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Re: The War on Terror Is Not a Crime [Re: satyr]
    #8332076 - 04/26/08 08:24 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

It's idiotic to say that we are trying to kill every person in Iraq. If we were trying to do that, we would have many more people dead.

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America is becoming a fascist dictatorship




I'm going to need to see some evidence for this. Simply saying so doesn't make it true.

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Re: The War on Terror Is Not a Crime [Re: Redstorm]
    #8332359 - 04/26/08 09:45 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Evidence? All you have to do is pay attention, look around, glance at the laws that are being passed, the freedoms that are being stripped away at increasing speed. Are you aware that Bush recently passed a bill that gives him power to declare martial law and suspend the constitution INDEFINITELY if any national state of emergency were to occur? Do you know what this implies? What about the North American Union? Once this goes into effect, there will be NO MORE United States. Research, Read, Get informed. All of this info is on the net


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Re: The War on Terror Is Not a Crime [Re: satyr]
    #8332422 - 04/26/08 09:57 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

What freedoms have been taken from you that you had before?

Which law would that be which would give him martial law?

Also, there is no real reliable information which shows that the North American Union is anything more than a pipe dream.

You're talking to the wrong guy if you're telling me to get educated in political or public affairs, by the way. Just because I don't believe your lunacy doesn't mean I don't know far more than you on the subject.

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Re: The War on Terror Is Not a Crime [Re: satyr]
    #8332425 - 04/26/08 09:58 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

And should I mention the prison camps in the US? Just what the fuck are these for anyway?
http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2004/FEMA-Concentration-Camps3sep04.htm


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Re: The War on Terror Is Not a Crime [Re: satyr]
    #8332435 - 04/26/08 10:00 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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satyr said:
And should I mention the prison camps in the US? Just what the fuck are these for anyway?
http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2004/FEMA-Concentration-Camps3sep04.htm




That link cites no sources.

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Re: The War on Terror Is Not a Crime [Re: Redstorm]
    #8332480 - 04/26/08 10:10 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I have seen these fucking camps with my own eyes, there is tons of footage of them even on youtube.There is one not far from where I live. Even if you dont believe that the Executive orders exist,the presence of these camps, completely fitted with INWARD facing razor wire fencing and new gas furnaces, cannot be denied. And as for sources, look them up, they can be found everywhere. I would be here all night citing sources for all this info, I have researching it for a long time, and despite how crazy it seems, it cannot be denied; the proof is everywhere.


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Re: The War on Terror Is Not a Crime [Re: satyr]
    #8332493 - 04/26/08 10:13 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)


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Re: The War on Terror Is Not a Crime [Re: satyr]
    #8332506 - 04/26/08 10:16 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I don't deny they exist; their purpose is what is of contention.

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Re: The War on Terror Is Not a Crime [Re: Redstorm]
    #8332523 - 04/26/08 10:22 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

So what would you suggest their purpose be? No matter how you look at it, there is no wholesome benevolent reason behind their existence. There is nothing to justify the existence for such a place


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Re: The War on Terror Is Not a Crime [Re: satyr]
    #8332531 - 04/26/08 10:23 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

They could either serve the purpose you state or they could serve something such as a quarantine.

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Re: The War on Terror Is Not a Crime [Re: Redstorm]
    #8332551 - 04/26/08 10:29 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Either way, none is a good reason. Quarantine could be a possibility, but if its true, its too convenient. The fact that things are fully staffed and ready to go is a fairly telling sign that something is not right, and we are not informed about something that is going on. If it is quarantine, you can bet your ass that there WILL be need for quarantine. Either they know of something that will happen, or they will make it happen.


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Re: The War on Terror Is Not a Crime [Re: satyr]
    #8332570 - 04/26/08 10:38 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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What freedoms have been taken from you that you had before?

Which law would that be which would give him martial law?




Answer, please.


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Re: The War on Terror Is Not a Crime [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #8332603 - 04/26/08 10:49 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Executive order 12919


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Re: The War on Terror Is Not a Crime [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #8332612 - 04/26/08 10:53 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

And as for freedoms being lost, i am referring to the domestic surveillance that bush has implemented. The imposing of the Real ID act, which are fitted with RFID chips that would reveal our locations at anytime to a central computer somewhere. I dont know about you, but that makes me a little uncomfortable


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Re: The War on Terror Is Not a Crime [Re: satyr]
    #8332619 - 04/26/08 10:54 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Did you happen to see the name at the bottom of the XO that you describe as being "recently passed by Bush"?

1) Congress doesn't "pass" executive orders. Thats why their called "Executive".

2) That executive order is almost 15 years old.

3) And was made by Bill Clinton.

That's three mistakes in one sentence.

And we should take you seriously?


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Re: The War on Terror Is Not a Crime [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #8332634 - 04/26/08 11:01 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Despite the details, the executive orders are still there. Does it make a fuck who made them? They are still in place and can and will be used at any time. Its funny how people worship their governments and refuse to believe that they could never do them harm. Go back to sleep america, big brother will take care of you. This is why you have chemtrails in your skies, fluoride in your water, and pesticides in your food. Its all for your benefit.


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Re: The War on Terror Is Not a Crime [Re: satyr]
    #8332660 - 04/26/08 11:08 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Okay, I'm done with you.

If you gleefully admit that the things you say are true are in fact NOT TRUE, but that such findings have no bearing at all on the conversation...

Any further discussion is pointless.

If you care to discuss factual things, ones that are actually TRUE, we can continue this another time...


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He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus

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Re: The War on Terror Is Not a Crime [Re: satyr]
    #8332666 - 04/26/08 11:09 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Real ID hasn't been accepted by the states yet.

Also, it must be noted that the idea of chemtrails is one of the most ridiculous conspiracies I have ever heard. It's on par with reptilians.

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Re: The War on Terror Is Not a Crime [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #8332667 - 04/26/08 11:10 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Better yet, Im way to blitzed to explain anything further. Why dont you just take an hour and 39min of your time and watch this documentary. it explains everything in detail much better than i could. Believe it or not, its your choice, just use your brain and think for yourself. http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=endgame&sitesearch=


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Re: The War on Terror Is Not a Crime [Re: Redstorm]
    #8332669 - 04/26/08 11:10 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Maybe he'll post that "Chemtrail Proof" photo some moron posted the other day...


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