinda weird..


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Re: storeing cow/horse dung [Re: ast]
    #842117 - 08/25/02 12:57 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Backing in a truck load of "garden -- flower bed -- compost" -- >wink & grin< in any spot where there is soil is no more "weird" or strange than packing 50 full rubbermaid containers into a garage. Especialy if "someone" looked in them to see what the content was. To hide in "plain sight" can make ones goings on -- almost invisable to those who pay attention to others -- comings & goings. IE -- nosey neighbors.

The neighbors all compliment the Raccoons flower beds, rose garden & vegatble garden. He gives then some cut flowers & home grown sweet cob corn, squash, zuccini, carrots & other vegatbles every summer & fall. They all think he has a "green thumb" and never ask any silly questioins about compost, peat moss or venmaculite getting unloaded in his yard.

They all say -- they wish they coul grow flowers & veggies like that........

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[Re: SixTango]
    #842527 - 08/25/02 06:05 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: storeing cow/horse dung [Re: matts]
    #842886 - 08/25/02 08:42 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

i jumped the gun and bouight 50 rubermaide containers before i read much about bulk growing thinking i would use them as terrariums so i wanna put some to use..


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[Re: ast]
    #842902 - 08/25/02 08:48 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: storeing cow/horse dung [Re: matts]
    #845571 - 08/27/02 01:20 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Get hesian sacks and store your poo in them.
That way your poo wil dry because of the extra gaseous exchange and will also store for an extended time period.


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