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 Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. 
#8353738 - 05/02/08 12:59 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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http://www.wsoctv.com/news/16117100/detail.html?taf=char
IREDELL COUNTY, N.C. -- Josh Parlee walked in silence as he was led to jail by a Troutman detective.
The 19-year-old South Iredell High School student is charged with murder in the death of 15-year-old Micael Lane.
Officers said Parlee sold the teen a potent drug called oxymorphone. It's what doctors said Lane took just before he died from a drug overdose.
Tom Lane, Micael's father, said he’s devastated by his loss.
"Nobody expects to get a phone call that says your child's dead. There’s no way to describe it. It's the worst feeling you could ever have," he said.
Lane said everything went wrong one night in January. His son was spending the night at a friend's house in Troutman. Investigators said both smoked marijuana and took the oxymorphone. They overdosed on the drugs and the teens were rushed to area hospitals.
Micael Lane's friend survived, but he did not. Now this father said his goal in life is to get lawmakers to make drug laws on juveniles tougher.
He agrees his son made a big mistake, but said he shouldn't have had access to the drugs.
"Call it peer pressure, call it stupidity, he took something he shouldn't have taken," Lane said.
Lane said he thinks about his son every day, and he said the pain of his son's loss is as intense as ever.
Eyewitness News asked what he would say given the chance to talk to the teen accused of giving his son the drugs that killed him.
"He needs to pay for what he did, and he needs to know the consequences of his actions. My son died for $5," Lane said, referring to how much officers said the teens paid for half a pill.
Parlee's father said his son has not been convicted of anything and he's innocent until proven guilty. Parlee is being held in the Iredell County Correctional Facility under a $300,000 bond.
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 Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: rugergirl79]
#8353849 - 05/02/08 01:27 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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"Micael Lane's friend survived, but he did not. Now this father said his goal in life is to get lawmakers to make drug laws on juveniles tougher."
Yes, we got to keep the pharm companies away from our kids.
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: rugergirl79]
#8353850 - 05/02/08 01:28 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i hate when this happens. It's the kids fault he overdosed, not the dealers. If i overdosed on vodka the guy who i bought it from wouldn't be charged with murder. It just doesn't make sense.
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: biggysmall]
#8353860 - 05/02/08 01:33 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i thought it was silly too......
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: rugergirl79]
#8353911 - 05/02/08 01:50 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i agree with biggysmall
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: Lukeman]
#8353919 - 05/02/08 01:55 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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You can OD on half an Oxymorphone?!
That seems a bit odd.
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: RoosterCogburn]
#8353944 - 05/02/08 02:03 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i think its the dads fault as much as the pill dealer
cuz the dad should have educated his son about dangers of pharms and other drugs
always quick to point a finger they r
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: Coaster]
#8354116 - 05/02/08 02:52 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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ITS SOMEONE ELSE'S FAULT!!!!!!!!!! Goddamit, when will people take responsibility for their own actions?
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: learningtofly]
#8354117 - 05/02/08 02:52 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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learningtofly said:
ITS SOMEONE ELSE'S FAULT!!!!!!!!!! Goddamit, when will people take responsibility for their own actions?
ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, never
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: Coaster]
#8354137 - 05/02/08 02:58 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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wut if somoone gets caugh with morphine, sue da pharmacy?
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: RoosterCogburn]
#8354162 - 05/02/08 03:12 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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RoosterCogburn said:
You can OD on half an Oxymorphone?!
That seems a bit odd.
i thought the same thing..
my guess is the kids were drinking, too, and the article fails to mention that.
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: Yoschie99]
#8354186 - 05/02/08 03:20 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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duh cuz alcohol is perfectly legal and isn't even a drug.
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: learningtofly]
#8354573 - 05/02/08 04:58 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i for one think this is some of the dumbest shit ever. your son is a fucking dumb ass. he didn't do his research and he didn't realize how potent this drug was. he ingested it he overdose. it was his choice to take it (its just like the fucking people who sued McDonald's because they got fat no one else could ever make the decision for you to eat something (willingly) and it is absurd to say otherwise) and it was your bad parenting that let him into that environment. blaming the makers of the drug or whatever is a sad sad way to deal with your shitty parenting. it is people like you who cant deal with your shitty problems and their shitty consequences who make this world a horrible horrible place. i personally am outraged to hear this shit it makes me fucking SICK! i wrote a journal about this verry thing not to fucking long ago if you like what i said here you should read it
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: biggysmall]
#8354805 - 05/02/08 05:52 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i hate when this happens. It's the kids fault he overdosed, not the dealers. If i overdosed on vodka the guy who i bought it from wouldn't be charged with murder. It just doesn't make sense.
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: frisky_]
#8354823 - 05/02/08 05:58 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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these cases have been increasing
ever since that chick pressured her friend to do E and then died
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: Coaster]
#8357123 - 05/03/08 10:04 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Its not Josh's fault its the kids, he only sold it to him;; if he was a "good" kid he wouldn't have taken it am i right? Josh shouldn't be in jail for anything except selling drugs to a minor he shouldn't be in jail for second-degree murder.
Edited by JoeyNJess (05/03/08 10:05 AM)
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: JoeyNJess]
#8358731 - 05/03/08 07:03 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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wow thats pathetic. people in america will nerver take the balme for anything. it is always someone eleses fault. if the doctor prescribes me some lorcets and i od and die can the doctor or the pharmacy that filled my prescription be charged with 2nd degree murder?
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: bmiller09]
#8358945 - 05/03/08 08:08 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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damb i live in iredell co. ...small world
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: rugergirl79]
#8362472 - 05/04/08 07:14 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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josh is a very good friend of mine this is a horrible tragedy and i am sick to my stomach because of it this is complletley unjust and no one cares to take into consideration that lanes friend nick who overdosed as well nicks mother was aware and present in the home of the incedent the entire time this is completley unjust and unfair to see such a good friend of mine to be locked up for such bull shit and both teenagers had alchohol ectasy pot is thier systems before even takeing the oxy
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: alexweinerdog]
#8362559 - 05/04/08 07:37 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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This happens all time.
Dllagwagon, another poster here, is in jail for the same thing. He sold some pills to a girl who died and was charged w/ her death.
It's a terrible law.
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: Madtowntripper]
#8362972 - 05/04/08 09:10 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Holy shit. I live like 30 minutes from here. I didn't think oxymorphone was THAT strong. I've done one before..it was mildly strong.
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: alexweinerdog]
#8363053 - 05/04/08 09:28 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
alexweinerdog said:
josh is a very good friend of mine this is a horrible tragedy and i am sick to my stomach because of it this is complletley unjust and no one cares to take into consideration that lanes friend nick who overdosed as well nicks mother was aware and present in the home of the incedent the entire time this is completley unjust and unfair to see such a good friend of mine to be locked up for such bull shit and both teenagers had alchohol ectasy pot is thier systems before even takeing the oxy
dam hes ur friend, wut a bummer dood
tell us some more details
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: Jrsxt]
#8363607 - 05/04/08 11:49 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Holy shit. I live like 30 minutes from here. I didn't think oxymorphone was THAT strong. I've done one before..it was mildly strong.
45 minutes from me
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: Brainiac]
#8363802 - 05/05/08 01:12 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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60 minutes from me
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: rugergirl79]
#8363908 - 05/05/08 02:07 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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rugergirl79 said:
Now this father said his goal in life is to get lawmakers to make drug laws on juveniles tougher.
what a dumbfucker
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: beatyou]
#8364143 - 05/05/08 07:04 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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couple thousand miles from me.
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: beatyou]
#8365149 - 05/05/08 02:02 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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actually you need to get your facts correct....i don't advocate for tougher laws on kids ...i think the parents need to take some responsibility on what their kids are up to and where they are. i just posted the story cause i thought some people in the shroomery would be interested in it. so you my friend are the fucking moron.
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: rugergirl79]
#8365151 - 05/05/08 02:03 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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30 min from me......cabarrus county here
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 Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: rugergirl79]
#8368054 - 05/06/08 08:13 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I am the father and have read the postings on this site and most of you do not have a clue what you are talking about. My son did not take the pill it was slipped to him because he was an honor student and was getting transfered to another school. He spent the night at a friends house and they slipped him the pill. There are several arrest yet to be made. My son was on sports and was tested for drugs all the time never was positive. You need to have your fact right before you slander a 15 year old.
get a clue!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: Coaster]
#8368060 - 05/06/08 08:17 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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if you seem to know so much the tox test show only oxymorphone in the system not even pot. If you have so much info why dont you contact someone to help your friend.
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: purplexeddad]
#8368062 - 05/06/08 08:18 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Can we get a puppet check on aisle 4 please?
If you are him, sorry for your loss, but people aren't slandering your son, I don't think, rather; they're stating that folks need to be responsible for their own decisions.
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: Invisible_Woe]
#8368084 - 05/06/08 08:31 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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You don't have a clue my son did not take anything it was slipped to him. that is why he is the only one that was affected. You bias's comments are not warranted nor productive to anyone. You pride yourself on your wisdom, then may be you should research the wholebefore you arbitrary or capricious verbiage comes flowing out your ass.
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: johnm214]
#8368093 - 05/06/08 08:34 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I agree with your statment however it was not his decision to make. By have someone alter what is given to you can not be anyones fault but the ones who did the act. My son is gone by the hands of several people involved and they will be brought to justice!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: purplexeddad]
#8368112 - 05/06/08 08:46 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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it seems you are the bias one? I would also like to know why a grieving father would be browsing the shroomery?
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: purplexeddad]
#8368118 - 05/06/08 08:49 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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well if someone decided to dose him without his consent then sure, they should be prosecuted, however; the comments were directed towards the version printed in the news. Perhaps you should direct your efforts towards the paper, and then we can post the correction.
biggysmall: I'm sure he just googled the kids name, presuming he is the father, which isn't a great presumption at this point.
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: johnm214]
#8368758 - 05/06/08 12:58 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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OK I know Josh. He is a senior this year. Loves baseball and did play for the school team. What a awesome guy he is. The charges on him are very tough. What I understand about the system now is that if I go take someones gun and harm someone then the person who owns the gun will be charged with the crime?? I know justice will be served and truth will be revealed. I do know justice will not ease the pain . Life is forever changed.
My heart goes our the the Lane family. I cannot even begin to imagine.
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: purplexeddad]
#8369404 - 05/06/08 03:41 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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> You don't have a clue my son did not take anything it was slipped to him.
I don't see how or why someone would slip the kid oxycontin.
"Here, its candy. I know it tastes nasty but eat it anyway."
Sounds like a waste of drugs. Oxy's are expensive, no one would buy them just to give them away to people that didn't want him. Its not like his friends wanted him to pass out so they could rape him. Its more likely that he took the pill to get high and then later tried to get out of trouble by telling the paramedics that someone slipped it to him.
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#8369431 - 05/06/08 03:49 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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ya oxys can cost up to 80 dollars. High school kids don't spend that kind of cash on pranks.
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: biggysmall]
#8369591 - 05/06/08 04:24 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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ya oxys can cost up to 80 dollars. High school kids don't spend that kind of cash on pranks.
Damn I wish, I could sale mine for that...
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: Brainiac]
#8369615 - 05/06/08 04:29 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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why how much you getting?
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: biggysmall]
#8369731 - 05/06/08 05:00 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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30 for 3.00 from walmart from a pain doctor
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: biggysmall]
#8436127 - 05/23/08 07:52 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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I google my sons name to see what was written about him to clear his name and correct any injustice.
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#8436136 - 05/23/08 07:55 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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again you don't have a clue!!
It was oxymorphone, Nick Bolton bought it for $ 5.00 and my son never talked to anyone he was dead when ems arrived. Before you shoot off your teen age mouth try learning god gave you two ears and one mouth for a reason. LEARN YOUR FACTS.
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: purplexeddad]
#8438645 - 05/23/08 11:04 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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how about you stay out of my thread! if you want to warn or threaten people, join MADD or some other type of organization....or maybe even start your own thread. if you really are the father, you need to move on and do something constructive with your life. maybe you could teach parents the important value of knowing what the fuck their children are up to.....and maybe even teach them the importance of having a close relationship with their children, so that in the future when their children want to do something stupid, the kids may find it a little easier to come to their parents and talk to them without being ridiculed and bashed. like i said, stay out of my thread if all you are going to do is bash and be negative. peace!
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: rugergirl79]
#8439392 - 05/24/08 04:31 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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rugergirl79 said:
how about you stay out of my thread! if you want to warn or threaten people, join MADD or some other type of organization....or maybe even start your own thread. if you really are the father, you need to move on and do something constructive with your life. maybe you could teach parents the important value of knowing what the fuck their children are up to.....and maybe even teach them the importance of having a close relationship with their children, so that in the future when their children want to do something stupid, the kids may find it a little easier to come to their parents and talk to them without being ridiculed and bashed. like i said, stay out of my thread if all you are going to do is bash and be negative. peace!
wow dude, the guy (if he really is the father) is just saying that his son was dosed without his consent (the son's) and died. It could be bullshit, it could be true, at least give him the benefit of the doubt.
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Woman charged in drug-related death [Re: John Smith]
#8439501 - 05/24/08 07:11 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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http://www.charlotte.com/609/story/634252.html
Woman charged in drug-related death
KEVIN CARY
kcary@charlotteobserver.com
A Cornelius woman was charged today with buying and distributing the drugs that led to a teenager's death in January.
Troutman police charged Victoria Brown, 42, with two felony counts of drug possession with intent to sell or deliver.
Her son, Joshua James Parlee, 19, was charged May 1 with second-degree murder in the death of 15-year old Micael Lane. Troutman police said Lane died Jan. 12 after taking oxymorphone.
Troutman Police Detective Dana Blalock said Brown had a prescription for the drug but gave them to her son. "My investigation led me to enough evidence that (Brown) had given him the medicine to sell it," Blalock said.
An autopsy showed Micael died of acute oxymorphone toxicity. Oxymorphone, known by the prescription name Opana, is six to eight times more potent than morphine, Blalock has said.
Micael had moved to the area from Arizona about two months before his death, Blalock has said.
Brown was taken to the Iredell County Jail under a $50,000 bond. She faces a sentence of six to 10 years in jail for each count if she is convicted of both, Blalock said.
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Re: Woman charged in drug-related death [Re: Anno]
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thanks for the update.....i was going to post this a min ago but read your post. thanks again.
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: Madtowntripper]
#8439739 - 05/24/08 10:16 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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In Washington a couple of kids are getting charged for murder because they each sold a girl one tab of 'E' and she died. As if two hits of Ecstacy just kills people left and right and they meant it as a murder weapon.
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: purplexeddad]
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Officers said Parlee sold the teen a potent drug called oxymorphone. It's what doctors said Lane took just before he died from a drug overdose.
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"Call it peer pressure, call it stupidity, he took something he shouldn't have taken," Lane said.
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"He needs to pay for what he did, and he needs to know the consequences of his actions. My son died for $5," Lane said, referring to how much officers said the teens paid for half a pill.
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You don't have a clue my son did not take anything it was slipped to him.
I dont understand. Please enlighten me.
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: purplexeddad]
#8443532 - 05/25/08 12:58 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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75 miles from here....
About a year ago an acquaintence of the brother of a close friend was charged with murder for providing a speed-cut pill with about 2/3 meth and 1/3 MDMA. She was anorexic and mixed the pills with cocaine and alcohol. She died. I told another aquaintence to tell her to watch the combos and two weeks later she died.
My friend got a murder charge. He got it dropped, due to the fact that the judge was sympathetic with the insanity of that sort of charge for something so crazy. Was scary for a bit though.
This is why you DON'T SELL DRUGS TO ANYONE... AANNYYOONNEE under the age of 18. Ever. Period. Unless you are yourself under 16, but then you still shouldn't be doing substances due to the fact that you are still developing.
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: numonkei]
#8443572 - 05/25/08 01:08 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Oh... and fuck this kid's dad if this asshole above is actually him. Maybe you should have taught your kid to find out what he puts into his body before doing so.
This isn't only applicable for drugs. Anyone who feed their kid fast food five days a week should be charged with murder also by this logic.
Once again, fuck this perplexeddad character. At least his kid isn't suffering in this bogus police-state. I know these restrictions against the drugs are what made me want to start shooting dope at 15
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 Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: numonkei]
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i couldn't have said it any better myself.....thanks monk for the backup. perplexddad is a douche.
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: Postulio]
#8450940 - 05/27/08 03:08 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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misquote I said sic" call it peer pressure, call it stupidity, they took it upon themselves to do something stupid"
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: numonkei]
#8450953 - 05/27/08 03:11 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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It is so easy to be outspoken and speak out your ass when you hide behind a computer screen. You have lost touch with human reality and should always remember what goes around comes around. ASS HOLE!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: rugergirl79]
#8450975 - 05/27/08 03:16 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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It nice to be an underachiever in life and hide behind the governments money while you stay on line and spout arbitrary and capricious statements out what you call a mouth. Since we know what type of person you are and the type of clean time your mouth has had we will chalk your words of wisdom up to another waste of human life absorbing real peoples air. looser
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: purplexeddad]
#8451538 - 05/27/08 05:45 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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looser........i know what my kids are up to you moron. underachiever, my kids don't buy drugs.....<<<<;) and the only looser that i can say that we have here is the fact that a boy lost his life because of a stupid action. he wasn't forced to eat the pill, so do pull that shit with me. hopefully you wont have any more children that you can ignore and trust that teachers and television to raise just like millions of people in the usa.
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: numonkei]
#8453458 - 05/28/08 12:34 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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about 25,000km from me
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: rugergirl79]
#10977873 - 09/01/09 07:09 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have alot of mixed emotions about this case. But the one thing that sticks out in my mind is that Parlee has no sorrow, remorse or compassion for the death. He showed no caring upon finding out about it and continued to use drugs and sell drugs. He continued to be the worthless criminal that he has always been, even after spending some time in jail. He continued to rack up alcohol and drug charges even after being charged with murder. Apparently, he doesn't learn from his mistakes and that makes him just another piece of shit repeat-offender that needs to be removed from our community. Those that support Josh Parlee are more than likely the same crew he runs with and they are merely panicking about how they will be able to get high if Josh isn't around to hook them up. Apparently, Josh's friends haven't learned from his mistakes either. Of course, I don't think Josh should go down alone for this; his sorry excuse for a mother and her home health care nurse should be equally prosecuted, right along side of Josh because they made a profit off of the drugs that they supplied for him-the drug that killed that boy.
I understand that the boy that died is solely responsible for taking the drug that killed him and that is a tragedy. But maybe Josh should've took a minute to explain this drug and its powerfulness before selling it to naive children. Maybe Josh should've been more selective in who he sold this power-house drug to. But, then again, maybe Josh should've gotten a REAL job, like alot of people do, instead of trying to make his living as a criminal.
We'll see what happens........
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: biggysmall]
#10978140 - 09/01/09 08:53 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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biggysmall said:
If i overdosed on vodka the guy who i bought it from wouldn't be charged with murder. It just doesn't make sense.
Yeah, he can be, if it's a bartender or server of some type. It depends on the state and locality. Happens often enough.
Doctors that prescribe medications that then cause death are also liable, in criminal and civil court. If the patient has a sensitivity to opiates and dies as a result, doctors are still liable to being sued in many states, even though you can't account for that at all.
So while the 'kid' did take the drug, he is after all a minor. If it were a 'legal' case, i.e. doctor and patient, the doctor would be looking at serious consequences. So I see no reason why this 'adult' (19 year old boy) can't be charged with the 'minor's' death.
Sell drugs to minors, face the consequences. 
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: rugergirl79]
#10978146 - 09/01/09 08:56 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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rugergirl79 said:
looser........i know what my kids are up to you moron. underachiever, my kids don't buy drugs.....<<<<;) and the only looser that i can say that we have here is the fact that a boy lost his life because of a stupid action. he wasn't forced to eat the pill, so do pull that shit with me. hopefully you wont have any more children that you can ignore and trust that teachers and television to raise just like millions of people in the usa.
Flat out spoken like someone who doesn't have teenage kids.
If you have little kids or toddlers and you are claiming you know what they do 24/7 100% of the time, you're a flat liar.
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: Madtowntripper]
#10978490 - 09/01/09 10:18 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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question is, why the fuck do pharms sell these pills? they're a bunch of money-hungry assholes
My teacher told me this story once about a farmer who took care of sheep. One day, they all got sick, the farmer simply went to an animal doctor, they gave him the diagnosis of the animals, and asked "how much would you be willing to pay to save your livestock?". The farmer simply replied "5 dollars each", so the man was paying 5 dollars for each pill that would cure them. This other man had diabetes and was also sick with the same disease, but instead of the man bed-ridden with diabetes, his dad asked a doctor for a cure and of course, the doctor replied "How much would you be willing to pay to save your dad's life?". The man simply replied "Anything, just please..help".
Later on in the story, the man who originally wrote this was doing a report on pharmaceutical companies and their evil ways, found out that the farmer who paid 5 dollars a pill was buying the same medicine that the man with diabetes was consuming at 1000$ for the prescription.
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: biggysmall]
#10978714 - 09/01/09 10:56 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ok Why is the alleged father, why has he been a registered member of the Shroomery since May 2008? Something doesn't add up?!?!
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: MomaFUNKDance]
#10978742 - 09/01/09 11:02 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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MomaFUNKDance said:
Ok Why is the alleged father, why has he been a registered member of the Shroomery since May 2008? Something doesn't add up?!?!
Perhaps because that's around the time the original post was created? Try to be a little more diligent.
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: SuperD]
#10978753 - 09/01/09 11:05 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Fuck diligent, why was this thread bumped a year and 1/2 later. SUck it.
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: MomaFUNKDance]
#10978755 - 09/01/09 11:06 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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The fuck if I know why it was bumped, I was just answering your original question.
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: SuperD]
#10978759 - 09/01/09 11:07 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've been a total asshole today, I should probably go outside for a bit.
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: UpSwell]
#11070427 - 09/16/09 01:58 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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This is very tradgic all around no one wins the boy going to prison, his family, the boy who died, his family, no one.
I think more time should be spent on the possiblity of killing our kids on a very powerful drug then is spent on pointing fingers at the deceased family, the child, the seller, the pusher, or anyone else.
Just remember that a 15 year old child who did not have a chance to start his life, has died and left behind his little brother.
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: MomaFUNKDance]
#11070448 - 09/16/09 02:03 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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I googled my sons name and found this site in order to comment about the entries I had to register. I continue to monitor my sons name over the net and will post accordingly.
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: purplexeddad]
#11071785 - 09/16/09 05:39 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: 2859558484]
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unfortunately your son was not mentally fit enough to survive his teenage years, it was natural selection.
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: beatyou]
#11083036 - 09/18/09 12:18 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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How does oxymorphone compare to oxycodone?
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: purplexeddad]
#11085130 - 09/18/09 06:18 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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purplexeddad said:
This is very tradgic all around no one wins the boy going to prison, his family, the boy who died, his family, no one.
I think more time should be spent on the possiblity of killing our kids on a very powerful drug then is spent on pointing fingers at the deceased family, the child, the seller, the pusher, or anyone else.
Just remember that a 15 year old child who did not have a chance to start his life, has died and left behind his little brother.
First of all, yes it is complete ridiculous that the person who sold it, his life is now ruined due to someone elses mistake. As someone previously stated, if alcohol was sold to someone who then drank too much and died, would the person working at the store that sold it be put behind bars for a long time, ruining that persons life just because of someone elses mistake he had no control over?
Second, I understand you want something/someone to blame but it is also unfair to blame the drug. If anything blame drug prohibition. He apparently was exploring with all sorts of drugs (as many young kids do, allured by mysterious forbidden taboo they hold). Well he was getting them from a drug dealer who has no age restrictions (like alcohol/tobacco), provides no information on what he's selling, and has no clue what exactly is in what is being sold. It is well established that a portion of the population chooses to indulge in recreational drug use, but we choose to fight a war against this idea instead of accepting it and working towards reducing the harm that can come about though making these choices.
Instead he could have potentially been refused sale until he was older, properly informed of the effects and risks, and provided a pure clean substance. Its no question that he chose to indulge in drugs (as many people do) but why do we force a rather large percentage of americans who want to use drugs to do so under these circumstances?
I say blame our nations policy on how we handle substance/substance abuse. TONS of lives could be saved and many more lives could be vastly improved with a reasonable, harm reduction approach instead of our 'war' where the only victims are the american people, and in this unfortunate case, your son.
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: purplexeddad]
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purplexeddad said:
This is very tradgic all around no one wins the boy going to prison, his family, the boy who died, his family, no one.
I think more time should be spent on the possiblity of killing our kids on a very powerful drug then is spent on pointing fingers at the deceased family, the child, the seller, the pusher, or anyone else.
Just remember that a 15 year old child who did not have a chance to start his life, has died and left behind his little brother.
Sir, if you are the kids father, I am deeply sorry for you. I really am. I don't know what it'd be like to lose my son. But I can tell you this.
This happened for a reason, by god, by buddha, by someone/something. I bet it hurts, and I bet you want justice, but what can you do if your not informed?
You need to see the world for what it is. Try living in your son's shoes before he died. Try dealing with the shit in highschool again, then try taking a drug. I suggest LSD. You will realize the thoughts behind your sons actions, and why he did what he did.
Try it. What do you have to lose? Your son is already gone.
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: Agent MadHatter]
#11089210 - 09/19/09 01:39 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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I feel bad that a father with a dead child has to look at these forums for closure and what not. Forums are excellent for settling debates among political issues, chemistry, mushroom identification, etc... However when it comes to something so personal such as this, I believe people lack the empathy and boundaries to ever bring the appropriate responses to such an incredibly personal life changing event. People should refrain from spouting off their heartless opinions to a father who is going through something I believe is safe to assume that a good majority of us have not experienced.
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: shah]
#11092771 - 09/20/09 12:37 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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I can't believe how many people think that selling drugs that have the potential to kill is OK. Those drugs kill people when prescribed by doctors, why wouldn't it happen to street dealers?
Yes, the kid should have known better. But to stand up for a scumbag drug dealer....
You all talk about people being responsible for their actions, but what about being responsible for selling deadly drugs? Especially to children.
It may not be murder but it sure as shit should have serious consequences....
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: Twiztidsage]
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You all talk about people being responsible for their actions, but what about being responsible for selling deadly drugs? Especially to children.
It may not be murder but it sure as shit should have serious consequences....
You're missing the point everyone is trying to make. There is no such thing as a 'deadly drug', you sound like a DARE pamphlet. There are TONS of things you can easily buy at your local stores that will kill you. Tylenol can and does kill people. Where can you really land the blame for tylenol deaths then? The manufacturer? No, they tell you how to properly and safely use it. The store who sold it? No they just sell the stuff to people who want to buy it. The user who decides they want to down the whole bottle? Yes because they choose, with their own free will to improperly use the product they bought.
Hell anyone could go buy lye at a hardware store and be a dumbass and chug it. Do you then charge the hardware store clerk for selling it? That would be insane.
What about my earlier alcohol example? Alcohol is a deadly poision when improperly/irresponsibly consumed. Should a clerk who unknowingly sells alcohol to a person who then goes on to drink himself to death or drink and drive be charged for a crime? That too would be insane.
So why should a drug dealer be held to any different standards? The dealer just sells what people want to buy, he's not trying to kill anyone. But if someone he sells to goes off and makes poor decisions and dies, the dealer gets charged as if he had murderous intentions. The dealer's life is then ruined because of someone elses poor decisions. Just like people who get hit and killed by a druk driver; suffering due to someone elses poor decisions.
So then if you think that drugs like these are dangerous due to their abuse potential (seeking the high) and their availability to children, then go back and see what I wrote about ending prohibition. Instead of being forced to buy on the black market, users could purchase clean pure substances, be required to be fully educated on their risks, and have age restrictions (like alcohol/tobacco) to prevent children from making a mistake in judgement before they are old enough to make a proper decision on whether they want to use. The black market doesnt care if you are 2 or 29, if what they are selling is clean or laced with dirt, and they assume u know what you are doing. We choose to ignore and fight against users instead of work with them and improve both their lives and lessen their impact on society.
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: Nova]
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You all talk about people being responsible for their actions, but what about being responsible for selling deadly drugs? Especially to children.
It may not be murder but it sure as shit should have serious consequences....
You're missing the point everyone is trying to make. There is no such thing as a 'deadly drug', you sound like a DARE pamphlet. There are TONS of things you can easily buy at your local stores that will kill you. Tylenol can and does kill people. Where can you really land the blame for tylenol deaths then? The manufacturer? No, they tell you how to properly and safely use it. The store who sold it? No they just sell the stuff to people who want to buy it. The user who decides they want to down the whole bottle? Yes because they choose, with their own free will to improperly use the product they bought.
Hell anyone could go buy lye at a hardware store and be a dumbass and chug it. Do you then charge the hardware store clerk for selling it? That would be insane.
What about my earlier alcohol example? Alcohol is a deadly poision when improperly/irresponsibly consumed. Should a clerk who unknowingly sells alcohol to a person who then goes on to drink himself to death or drink and drive be charged for a crime? That too would be insane.
So why should a drug dealer be held to any different standards? The dealer just sells what people want to buy, he's not trying to kill anyone. But if someone he sells to goes off and makes poor decisions and dies, the dealer gets charged as if he had murderous intentions. The dealer's life is then ruined because of someone elses poor decisions. Just like people who get hit and killed by a druk driver; suffering due to someone elses poor decisions.
So then if you think that drugs like these are dangerous due to their abuse potential (seeking the high) and their availability to children, then go back and see what I wrote about ending prohibition. Instead of being forced to buy on the black market, users could purchase clean pure substances, be required to be fully educated on their risks, and have age restrictions (like alcohol/tobacco) to prevent children from making a mistake in judgement before they are old enough to make a proper decision on whether they want to use. The black market doesnt care if you are 2 or 29, if what they are selling is clean or laced with dirt, and they assume u know what you are doing. We choose to ignore and fight against users instead of work with them and improve both their lives and lessen their impact on society.
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: Invisible_Woe]
#11093052 - 09/20/09 02:01 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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You're missing the point everyone is trying to make. There is no such thing as a 'deadly drug', you sound like a DARE pamphlet.
I get the point. Do you? Some drugs kill quite easily, while some cannot kill at all. If you are going to work in the illegal black market, selling items that may kill, you should be held accountable for your actions; as well as the purchasers.
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There are TONS of things you can easily buy at your local stores that will kill you. Tylenol can and does kill people. Where can you really land the blame for tylenol deaths then? The manufacturer? No, they tell you how to properly and safely use it. The store who sold it? No they just sell the stuff to people who want to buy it. The user who decides they want to down the whole bottle? Yes because they choose, with their own free will to improperly use the product they bought.
Those people are trying to die. You cannot blame someone else for suicide. Selling someone medicine when you are not a doctor is just as irresponsible as taking medicine not prescribed by a doctor.
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Hell anyone could go buy lye at a hardware store and be a dumbass and chug it. Do you then charge the hardware store clerk for selling it? That would be insane.
It wouldn't be insane if the clerk told you that you could get high off of drinking it.
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What about my earlier alcohol example? Alcohol is a deadly poision when improperly/irresponsibly consumed. Should a clerk who unknowingly sells alcohol to a person who then goes on to drink himself to death or drink and drive be charged for a crime? That too would be insane.
Drug dealers are already breaking the law, and are not regulated to be selling the items in question. If the clerk were selling black market booze, then maybe.
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So why should a drug dealer be held to any different standards? The dealer just sells what people want to buy, he's not trying to kill anyone. But if someone he sells to goes off and makes poor decisions and dies, the dealer gets charged as if he had murderous intentions. The dealer's life is then ruined because of someone elses poor decisions. Just like people who get hit and killed by a druk driver; suffering due to someone elses poor decisions.
I don't think he is a murderer. He is a scumbag drug dealer though.
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The black market doesnt care if you are 2 or 29, if what they are selling is clean or laced with dirt, and they assume u know what you are doing. We choose to ignore and fight against users instead of work with them and improve both their lives and lessen their impact on society.
Exactly. All they care about is the money to be made illegally, and they care nothing about the lives they disrupt.
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 Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: Brainiac]
#23785037 - 10/30/16 10:59 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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look i dont know who you think you are but my brother died and was a kid and what happened was horrible i had seen him two weeks prior and bought him a christmas gift. people should not down grade someone that is not even here to defend himself. its immoral and not very empathetic.
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: sadsister1980]
#23785048 - 10/30/16 11:06 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Fucking murder? WTH.. As the big pharma co. are raking in record profits.. I have never heard of murder or manslaughter convictions for them due to overdoses or complications..
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durian_2008
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: rugergirl79]
#23785999 - 10/30/16 03:52 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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In spite of disrespectful tones, the only specific downgrading I saw, is that he didn't know his tolerances.
I don't know how he took the pill, or how that was ascertained.
I do know that his name will effectively be cleared, at the end of the newscycle.
In general, I give all people the same dignity as an adult, assuming they know right from wrong. My attitude is that it happened to a person.
But, secularly speaking, that substance was as amoral and inanimate as a lever, hammer, or glass of water, without human intervention.
According to Geraldo Rivera and Freeway Rick Ross, it was the authoritarians, who created an artificial demand for it. It was used as an under-the-table fundraiser and for political gain.
These people see your family and community as collateral damage, and your approach reinstates their moral authority.
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: RoosterCogburn]
#23791398 - 11/01/16 01:41 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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You can OD on half an Oxymorphone?!
That seems a bit odd.
If it's a 40 you can.
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Re: Iredell county student charged with death of 15 year old. [Re: vandago]
#23791403 - 11/01/16 01:41 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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What I find more odd is 20 mg of opana being 5 bucks.
I would not be here right now. I'd be dead.
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