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OfflineTheBulb2005
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Anxiety/Panic Disorder
    #8322801 - 04/24/08 11:29 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Shortly after my conclusion to a couple years of drug addiction, my anxiety/panic disorder surfaced. Apparently, this disorder is in my family, as both my mom and her brother had it in their teens. They both got over it eventually, but I still am in the midst of it. My anxiety is related to how I feel physically, as I get scared when I feel my health is being threatened. It was very bad a year ago, but now I have it under a lot of control.

My question to anyone who would be knowledgeable about this is, will I ever be able to consume mushrooms again? I feel like if I took them now, I'd have a huge panic attack that would send me to the hospital.

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Re: Anxiety/Panic Disorder [Re: TheBulb2005]
    #8322819 - 04/24/08 11:32 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Mushrooms/LSA helped me get over anxiety/panic attacks brought on by marijuana. This is not to say it's recommendable, because there IS a chance that tripping could make your problems worse, but it is definitely possible. What drug were you addicted to that caused the anxiety disorder to surface?


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    #8322880 - 04/24/08 11:53 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Anxiety/Panic Disorder [Re: ManInTheCorner]
    #8323053 - 04/24/08 12:56 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I would say the anxiety surfaced after abundant stimulant abuse, (cocaine and amphetamines), but overall I believe it was bound to happen since it's in my family but the drugs just precipitated it. I still avoid stimulating drugs like caffeine.

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Re: Anxiety/Panic Disorder [Re: TheBulb2005]
    #8323067 - 04/24/08 12:59 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

drink kava, helps loads with anxiety
and doesnt fuck u up when u stop either


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Re: Anxiety/Panic Disorder [Re: Coaster]
    #8323078 - 04/24/08 01:03 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I've tried Kava, but I'm not so interested in trying to treat the anxiety disorder. Rather I want to see if other people have had really bad anxiety/panic disorders and have been able to overcome it and shroom again.

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Re: Anxiety/Panic Disorder [Re: TheBulb2005]
    #8323085 - 04/24/08 01:08 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

That's a decision that's ultimately got to be made by you, and if you ask for advice, don't take it as an absolute...just take it into consideration.

I think it might be good for you, but we've gotta think about set/setting.

The set is what's in your brain, your schema, your filter, your formative experiences.

The setting is where you are, who you're with, your environment as a whole. Take for, example, a "normal" day. You work at a store. They play nice music, it's comfortable, but there's this annoying girl co-worker. No biggie, everything else is cool. Or vice versa, shitty conditions, but cool people. Well, certain substances kind of work with these environmental things. Your physical and social environment should be very comfortable. Good friends, no negative assholes. Cool tunes maybe. Good smelly stuff. Mood lighting. A few different "micro-environments" to drift around (yard, garage, living room, basement, bedroom, for example) so if you feel "stuck" then you just bug out and 10 seconds later you're somewhere else.

The cool place with the annoying individual would be bad for tripping. As would the bad place with cool people. These things get amplified.

So, you've told yourself "this might be pleasant, might be uncomfortable, but it's something positive that I want to do. If it gets weird, well, it will go away. No big deal." You've gotten some fun folks and spent a bit of time to spruce things up in the space. Maybe consider nature!!! Already a good setting, just build a fire and maybe bring something fun to play with, good to go.

At that point, it's all about you.

If I were you, I'd not go into it looking to party hard, but more for exploration. But remember, part of the thing about exploring the unknown is that it can get a bit, well, not scary, but like walking the woods at night with no flashlight. It perks you up and makes you feel alive, that's why Indiana Jones loves his job.


For more information, maybe,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychedelic_psychotherapy

Also, you might want to take a peek at "If you meet the buddha on the road, kill him" and other similar books. Maybe just googling around that sort of subject will turn you on to something interesting.

good luck!

OH...in closing, I think this should be more about overcoming your problems than shrooming with/despite/along side your problems. Use the key to unlock what needs to be unlocked, and let things work as a whole.


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Re: Anxiety/Panic Disorder [Re: abica]
    #8323089 - 04/24/08 01:09 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

well my homie got over his anxiety thru a heavy shroom trip, he said it was super horrifying but it allowed him to overcum his troubles


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Re: Anxiety/Panic Disorder [Re: Coaster]
    #8323182 - 04/24/08 01:41 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I tripped recently after taking a break from all drugs other than alcohol and caffeine.  Smoking pot the last few times put me into a pretty heavy set of panic attacks that carried over into my sober state.  It seems like you and I have had similar experiences just from different drugs and circumstances. 

If you want to trip again you are going to have to make sure you are as comfortable as possible, but I'm sure you already knew this.  The other thing I would say is start small and then see how that goes.  Last I tripped I was concerned about anxiety and it came during the coming up of the trip.  It was actually the exact same kind of anxiety that comes to me when I smoke too much pot.  Fortunately I was able to shove these thoughts out with a few deep breaths a lot easier than I do when smoking pot. 

But this is my experience and it won't be the same as yours.  The other thing you need to keep in mind is I had a safety net with some Xanax.  I've always looked down on people that have Xanax on hand because I feel like it's cheating for some reason (yes I know I'm contradicting myself).  Perhaps if you do decide to trip again you could ask your doctor for a few Xanax just for your anxiety condition.  That's what was given to me and I've yet to use a single one on my trip or in any other situation.. but it's nice to know they're there. 

Hope this helped you out and I wish you the best in overcoming your anxiety :grin:


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Re: Anxiety/Panic Disorder [Re: ManInTheCorner]
    #8323385 - 04/24/08 02:52 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Nope, although the shroom trip itself was fairly difficult, I didn't have an anxiety attack with 'em. Shrooms have also helped cure a residual anxiety that was left in place after a traumatic LSAhuasca experience, heh.

Psychedelic psychotherapy FTW.


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Re: Anxiety/Panic Disorder [Re: deCypher]
    #8323484 - 04/24/08 03:17 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Hey Bulb,
I suffer from horrendous panic attacks, anxiety, and mild schizophrenia.
I used meth and coke for a long period of time, which has contributed to my mental state, but there are many factors in this as I'm sure there are with you.
My latest therapist prescribed a anti-psychotic and anti-anxitey meds which only made things worse and the only thing that helped was talking openly to my therapist about my experiences.
So my main hope is with Iboga/Ibogaine. From what I've read from many people who have used it, it seems to help the most with setting yourself back in order mentally, physically, and spiritually as well as answereing questions you might have about your "condition".
And like another poster replied about setting, that's what I'll be following. I'm moving near canyons and private camping areas and that's the only place I think I can feel comfortable to smoke week or eat shrooms until I can afford the Ibogaine.
If your in a safe environment I'd eat the shrooms and sometimes risks are involved, however you know yourself better than anyone else does.


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Long live the Shroomery and I'm done with it.:toast:

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Re: Anxiety/Panic Disorder *DELETED* [Re: deCypher]
    #8323491 - 04/24/08 03:19 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Anxiety/Panic Disorder [Re: mr.bixby]
    #8323731 - 04/24/08 04:27 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

i also suffer from anxiety and panic attacks due to coke and weed. i was worried that shrooming would make it worse. so i started again with low doses and gradually went back to my normal doses. i think that if i went right to my normal dose it would have surfaced in the trip. but because i was able to get used to it again from low doses, i was fine and eventually got over it. i think i was just having paranoia that it would make it worse. so i just tok it one step at a time. and now im good to go!


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