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Re: Always coming soon, but never here and now [Re: TheCow]
    #8320576 - 04/23/08 07:49 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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mycould said:
considered impossible



:discorex:




things that ARE impossible eh?  Please tell me something that you can prove IS impossible


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Re: Always coming soon, but never here and now [Re: mycould]
    #8320605 - 04/23/08 07:54 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

A ≠ A is impossible, always was impossible, and always will be impossible. :crazy2:


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Re: Always coming soon, but never here and now [Re: deCypher]
    #8320783 - 04/23/08 08:37 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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A ≠ A is impossible, always was impossible, and always will be impossible. :crazy2:





To our past and current understanding of A, yes it was and currently is impossible for A to not equal A.  But how can you prove that we wont have some sort of growth in comprehension of A that would allow A to not equal A?


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Re: Always coming soon, but never here and now [Re: mycould]
    #8320854 - 04/23/08 08:51 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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mycould said: some sort of growth in comprehension of A




Niiice terminology. That just reminded me of that quote by Bill Clinton... "it depends upon what the definition of the word 'is,' is."


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Re: Always coming soon, but never here and now [Re: Ginseng1]
    #8320929 - 04/23/08 09:09 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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Nothing is impossible.




This is one of those really dumb statements that we hear from time to time.


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Re: Always coming soon, but never here and now [Re: Rose]
    #8320930 - 04/23/08 09:09 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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Cervantes said:
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Middleman said:

We are witnessing the miraculous unfolding of the impossible in to the actual, right now.

We just can't see the forest for the trees sometimes.




Would you mind giving ONE example of the IMpossible becoming ACTual?




something from nothing, isn't that a miracle? Wahe Guru... from darkness came light. Just the fact that isness is...

yea you can't show something impossible becoming actual by virtue of semantics, but you also can't deny the astronomical unlikelihood of being, of breathing, of this all being here, of the richness of it all. Its all happening!


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Re: Always coming soon, but never here and now [Re: Noviseer]
    #8320943 - 04/23/08 09:13 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Actually we don't know where the light came from. That's like saying from a dark room came light (but of course I flipped the lightswitch)


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Re: Always coming soon, but never here and now [Re: Icelander]
    #8320962 - 04/23/08 09:17 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

When I go into a dark room all objects are bathed in the warm glow of my aura.


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Re: Always coming soon, but never here and now [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8320981 - 04/23/08 09:20 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Yes dora, right there on the flora. (courtasy FZ)


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Re: Always coming soon, but never here and now [Re: Icelander]
    #8320997 - 04/23/08 09:23 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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Actually we don't know where the light came from.




it either sprung from nothing, or its always been here, either way there's your miracle.


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Re: Always coming soon, but never here and now [Re: deCypher]
    #8321017 - 04/23/08 09:28 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Hahaha yeah but my point is that there is no way to prove that things that seem obviously impossible right now will always be impossible. Especially considering that in relation to all of humanity we are barely into this quantum mechanics breakthrough. We're in the middle of a scientific revolution. How can you know what could and could not eventually be possible.


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Re: Always coming soon, but never here and now [Re: Noviseer]
    #8321027 - 04/23/08 09:30 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Why is that a miracle? Saying everything is a miracle is the same as saying everything is mundane. It's a meaningless statement IMO.


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Re: Always coming soon, but never here and now [Re: Icelander]
    #8321030 - 04/23/08 09:30 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

What about the fauna in the sauna?


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Re: Always coming soon, but never here and now [Re: Noviseer]
    #8321089 - 04/23/08 09:40 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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You also can't deny the astronomical unlikelihood of being, of breathing, of this all being here, of the richness of it all.




And you can't deny this fact: There is a HUGE difference between the meaning of the words "unlikely" and "IMPOSSIBLE".

Come on... somebody please name something impossible that became actuality.

Middleman said it is happening all the time now... MIDDLEMAN said it... so it must be true.

Can't someone provide an ACTual example?

Oh... and LIGHT must be possible since it already ACTually exists... still nice try.


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Re: Always coming soon, but never here and now [Re: Rose]
    #8321103 - 04/23/08 09:44 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Do you see what it's like defending this place day after day.:hissyfit::monkeydance::lol:


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Re: Always coming soon, but never here and now [Re: Icelander]
    #8321116 - 04/23/08 09:45 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

It is impossible.

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Re: Always coming soon, but never here and now [Re: Rose]
    #8321123 - 04/23/08 09:48 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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    Quote:
    Ginseng1 said:
    Nothing is impossible.



This is one of those really dumb statements that we hear from time to time.



:rofl::thumbup:


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Re: Always coming soon, but never here and now [Re: Rose]
    #8321128 - 04/23/08 09:49 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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Cervantes said:
It is impossible.

:wink:




:rofl2:


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Re: Always coming soon, but never here and now [Re: Rose]
    #8321146 - 04/23/08 09:52 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

At this current period of existence that is an IMPOSSIBLE request.


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Re: Always coming soon, but never here and now [Re: Rose]
    #8321160 - 04/23/08 09:56 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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Cervantes said:
Come on... somebody please name something impossible that became actuality.

Middleman said it is happening all the time now... MIDDLEMAN said it... so it must be true.

Can't someone provide an ACTual example?

Oh... and LIGHT must be possible since it already ACTually exists... still nice try.




did you read my post?

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yea you can't show something impossible becoming actual by virtue of semantics




You're arguing something that's self evident, impossible "means" impossible, sure, but that's not gonna get us anywhere. And anyway its a side-issue, that's not what middleman meant.

And sure, you can look at the world as a miracle, or as a mundane occurrence, but that's the point! I choose to see all existence as a miracle, or at least I try, because it makes my life richer and better. Maybe I'm not getting any closer to the "truth" but I don't care, what's the truth anyway?


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