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Re: Frequent Psychedelic Use [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #8341805 - 04/29/08 02:05 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Apollyphelion said:You can hide it though. Remain silent that these worlds exist in the face of normality. Their normalities a realm you conciously chose to leave and may never come bback to.




why would you want to hide it?? i talk to my friends about psychedelics all the time. i have intrigued a few to at least give it a try once and several are starting to become psychonauts because they have found something that have never had before. i really think if tripping was exposed to the masses and saw that it isn't just seeing pink flying elephants and a constant giggle, they would take it way more serious and probably have way more interest.


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Re: Frequent Psychedelic Use [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #8341839 - 04/29/08 02:13 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Who here is a frequent user of psychedelics? We might say Shroomhead or Acidhead to give it some sort of negative connotation, especially when looked at from the standpoint of a non-drug user. Eitherway you look at it, I trip often, a lot of other people do, and why do we do it? I think tripping often is a complex subject, and what drugs people choose to use often usually says more about the drug than the person.

In all honesty, I wouldn't do Shrooms just about everyweek, like I do LSD. Shrooms are just way too weird, introspective and emotional, unpredictable and make me feel crazy. All things I like, however the trip is always so pertinent, I only feel the need (there is no need I guess?) to USE mushrooms every so often. Way too "significant" You get shit done with the mushroom. I also feel I am familiar enough with the shroom to know what it will do to me, more or less of course; The figuring that some of the trip might be at least random algorhythmical based crosswirings of associations always will lead to new journeys.

Salvia I feel the need to do it even less than mushrooms. Like once every few months. The personal purpose it way more out of focus than it is compared to mushrooms. I mean, to me, mushrooms have a clear and obvious point (peak), while Salvia is like a dirty window to me. OR it is like a giant mixing board: I have an idea of how they relate, however not a clue as to what all those buttons and knobs do. I can talk about shtuff I don't know about all day, so that is always fun.

LSD though, my favorite Psychedelic Tool I have used by far, I use quite often. I have what this shit is doing to me down to a science, nigga. Almost total awareness of how it affects me, although not that pretentious;-) It is always talked about how LSD produces a "clean, clear-headed, open cognitive experience" to be general/generic. I must agree with the generalities; especially on low-doses I always feel the ability to easily socially interact, remain pretty much ego-static. It is almost like seratonin with a kick at small doses.

I don't care to elaborate how I use it but what I use it for is basically: Music, Art, and Humour pretty much, and a few other "mental practices" that usually take a backseat when put up against the previous endeavors. Weed the same. Now if you read this far, I may have romanticized the frequent use of psychedelics a bit too much: Yay! I do all this fun stuff high everyweek! Awesome for me! I'm going to keep sucking my own dick!;-)

However, as with most journies and jobs, there are dangers. I think in the world of psychedelics the dangers are more related to mentation and the how you label the intergrated experiences of tripping. There also comes the social stigma, amongst fellow trippers even "Why do you feel the need to trip so often?!", and from peers and family if they happen to take notice.

I know when I need to take a break. The drug LETS you know is one way I've heard it decribed before, and I think this to be true. It is similar to the feeling you get when you see some nasty food, and you can sympathize with it, but won't bring yourself to eat it. A vacation from the drug (we're still BEST friends man, just need a break from you!) Also, other signs inculded for me: Weed makes ya trip more, you feel like your tripping on the day you would normally trip, or you get the feeling like "it's going to be another day at the office" Signs that tell me, your sword isn't broken, but it will be if you don't sharpen or temper it again.

The social stigma also sucks. as said prior, sometimes people who Trip themselves will deem it unneccesary if they are people who space out their trips. Of course your trips will be more intense! I'm not going for intense though! I'm going in to do a specific thing using a spefic chemical! I know what I want to do with it, okay? I think it is more important to repsect yourself and others than it is to repsect the chemical. Or in other words to repect the chemical means an attempt to be fully aware of the consenquences while using it;

I felt like writing about frequent dosing, as I never read about it often, thus ful-fulling the self-prophecy of releieving my boredom. Also, I would like to hear (as always) other people's opinions on high-dosing, and if it relates to the tool like aspects of the drug, possibly.:sun:

I have :peace: names!

EDITED: Spelling mistakes, nothing serious.




i know frequent shroom use with me made me have bad anxiety for quite some time


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Re: Frequent Psychedelic Use [Re: smokeybear]
    #8342221 - 04/29/08 04:14 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Apollyphelion said:You can hide it though. Remain silent that these worlds exist in the face of normality. Their normalities a realm you conciously chose to leave and may never come bback to.




why would you want to hide it?? i talk to my friends about psychedelics all the time. i have intrigued a few to at least give it a try once and several are starting to become psychonauts because they have found something that have never had before. i really think if tripping was exposed to the masses and saw that it isn't just seeing pink flying elephants and a constant giggle, they would take it way more serious and probably have way more interest.




To better explain my morning ramble, I was merely saying in the face of some close-minded people, the whole idea of psychedelics and their very nature is one of the lasts things they want to hear about. I've met a few people like this.

I've also encountered people who would never try it, but have an open mind and appreciation for it.

When dealing with stubborn people, there might be a side of you they will never relate to.

I tend not to worry about it though.


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Re: Frequent Psychedelic Use [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #8342346 - 04/29/08 05:03 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I've been on a growing path towards frequent psychadelic use, but can in no way say I'm as experienced as some people here. That doesn't precisely make me lesser (okay in a way it does, but I'm taking no guff!), but certainly newer. I used to smoke mary jane every night for about a year, which even when compared to my recent introduction to mushrooms and lsd are still vibrant and fantastic experiences, if very different. I got into Salvia just around the same time as I really began smoking weed, and have continued to do so, infrequently, into the present day.

I just recently had a "binge", after I'd procured a swaft of both shrooms and acid, with a big trip, medium trip or mini trip roughly every week, scattered judiciously. I've been slow in getting myself introduced to the market so to speak, and after finally getting a supply I felt like a man who had been starving but hadn't known what food was until that moment. Now I'm down to my reserves, and saving them for something important in the next week or two.

The main issue for me right now is getting a constant, reliable supply, that I feel comfortable with. Also have a few things in my life that I need to either smooth over, or at least confront and deal with. After that's finished, I think I'll be returning to a semi-regular schedule of tripping... that mainly depends on what I feel. Even while I was on that binge, I rarely if ever took the drug because I felt like I wanted to: I did it because I felt like I needed to. I haven't felt like that recently, and I try to listen to myself. I think it's because I know I have issues I need to get resolved before I make the next step. Once I do, I'll get back into the swing of things: exploring the psychadelic realm is very gratifying for me, and helps me grow a lot, sometimes in ways I'm a little fearful of, but never regretful of. Frequent psychadelic use for me means seeing new ways in which the world may fit together, getting new answers, and finding new questions to ask. It's also a method of healing certain aspects of myself and my body, as well as strengthening it.

Approaching the whole affair shamanistically, even though in a very rough and tumble, instinctual way, has been rewarding so far. Thus I intend to pursue that route.


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Re: Frequent Psychedelic Use [Re: pothead_bob]
    #8342744 - 04/29/08 06:57 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Hey,

I am glad that I am not the only one that uses the mushroom maybe a bit more often. I am still in the exploration phase of the mushroom, although I had the big luck to get initiated by a Shaman in the Amazon about two month ago with seven Ayahuasca ceremonies.
Since Ayahuyasca is more difficult to get here in the US, I have started to work with the mushroom. My first trip was with 2,2 g dry about 4 weeks ago and last week I did 3,5.
For my body it feels absolutely ok to trip about every 8 - 10 days.
Thats about three times a month, well - am I already considered as frequent user in you opinion ????
I would like to know what kind of "standard" or "baseline" you use to determine what frequent means.
Anyways, I had incredible interesting experiences so far, and I am really curious to explore more and see how deep the rabbit whole goes.

Also I see myself on a kind of shamanic journey, so I personally don't see this as a drug. I want to explore the other side, this closed eye visions and spirits .... so I need to keep pushing this way.
My next trips will have increased dosages and I will consider MAO inhibitors as well to get close to a intense DMT experience as described in Rick Strassmanns book DMT, The spirit molecule.

Do you think I should feel bad about it, do you think this way I abuse the mushroom experience ???

I don't think so, but I would be curious to get your opinion on this..


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Re: Frequent Psychedelic Use [Re: The Joker]
    #8342767 - 04/29/08 07:04 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Hey,

I am glad that I am not the only one that uses the mushroom maybe a bit more often. I am still in the exploration phase of the mushroom, although I had the big luck to get initiated by a Shaman in the Amazon about two month ago with seven Ayahuasca ceremonies.
Since Ayahuyasca is more difficult to get here in the US, I have started to work with the mushroom. My first trip was with 2,2 g dry about 4 weeks ago and last week I did 3,5.
For my body it feels absolutely ok to trip about every 8 - 10 days.
Thats about three times a month, well - am I already considered as frequent user in you opinion ????
I would like to know what kind of "standard" or "baseline" you use to determine what frequent means.
Anyways, I had incredible interesting experiences so far, and I am really curious to explore more and see how deep the rabbit whole goes.

Also I see myself on a kind of shamanic journey, so I personally don't see this as a drug. I want to explore the other side, this closed eye visions and spirits .... so I need to keep pushing this way.
My next trips will have increased dosages and I will consider MAO inhibitors as well to get close to a intense DMT experience as described in Rick Strassmanns book DMT, The spirit molecule.

Do you think I should feel bad about it, do you think this way I abuse the mushroom experience ???

I don't think so, but I would be curious to get your opinion on this..




i used to shroom heavy doses every 5 or so days, like over a quarter a time, you get into a very abstract state of mind, and when society and life here infringes on you, you don't really know how to deal with that kind of stress, in our society, with our responsibilities, its not good to be out in that frame of mind. IMO


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Re: Frequent Psychedelic Use [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #8342981 - 04/29/08 08:03 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Last time i tripped was in the fall on shrooms. Sometimes I get into tripping on all sorts of stuff more frequently but usually i wait a bit. im planning to trip real soon though. especially with summer coming and the weather changing itll be great being outside tripping.

asas far as frequent tripping goes and my opinion is that whatever works for you is cool. whatever works for any person is fine. so i think if you trip more frequently than most and whoever else does its fine as long as youre ok with what youre doing.


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Re: Frequent Psychedelic Use [Re: yageman]
    #8343157 - 04/29/08 08:49 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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A good chunk of my past, (2-3 years of serious but somewhat fequent psychedlic use and some use before and after that chunk of time) has added much spice to every thing I do.
Some things less so and some things more so.

Things it has chaneged the most:
Every thing musical/artistic
everything emotional
everything spiritual
everything lingual
everything loving
everything I care about...........actually

Most of the shit I care about fits into those categories.

Frequent use can do any number of things.
Im was never the typical party animal who cant help but to take some random psychedelic every week.

It was a 1/4th life of purity and insane things.
I cant imagine my life any different.
The frequent use for a few years were possibly the most mind shattering years I will ever experience.

To think I was able to see my own verion of relavent psychedelic mind space is kind of important to me.

What else can I say?

Oh........I know!
This shit can drive you into alien territories that you may or may not want to experience or have to deal with after the fact.

Your brain is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much smarter than you.

Im all for frequent use when such use is taken atleast somewhat seriously.

Keep yourself, and dont loose other things that are almost just as important.

Loosing your damn mind as you know it is pretty cool for any experienced psychonaut that can deal with it and doesnt become enveloped by just getting stoned, or those who actually think they can take the heat of something way far beyond their own simple ass.

Frequent psychedilic use?
It tends to get serious, and I think that is supposed to happen unless you are just short of brain dead.
Take 1000 mics of lsd once a week for 3 weeks.
Does it get better or less interesting?
Depends on the person really.
For me and my like-minded friend, it just becomes "different" and much more complex but paradoxically maybe a bit less complex visually

What is the weirdest thing frequent use has done to my mind?
It made me an alien.
I have not used psychedelics in 2.5 years and I cant say I am any less alien than right after my last trip.

These drugs can teach you really strange things.
These very real things tend to add upon the last strange set of things if you know what I mean..............

Good luck all.
There is no telling how you may interpret the ups and downs of what might be considered "frequent use".




Yageman, I have to say you are probably (In my opinion) the most interesting poster on this forum. Every post you make, I have to read in full. You remind me of something, someone, but I can't place who. It feels like someone I know well, but I'm not sure. Your describing yourself as an "alien" is very strange, because whenever I read your posts, I always think of you as somewhat alien. Perhaps the person you remind me of is myself while on psychedelics, I don't know.


I don't know why I felt the need to post that, but I've always wanted to say that to you. So there you go. Take it any way you like.


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Re: Frequent Psychedelic Use [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #8349251 - 05/01/08 01:40 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Hey guys im fairly new to this site, but wanted to throw my 2 cents in here.

Id say since mid January i have been a solid tripper every other day... give or take a few days, mid January i picked up a sheet of some pretty good LSD the guys said it was (k-swiss) but that never meant much to me... it only took me a month to go through that. I had one VERY powerful intense trip middle of feb i took about 12-14 hits of lsd and was laid out for a good day and still feeling spun a few days after. After that like someone said its as if your life gains massive amounts of momentum.

Things have improved so much for me, my appreciation for everything!

Since then i have been shrooming sometimes 3 days in a row with a few day breaks, on a bout a 1/8 of shrooms a night, luckly i have a good friend who has nice resources when it comes to these guys.

Just last night i had the best shrooming experience of my life and i cant wait to write up a trip report on it...

so i guess i was saying ive tripped probably a good 50-70 times within the past 3 months.

i always feel slightly different but i love the feeling, the deep thought my extreme passion for life now... its a beautiful thing!

cheers!


oh and on that note i plan on tripping again friday on a 1/4 assmebling a kite and going to the park laying in the grass and watching the kite fly at sunset.


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Re: Frequent Psychedelic Use [Re: Bonzaisushi]
    #8349852 - 05/01/08 03:48 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Hi,

Wow really impressive, you can really classify yourself a frequent user!
Interesting, obviously you don't build up much of a tolerance, -me neither.

I am not pushing the pedal to the metal yet, but its great to know that there are some people out there, that really blast through that Stargate...
I like that, now I don't have to feel bad any more to take shrooms every other weekend....
One question, how big of a dose do you take in you frequent shroom trips ?? Do you use them fresh or dried, how much grams on average ?


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Re: Frequent Psychedelic Use [Re: The Joker]
    #8350073 - 05/01/08 04:38 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I ate morning glory twice a day for nine months, along with weed smoking. It changed everything! I feel that it truly wiped the mental conditioning slate clean, and allowed me to start over. Due to insanely frequent dosing, the old ways that always come back after one trip never had the chance to regroup.

One night, nine months into it, the message was crystal clear that it was time to stop, and I did. In fact, I went sober (just coffee) for two years.

Before this period, I was between average and depressed all the time. Now, I'm usually the happiest guy in the room, to the point that I find myself pulling it back so as not to annoy others.

To me, the after effects of the nine month trip are stronger than the acute effects were. It opened me to learning from life itself, without much prejudgment, and made life 10000% more interesting and fulfilling. It also gave me an iron stomach, pretty much puke proof.

Frequent psychedelics are not for all, but some of us need to in order to clear things up and just to know what happens. I would never want to trip that often again, but I would never erase that part of my life, either.


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Re: Frequent Psychedelic Use [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #8350425 - 05/01/08 06:44 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I think Psychedelics stimulate creativity, which in turn can stimulate the potential for considering even more than what one is accustomed to.

It can kind of give you the reasoning skills to turn twice as many lemons into lemonade when life hands you them; it also allows you to consider that extreme sour flavours can be interesting and fulfilling.


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