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 pf tek brown rice flour and verm 
#8338943 - 04/28/08 07:15 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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OK im going to start my first grow soon. I have been doing major reading over the past couple of weeks and I also have been reading thee guides, for example pf tek for simple minds,.Is the information for the mixture true ?
If I had 6 1/2 pint jars how much verm n brown rice flour would i need for this mixture?. I will have maybe 2 syringes so i can add more to each jar for faster growth maybe.
Ill have a 10 gallon aquarium with a mixture of perlite and just a lil bit of verm mixed in to keep it moist.
Ill probly be working with F+ i am hearing its ok for a starter.any helpful tips??? thanks
Also I lookd at my local walmart target n couldnt find vermaculite? maybe lowes have it.Any vendors online have these ?
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6 JARS
VERM - 3 Cups
BRF - 1 1/2 Cups
H2O - 1 1/2 Cups
i think thats correct..
and im pretty sure putting more spores in the jar wont necessarily make it grow faster...
the mix, moisture content, & temp, have a big impact on how well your mycelium grows
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 Re: pf tek brown rice flour and verm [Re: mephist00]
#8339005 - 04/28/08 07:28 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Really ok Thanks alot ! Thanks for the mix...
Ang good strains and where would be a good thing 2 ! Easy for a newb.
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Re: pf tek brown rice flour and verm [Re: mephist00]
#8339007 - 04/28/08 07:32 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Really ok Thanks alot ! Thanks for the mix...
Ang good strains and where would be a good thing 2 ! Easy for a newb.
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I had a problem with getting the moisture right and someone suggested to mix the water and Vermiculite first. Then mix the BRF. I use 3/4 cup vermiculite with 1/4 cup water and 1/4 cup BRF. AS for how many cc's, I would say 1/4 to 1/2cc per hole, if you have 4 holes. More is not better because you only need two spores to start mycelium and if you use too many cc's you will have too much moisture. Once the mycelium starts to grow, it will take off and you will see more moisture in the jars.
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Re: pf tek brown rice flour and verm [Re: hottamali] 1
#8339764 - 04/28/08 10:10 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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The basic recipe is one part brf, one part water, and two parts verm. If you make each part one cup, the above will fill five 1/2 pint jars. Search 'pf tek' on youtube for 'let's grow mushrooms' and watch all four parts before beginning.
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Re: pf tek brown rice flour and verm [Re: RogerRabbit]
#8339784 - 04/28/08 10:16 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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"Let's Grow Mushrooms" is priceless.
Follow that video like gospel.
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 Re: pf tek brown rice flour and verm [Re: hottamali]
#8341198 - 04/29/08 08:38 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thanks.This is all new to me and from some of the information i have read is misleading. Thank you all for helping me out.
Im still deciding if i want the amazons, cambodians or golden teachers or F+.. Im leaning on the cambodians and amazons.
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will penis envy's grow on brf cakes please let me know I'm a noob
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Re: pf tek brown rice flour and verm [Re: Brainiac]
#8351654 - 05/01/08 09:53 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Just ordered some B+ cant wait..So excited ! Any tips for a newb ? This is my first time with the pf tek.Thank you everybody who has thrown n their 2 cents. Hope after all the rights step Ill start a grow log.Ttyl peace Stay smokin in peace !!!
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yeah.. they will but.. I would suggest a noob start with something that is more likely to get them spores to repeat the cycle, and just over all a more noob friendly strain
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Basic pf tek and pf for simple minds is true. Should be followed without much inspiraton or deviation. Stick to the formula and you'll get modest results. Modesty is good for a greenhorn.
Home depot here in florida sells huge ass bags of verm, shit is up to my waist.
I would personally get three syringes, even with the worst luck, all three can't go bad. do 12 jars initially, with a modest 2cc's per jar, half a cc into each of four holes. Thats enough spore solution that you can do 12 jars, of three diffrent types, and still have a little of each left to invest into a liquid culture project while your noob ass is itching because your impatient for your jars to grow, so instead of spending your time looking at them all the time and slowing them down by exposing them to light, you'll be spending your time learning how to make an liquid culture. If that works out, then you'll have plenty of culture to inject the next 100 jars I'm sure you'll want to make once your trippin on your first batch.
more than 2cc's total spore solution per jar and anymore isnt going to make much of a difference, speed for these things are finite, better off having a way to get these incubating in a 84 degree space to get them colonizing as fast as possible.
Adding verm to perlite is a bad idea, verm holds in moisture, perlite wicks it away. Getting you a coolmist modded to feed into that aquarium would be way better though, and will give you another thing to keep you busy working on while your impatiently waiting for you jars to grow. Having stuff to do, rather that disturbing your jars is good.
Don't quote me on this, but the medium sized 3 something dollar bag of brown rice should be enough for 12 jars. I bought mahatma brand before I upgraded to 40lb bags at the chines food store.. I know guys.. I'm a grainaphobie buying that much rice but, you'll be happy to hear ive moved on.
NEhow,
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When i was in boarding school I made my first attempt at growing shrooms that failed horribly. I did pf tek, but when i was making the mix, I felt how it was moist and not wet.. I was like OMG this isnt wet enought, mushroomslike water and rain! so i added tons of water to make it sloppy wet, like WATERY wet, and cooked it up. Its funny when i look back on it cause i was totally dumbfounded when nothing grew. It wasn't till years later I figured out my mistake on the internet when my interest in cultivation returned.
Moral of the story? FOLLOW THE FUCKING DIRECTIONS VERBATIM, KEEP YOUR IMPROVISATIONS TO A MINIMUM AND AT THE VERY LEAST UNDER WATCHFUL EYES OF THOSE WHO KNOW.
Thank god for the shroomery right?
Amen.
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Tips, yes. I have one.
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Re: pf tek brown rice flour and verm [Re: scyrusurcys]
#8353349 - 05/02/08 11:25 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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lololol Thanks alot you guys. Ill buy a couple more syringes. Maybe Ill hit costa rica or golden teachers. I already ordered B+.
I still have to buy 1/2 pint jars. Lol
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Quote:
spearingflame03 said:
OK im going to start my first grow soon. I have been doing major reading over the past couple of weeks and I also have been reading thee guides, for example pf tek for simple minds,.Is the information for the mixture true ?
There are several PF tek recipes.
First there is the "original" PF tek recipe, then there is the "maximum fruiting formula".
Then there is the "PF tek for simple minds" recipe which doesn't directly specify the amount of water, but tells you to put in as much water as the vermiculite will hold.
Since I wrote the PF tek for simple minds I will of course tell you to go this route, since it guarantees the correct moisture of the cakes, which for the newbie otherwise isn't the easiest thing to judge.
http://www.fungifun.org/English/Pftek
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Re: pf tek brown rice flour and verm [Re: Anno]
#8353558 - 05/02/08 12:12 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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You so rock. Thanks I waasnt really sure on the mixtures.And out of nowhere you came and showed me the light ! lol
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I just went out to lowes. I have the fine grade vermiculite. Is the mixture still the same. I know not to pack it..
6 JARS
VERM - 3 Cups
BRF - 1 1/2 Cups
H2O - 1 1/2 Cups
Is this still correct for 1/2 pint jars.With fne verm ? It would be helpful.Thanks !
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yep, thats from pf tek - Simple Cubensis Growing Technique
you will have a little mix left over
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Re: pf tek brown rice flour and verm [Re: mephist00]
#8355366 - 05/02/08 08:08 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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are penis envys a good one for noobs if not what is because i already have those spores
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okay i have another question my dog chewed a hole in my perilite bag my friend said i could bake it like verm to kill contaminates is that true and how would i do that thanks for your guys help
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well, perlite has a very high melting point, so that would probably work if your worried about it.
if i were to do it, id just go buy some more, its extremely cheap, my bag was like $2 :P
or PC it, or steam sterilize in tempered glass bowl maybe..?
ehh naww, id just go buy more, very cheap.
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Quote:
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are penis envys a good one for noobs if not what is because i already have those spores
It's been stated before and I think the same goes here, a cubes a cubes a cubes.
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Um why would you be posting that ? in my Log? Has nothing to do with it...I shouldnt even waste my time.
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Almost everything ready now just waiting for my b+ n the mail.taking precautions to make everything sterile.Good luck to me right....
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my perlite cost 2.97 verm 3 somethin.
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Re: pf tek brown rice flour and verm [Re: RogerRabbit]
#8356556 - 05/03/08 02:01 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
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The basic recipe is one part brf, one part water, and two parts verm. If you make each part one cup, the above will fill five 1/2 pint jars. Search 'pf tek' on youtube for 'let's grow mushrooms' and watch all four parts before beginning.
RR
Yeah, The Let's grow mushrooms is an excellent series of vids to help the newbie... I owe all my successes to it -all my failures are my own damn fault 
Seriously, watch the videos, it will clearly exhibit an easy method for getting started.
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Quote:
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Um why would you be posting that ? in my Log? Has nothing to do with it...I shouldnt even waste my time.
Sorry dick, didn't read the OP, I was just answering a question that I saw had been posted IN YOUR log.
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i pressure cook mine and reuse it all the time
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okay i have another question my dog chewed a hole in my perilite bag my friend said i could bake it like verm to kill contaminates is that true and how would i do that thanks for your guys help
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Re: pf tek brown rice flour and verm [Re: smokedout420]
#8358036 - 05/03/08 03:05 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ignorance is bliss although I did save 15% or more on car insurance by switching to geico. Just got my 1/2 pint jars verm n perlite n brown flour just waiting for B+ and costa rica in the mail...Not you tpihkal.Ahhh fuck it I aint here to make enemies.
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No prob dude, good luck on the grow, can't wait to see how it goes.
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Re: pf tek brown rice flour and verm [Re: tpihkal]
#8358055 - 05/03/08 03:10 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Where are your spores coming from?
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Re: pf tek brown rice flour and verm [Re: tpihkal]
#8358617 - 05/03/08 06:20 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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okay I have horticultoral grade verm and perilite will both those work
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yes, you should start your own thread though buddy, stop stealing someone else's. You're losing respect point by doing that.
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Re: pf tek brown rice flour and verm [Re: tpihkal]
#8358683 - 05/03/08 06:43 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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okay how do i do that im a noob to this site i just want help
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Well, before you starting making dozens of threads that have already been made, do a search for any questions you have.
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Re: pf tek brown rice flour and verm [Re: scyrusurcys]
#8362607 - 05/04/08 07:49 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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NO worries here either...I just got my browm rice flour,1.95 puond just waiting for the spores. Sporeworks and hawks eye but i didnt get a confirmation when i bought from hawks eye ??
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You mean confirmation that your order went through? Either way both are sponsors and good connections so I can't wait to see how things go. I'm rooting for you!
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Re: pf tek brown rice flour and verm [Re: tpihkal]
#8362736 - 05/04/08 08:15 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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yea.on sporeworks i got a email bt not from hawks eye.well ill let you know.
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do I need brown rice flour or can i just grind up brown rice and I ordered some from hawks and they were here in less than a week
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yeah just grind that shit up, I prefer to get flour from the store but either way it's the same thing.
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Re: pf tek brown rice flour and verm [Re: tpihkal]
#8363153 - 05/04/08 09:51 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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well I've been to all the grocery stores and asked and none of them carry the flour whats it used for where should i look
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A lot to grocery stores carry it but many of their employees don't know it, it's not a commenly asked question you know? Just look for the area in the store where they carry lots of little bags of different types of flour. Not every grocery carries BRF, but I'm sure you can find it if you look.
The bags I get look like this, and they have a whole section devoted to them. The brand may differ, and this is almost empty, but I bet you could find them.
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Re: pf tek brown rice flour and verm [Re: tpihkal]
#8363212 - 05/04/08 10:06 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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look in the organic.. natural food sections..
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Re: pf tek brown rice flour and verm [Re: mephist00]
#8363221 - 05/04/08 10:08 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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look in the organic.. natural food sections..
fo sho, they have them, you just have to really look.
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Also I was informed about this, tell sporeworks you are a member of the shroomery and they hook you up. When you finalize the order just type it in the comments box, they hooked me and my buddy up with another syringe free of cost.
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Re: pf tek brown rice flour and verm [Re: ryon40]
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Re: pf tek brown rice flour and verm [Re: Brainiac]
#8363788 - 05/05/08 01:05 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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There he is Brainiac was the one that informed me. Thanks again greatly appreciated.
(not trying to tread on your thread spearingflame03)
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Re: pf tek brown rice flour and verm [Re: ryon40]
#8364117 - 05/05/08 06:39 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Dude I dont care what ever keeps it alive.no prob here. I found ,y brf in a organic shop near my place.already grinded
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its prolly to layte to tell sporeworks im a member huh ? Ah rats
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i just got a pressure cooker .how long should i do this for ? thanks just tryn to keep this alive
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15 Psi for one hour.
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Re: pf tek brown rice flour and verm [Re: tpihkal]
#8368020 - 05/06/08 07:36 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Just got a email for hawk eyes,order shipd out 2day for b+. Shweet
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There you go good luck man!
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Re: pf tek brown rice flour and verm [Re: ryon40]
#8368814 - 05/06/08 01:20 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i kno ryt I dnt know rather to start and sterilize my jars n mix and let them cool in my cantainer and wait. prolly do them tomarrow .Hmmmmmmm
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