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Re: Can birds trip? [Re: Ima Trooper]
    #8334462 - 04/27/08 03:10 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Dude. Birds always try to fly into windows. It doesnt necessarily mean hes tripping. Theres a bird that does something similar every afternoon at my grandparents house. Its not because hes tripping, its because he wants more birdseed. :tongue:


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Re: Can birds trip? [Re: TTT]
    #8335171 - 04/27/08 07:06 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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TTT said:
Dude. Birds always try to fly into windows. It doesnt necessarily mean hes tripping. Theres a bird that does something similar every afternoon at my grandparents house. Its not because hes tripping, its because he wants more birdseed. :tongue:




I don't know...the odds of him eating a shitload of mycelium and then randomly beating himself against my window for a week straight aren't that good. Besides, he wouldn't be wanting more birdseed, because its not nearly gone yet...so its still sitting there waiting to be eaten. :shrug:


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Re: Can birds trip? [Re: Ima Trooper]
    #8335244 - 04/27/08 07:21 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

:lol:

I would be very interested in further experiments. Im not sure what I think.


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Re: Can birds trip? [Re: daytripper23]
    #8335272 - 04/27/08 07:27 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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daytripper23 said:
:lol:

I would be very interested in further experiments. Im not sure what I think.




I'll get a blowgun that shoots psilocybin pellets STAT. If he's not tripping now, he will be soon. :laugh:


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Re: Can birds trip? [Re: Ima Trooper]
    #8336674 - 04/28/08 04:10 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Oh man, the havoc you could wreak with a thing like that...


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Re: Can birds trip? [Re: FungusMan]
    #8336730 - 04/28/08 05:25 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

That bird reminds me of a dog one of my friends had - he was a rottweiler. We were all outside discussing whether this raccoon skull we found was actually a mutated eagle that had developed teeth (long story), and when we came back inside, we found he had eaten an eighth of shrooms we had laying out. We were all pissed until he started trying to attack shadows on the wall - that was great fun for like an hour until he cowered in the corner and just sat there snapping at the shadows. Then we figured it'd be smarter to keep the shrooms up high so the dog couldn't get to them. :tongue:


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Re: Can birds trip? [Re: orange]
    #8336732 - 04/28/08 05:30 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

It's impossible to tell if a bird is "tripping" since they are non-verbal.

A pidgeon can tell however, the difference between an injection of saline and a hallucinogen. Plenty of experiments have shown this.


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Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

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Re: Can birds trip? [Re: orange]
    #8336735 - 04/28/08 05:32 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

My ex gf had left some blow on her table one time, and her cat sniffed some of the shit up. She said it just sat and stared at her dresser for like 2 hours. And when she'd lock it in her room it would pace around and claw at the door just to get back to it.


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Re: Can birds trip? [Re: Ima Trooper]
    #8336992 - 04/28/08 10:03 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

@ the topic of cats and hallucinogens, I think a good experiment would be to put a bowl of food with a small dose of whatever hallucinogen and let the cat voluntarily eat the food and trip for a while, and if the cat comes back later to eat more food, you know it likes it.


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Re: Can birds trip? [Re: Limes]
    #8337011 - 04/28/08 10:16 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Theres no guarantee the cat would make that connection, but if it did and still came back for more that wouldnt surprise me at all. Cats are really disturbed animals and they come back for more of things even if they hate it(as long as it stimulated their curiosity).
Or is it just my cat? :cat:


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Re: Can birds trip? [Re: Ima Trooper]
    #8338836 - 04/28/08 06:54 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Ima Trooper said:
Quote:

TTT said:
Dude. Birds always try to fly into windows. It doesnt necessarily mean hes tripping. Theres a bird that does something similar every afternoon at my grandparents house. Its not because hes tripping, its because he wants more birdseed. :tongue:




I don't know...the odds of him eating a shitload of mycelium and then randomly beating himself against my window for a week straight aren't that good. Besides, he wouldn't be wanting more birdseed, because its not nearly gone yet...so its still sitting there waiting to be eaten. :shrug:




I was impressed the little dude didn't fall off, he was making some pretty big super-jumps there. 

He goes to each window and flits up against it a few times, then moves on, almost as if he's testing it.  If he doesn't see the glass, it represents an invisible boundary to an animal that flies freely every day.

Birds evolved around the time that mammals did, we're sort of grown off of the same point.  Birds can be pretty dumb, but some birds are really quite intelligent in their own bird way.  It makes me wonder what he's getting at.


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To carry yourself forward and experience myriad things is delusion. That myriad things come forth and experience themselves is awakening. -Dogen Zenji


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Re: Can birds trip? [Re: toastandjam]
    #8340706 - 04/29/08 02:03 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

How much mycelium do you think he ate? I thought it didn't contain any (measurable) amount of actives...


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Re: Can birds trip? [Re: zouden]
    #8340817 - 04/29/08 02:47 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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John Smith said:
animals are not robots.....I dont care how much Descartes you've read.:crankey:

:crazy2:



I sometimes think of us as merely biomechanical machines reacting to our chemical world via biopsychological processes.


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Re: Can birds trip? [Re: zouden]
    #8340922 - 04/29/08 03:45 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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How much mycelium do you think he ate? I thought it didn't contain any (measurable) amount of actives...



i'd think that it contains enough to make a bird trip since they're a lot smaller than humans


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Re: Can birds trip? [Re: icanttype]
    #8340930 - 04/29/08 03:52 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I just thought it didn't contain any. But maybe it's just enough, I guess...


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                                                part of the world belongs to me
You know... I'm not a blind man
                                                    but truth is the hardest thing to see


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Re: Can birds trip? [Re: biggysmall]
    #8340965 - 04/29/08 04:57 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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biggysmall said:
I think it is torture giving an animal like a cat a hallucinogen. They don't know there going to be dosed, and they don't have the brain power to escape a bad trip.



i would think that the fact their brains are much simpler than ours would mean they were less likely to have a bad trip, since a bad trip is only in your mind, anyways it wouldn't do any lasting damage


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Re: Can birds trip? [Re: doitagain]
    #8341052 - 04/29/08 06:42 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I think there idea of fear would change, maybe a bad trip for a bird would be its wing falling off, or some animal chasing it. Not something we would find scary, but a little bird would probably freak the fuck out.


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Re: Can birds trip? [Re: biggysmall]
    #8341222 - 04/29/08 08:52 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

oh *tweet* fuck man *tweet* my wing wing fell off n im still *tweet*flying *tweet* WTF?*tweet*


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Re: Can birds trip? [Re: learysprotoge]
    #8342337 - 04/29/08 03:01 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

hold on hold on

I...can...WALK!!!

*vRRooom*_____

(pancake bird)

actually saw that once on my way to school once lol i was looking out the window at a morning dove in all its morning glory the sun shining down on it as i was on a overpeass then well complete disentegration from a 60mph whip!! the only parts left were the red stringy and chunky stuff that flew threw the air:eek:


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