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Rye grain holds 50%moisture with ease...what about after a dunk?

#8328400 - 04/25/08 08:20 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

We hydrate rye to 50 percent water no prob right? I am really pushing towards just using grains to fruit from. I was wondering how well a pure rye substrate performed at resaturation via dunking. Ive read that straight grain substrates make an virtual mycelial brick that is kinda hard to rehydrate. Any takes?

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Re: Rye grain holds 50%moisture with ease...what about after a dunk?

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#8329544 - 04/26/08 05:05 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I used pure rye once and will never do again. Got a few but should have got lb's

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Re: Rye grain holds 50%moisture with ease...what about after a dunk?

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#8329632 - 04/26/08 06:51 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Just keep your humidity high and don't worry about re-hydrating. Rye works great. Done right you can't get any better yields.

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Re: Rye grain holds 50%moisture with ease...what about after a dunk?

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#8329739 - 04/26/08 07:35 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Plain rye by itself will fruit poorly, if at all. Read up on casing.
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Re: Rye grain holds 50%moisture with ease...what about after a dunk?

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#8329859 - 04/26/08 09:03 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

RR is right, it definitely needs to be cased. I figured that you knew that.

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Re: Rye grain holds 50%moisture with ease...what about after a dunk?

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#8337913 - 04/28/08 03:03 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I guess this is my fault for not being more specific. I would never fruit from a anything without a casing. Thanks for speaking up though!

For the main body of substrate I will have a mixture of 2lb dry rye and 1.5 cups of rye. I calculated that the amount of verm I add will hold half of the water needed for 100BE total crop wise. Straight verm for casing.

This is all going down inside a gallon jar. Should come to about half full. I'm contemplating whether or not I will have a prob getting it to colonize in the jar. 10ml of mycelium water to 2lb dry rye should be fine.

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#8341862 - 04/29/08 12:24 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

bump, RR comes nd goes dont he :wink:

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Re: Rye grain holds 50%moisture with ease...what about after a dunk?

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#8342020 - 04/29/08 01:05 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I'm still not too clear on what you are asking. Hopefully someone with more experience comes on.

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Plain rye by itself will fruit poorly, if at all. Read up on casing.
RR

unless you are me. :laugh:

It's possible to fruit a solid rye cake (like the top one here). But generally speaking RR is correct. The bottom one is a straight WBS cake. Both of the cakes were dunked and rolled without any problem. They did absorb an unmeasured amount of water.

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