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food dehydrator
    #834159 - 08/21/02 07:41 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

are there any types of food dehydrators that are particularly bad for drying shrooms?

Is there any noticeable loss of potency due to drying in a food dehydrator?

I am looking into getting one on ebay.com




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Re: food dehydrator [Re: I_Stain_Blue]
    #834204 - 08/21/02 08:01 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Yes. Heat breaks down psilos
Look for a no-heat dehydrator. If you happen to get a dehydrator with an adjustable temperature setting that you can switch to 0 heat, you're golden. If not you can always cut power to the heating element so that it's air-circulation only.

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Re: food dehydrator [Re: I_Stain_Blue]
    #834215 - 08/21/02 08:05 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

do you know if ronco dehydrators use heat??

often ebay auctions descriptions dont include all the specs of the item


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Re: food dehydrator [Re: I_Stain_Blue]
    #834222 - 08/21/02 08:07 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I'm sure ronco's use heat


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Re: food dehydrator [Re: I_Stain_Blue]
    #834225 - 08/21/02 08:08 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

it seems like any dehydrator that doesnt use heat would be like using a fan in a closed container


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Re: food dehydrator [Re: I_Stain_Blue]
    #834231 - 08/21/02 08:11 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

you can use the dehydrator racks and set the shrooms on them put the racks up on something a shelf exc...
works good takes about 5 days to dry or so i'm told...


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Re: food dehydrator [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #834236 - 08/21/02 08:14 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Depends on rh in the room. ?My rh is 32% and I've been drying 'em cracker dry in 48 hours just laying them out on a plate and turning them over at 24 hours.

A/C is awesome!


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Re: food dehydrator [Re: TM]
    #834239 - 08/21/02 08:16 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: food dehydrator [Re: I_Stain_Blue]
    #834243 - 08/21/02 08:19 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I pre-dry for about 12 hrs. with a Mr. Coffee dehydrator that has the heating element removed. I then place them in the desiccant chamber for about another day. Works great!
Removing the element was easy squeezy also.


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Re: food dehydrator [Re: I_Stain_Blue]
    #834253 - 08/21/02 08:22 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

well the humidity here in lousyana is like 80-90% all the time!!

it sucks, my shrooms start to rot if i dont dry them fast enough


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Re: food dehydrator [Re: I_Stain_Blue]
    #834273 - 08/21/02 08:27 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Is your house air conditioned? If so the humidity is probably not that high inside


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Re: food dehydrator [Re: marathonman]
    #834283 - 08/21/02 08:31 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

yea it's air conditioned -- i got a lot of stinky shrooms though...


i tried to go buy screen at home depot today to use with damp rid, but they only sold screen in _huge_ rolls



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Re: food dehydrator [Re: I_Stain_Blue]
    #834294 - 08/21/02 08:35 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I just place several layers of paper towels between the shrooms and the desiccant. Works fine for me. I don"t (think I) have any problems that way.


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Re: food dehydrator [Re: marathonman]
    #834313 - 08/21/02 08:42 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

wow, that really works? how long does it take?


you put dessicant into the bottom of a container, then paper towels, then shrooms, and put the lid on the container and wait?


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Re: food dehydrator [Re: I_Stain_Blue]
    #834314 - 08/21/02 08:43 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

At Walmart I found something that would make for a great dessicating chamber. Near the microwave section was a " 'MiracleWARE' Quick & Easy 3 Piece Defroster & Storage Set ". Basically, it's a piecrust shaped bowl with a thick plastic grill that's raised up off the bottom (for putting silica gel, or what have you, underneath), and a clear lid. It's intended to be used in the microwave for defrosting meats and steaming veggies and is large enough to hold a paper plate. Fairly decent size for small jobs, I believe.

There are two holes in the lid for ventilation but tape takes care of that, making it relatively airtight. A rubber ring around the lid might improve the plastic-on-plastic seal.

The price on it was $4.82

Also, Walmart carries a 10 lb bag of crystalline silica under the brandname "Oil Dri" for $1.97!
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Re: food dehydrator [Re: I_Stain_Blue]
    #834343 - 08/21/02 08:56 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Works fine for me. Some people are paranoid about the desiccant supposedly "leeching" into the shrooms this way or by placing them directly on desiccant. Mine are absolutely fine this way (paper towels, about 4 layers).
It only takes about a day after pre-drying in the cold dehydrator.
just dont be shaking up the container spreading the dust around. That is the only way see to have problems


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Re: food dehydrator [Re: marathonman]
    #834353 - 08/21/02 08:59 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

do you think the tiny pebbles of calcium chloride that comes in damp rid containers is a good dessicant? it's not dust...more like big grains of white sand or something


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Re: food dehydrator [Re: I_Stain_Blue]
    #834382 - 08/21/02 09:09 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

It works fine, but is overpriced in my opinion. I use Dri-rite (I think). It is calcium chloride also and only costs sa couple of bucks.emember moisture will eventually collect in the bottom of the container and will need to be drained off with Damp Rid The Dri-Rite tends to turn powdery with repeated uses, in my limited experience .


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Re: food dehydrator [Re: marathonman]
    #834395 - 08/21/02 09:13 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

where do you get dri-rite?


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Re: food dehydrator [Re: I_Stain_Blue]
    #834406 - 08/21/02 09:15 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Local Hardware store.


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Re: food dehydrator [Re: I_Stain_Blue]
    #834537 - 08/21/02 10:04 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

well, i am bidding on a nice looking EXCALIBUR dehydrator on ebay -- it has adjustable temp setting from 85 degrees to 145 degrees...
so i figure itll work nice if i use 85 degrees?


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Re: food dehydrator [Re: I_Stain_Blue]
    #834609 - 08/21/02 10:58 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

If you're going to use it exclusively for shrooms, I'd go ahead and take it apart (carefully) and disconnect the heating element. It is the thing that has the metal coils and a couple of wires coming off it. I was able to take mine apart with a screwdriver. I just completely removed mine.


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Re: food dehydrator [Re: marathonman]
    #834613 - 08/21/02 11:00 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

you think 85 degrees is still too much heat?



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Re: food dehydrator [Re: I_Stain_Blue]
    #834630 - 08/21/02 11:12 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

It's just that cooler is better
So if your room temp is lower than 85 degrees, it may be advantageous to do it.
On the other hand, it's not like 85 degrees is going to TOTALLY fuck up the shrooms. I really can't say because I never tried.


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Re: food dehydrator [Re: marathonman]
    #834631 - 08/21/02 11:14 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

yea, i see.

thanks for your help, guy


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Re: food dehydrator [Re: marathonman]
    #834779 - 08/22/02 01:17 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

In reply to:

On the other hand, it's not like 85 degrees is going to TOTALLY fuck up the shrooms. I really can't say because I never tried.




Well.... I have!
I use a food dehydrator and 85 to 95 degrees isn't going to mess up your shrooms.
In fact it will dry them out faster....cracker dry in less than a day.
There is no noticible loss in potentcy.

Don't buy a Ronco food dehydrator......they are crap!

Buy an American Harvest Snackmaster.....they work great.
You can pick them up in 2nd hand stores for hardly anything.
They cost $69.00 brand new.
I get them for $3.99 to $6.99 in the 2nd hand stores.....and they are like new.
I have 3 of them.....and I always look for more.

You might find some on Ebay.....but they get sniped at the last minute usually.

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Re: food dehydrator [Re: I_Stain_Blue]
    #835017 - 08/22/02 06:03 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I used a food dehydrator with a small heating element at the bottom of it. I got mine at a thrift store for 8 bux and I drilled holes in the side of the trays (about 10 holes each) to let fresh cool air in as well.

I did not disconnect the heating element, because I could have made screens and put them in front of a fan for less money. I left the mushies in there for about 6-8 hours and then finish drying them over a dessicant. The loss of potentcy seemed negligible.

Before I got the dehydrator, I used a fan and the dessicant and did a 2g trip that was a level 3+. Then I dried the rest on the dehydrator and dessicant and had a party with everyone having a 2g trip and I was easily at a 3+ again. Everyone had a good time.

Make your own call, but if you are going to disconnect the heating element why buy a dehydrator, make screen trays to stack on top of one another and use a fan that you probably already have.

Good luck

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Re: food dehydrator [Re: I_Stain_Blue]
    #835454 - 08/22/02 09:41 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

No... 85 even 100 degrees should not have any real effect on the potency. Psilocin and psilocybin don't even break down at those temperatures. I am not sure why people insist that slightly elevated temperatures will cause any noticeable loss. If anything the only way to preserve 100% potency is to freeze dry them in an oxygen free environment.
Psilocin (melting point 103-104 degrees centigrade) is relatively unstable in air, but psilocybin is much more resistant to degradation due to it being phosphorylated.
either way i say get that dehydrator.
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Re: food dehydrator [Re: Alkaloids]
    #835578 - 08/22/02 11:07 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I agree 100%. It's a myth. Anyone who makes tea knows that it takes more heat than a dehydrator will produce to destroy the active chemicals.


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Re: food dehydrator [Re: mickey_rourke]
    #835894 - 08/22/02 01:38 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

thats a huge relief!!
im going to get the cheapest dehydrator around


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Re: food dehydrator [Re: I_Stain_Blue]
    #836058 - 08/22/02 02:41 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I bought a sunbeam dehydrator and did a test dry with it (it has a heating element) and I thought there was some loss of potency. I put a thermometer in it and tested the temp inside, 130?F. WAYYY TOO HOT! 85-90? might be fine but be careful, some dehydrators are damn hot. I disconnected the element and BOOM! Be careful, unless you know what your doing, you could be in for a SHOCK! Anyway, I got it happenin ok now, no heat just fan drying bliss.
BTW, can anyone recommend a good dessicant down under and tell me where to get it?


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Re: food dehydrator [Re: MushyMay]
    #836257 - 08/22/02 04:00 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

You DID unplug it before trying to disconnect the heating element? Right.


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